TTC after recurrent miscarriage

Yes we do and I did go a bit crazy a couple of months back but then remembered we have DS's birthday, my trip, Christmas and new year to look forward to. We'll be busy and then we'll see. I also like stats and I have quite a good feeling for stats, so I don't mind random, in theory!

A translocation can affect both so yeah we have to look at what the results will be. They are going to take family history and are a fertility specialist so if they suggest any other testing we'll probably look into it.

Carpet bombing missed a couple of days at the end because DH wasn't feeling well so I don't know if we made it or not, but did sneak one in today which is CD20 so should have covered everything important.

Hi bernard, welcome. What's Mr. Shehata and the NK thing about? Can you tell us more about it? Superovulation sounds good!

Hi all, hoping this is the right thread for me to be on! A little about me....I've had 6 miscarriages since 2013. 3 under 6 weeks, 2 at 8 weeks and an ERPC at 11 weeks. I have one son (nearly 2) who arrived miraculously after the 3rd miscarriage, so 3 more since he arrived. Currently under Mr Shehata following the complex NK cells program and half way through my first cycle of superovulation. And breathe....! Just looking for a bit of hand holding! All getting a bit much!! X

Thank you bertie. God that's awful. How do you stay calm about it? It is random. Makes so bloody sense and the lack of any reason is so frustrating and exhausting.

You've got your clinic appointment in January haven't you, will that only be about DH and his translocation? And could the translocation affect conception or just viability?

I'm so sorry you're going through this, I don't know how you keep your chin up so well. Hope the carpet bombing is going well. Have you stopped temping for now?

I've been trawling the taking charge book again as I read it so fast I wanted to go back to some of it.

desperately seeking hope despite knowing full well AF will be here tonight or tomorrow, can't seem to help myself

Fragmentation test looks to be in its infancy so not particularly useful yet although apparently though fragmentation can cause issues with natural conception it doesn't affect IVF rates of success.

I would ask for general investigative testing and see what they suggest.

It's been 14 months since our last pregnancy :( The other two happened so close together I thought that was a good sign but it just seems to be so random.

Booked a call with a nice one! Thursday lunchtime. She was helpful about my B12 levels when I was pregnant last year.

In the 9th month now since last pregnancy. I know it's not ages. But I feel a bit like I've used all my fertility up and still not got my baby

That's useful to know keepon. How are you doing at the moment?

So what do I ask/ask for?

I think a GP appointment is best Anne. It took me 10 months to get pregnant again after my second MC. I went to the GP after about 6 and the first one wouldn't refer me but was happy to do initial fertility bloods and some of the recurrent miscarriage bloods. I then went back a couple of months later and saw a different GP who referred me to the fertility clinic. They accepted the referral amd saw us. I don't know how much of a difference it made that my abnormal uterus had been picked up in EPU scans because that was the only thing looked into further at this point. The Consultant did say she would want us to be trying for a year without a pregnancy before any further tests and 2 years without before she'd consider any treatment. So the usual time frames really but I did find it helpful going to the appointment.

So definitely worth pursuing. Is there a particularly sympathetic GP at your practice?

Thanks both. Do you think just start with a call to the GP? I know I'm ovulating so what tests would they do?

I mean he's right it is very rare! But genetic issues in the man can cause miscarriage. It is more common for male issues to be the cause of infertility than miscarriage. Sperm testing is useless if you can get pregnant but it's worth having a karyotype done.

It's almost like the infertility bods go - oh well you've been pregnant, so none of this could possibly be the problem. (But why not look anyway?)

And then the RMC lot are just like nah we can't do anything until you get pregnant again.

So you get stuck - but I don't think there's any harm in having things looked at while you're waiting.

Anne, IME it is worth getting tested. It just helps to know and have answers. They wanted us to wait a year since the last pregnancy :( But if you state 2 mc plus the total amount of time/number of cycles trying they might get you in earlier.

Whether there's something they can do or not you'll still have the option to keep trying naturally, so you don't lose anything, but some issues which cause miscarriage do also cause infertility. It makes me a bit cross when they insist that it's one or the other because it can be the same cause for both, or it might even be that you have different things affecting both! Or they might not be able to find anything, but at least you'd know.

Abuse the cheapies! I hate POAS but you said it makes you feel better so I'd go for it if it helps

Sorry about your boobs. Mine are worse in the evening so could be anything. I ease my enormous bra off when I get home and stick a soft but supportive sleeping one on.

They were, yes. He was tested and everything was perfect, but they're 8 now. The issue was on her side.

I asked the doc at the time but he was sure there were no problems with either of us, not entirely sure how tbh, but because I was getting pregnant they weren't worried. He didn't diagnose me with anything and said we'd try his clexane protocol anyway. I'm now worried the drugs I have waiting are going to expire!

Good for you. No need to ever be a dick, especially around something as sensitive as babies and infertility. Glad the OP was nice. Most people are, thankfully, but as we all know, there's also some absolute wankers around.

Yep, I could have a chat with the GP and just see what they say. DH never had any tests as he has his two already and when we started with the RMC we were on a run of quick conceptions so it was all about managing to hold on to the next one, not getting it in there in the first place. I have an "open appointment" with the RMC to go back there when I get the next BFP. I could call and ask for a chat with the doc but I don't have a clue what they could do and they're about trying to save pregnancies, not help create them.

I don't really know what to ask but haven't seen much out there about recurrent miscarriage followed by it taking ages.

I know it can take a while to conceive for healthy people doing all the right things, but it's a kick in the nuts to have had no problems and 3 in such quick conceptions followed now by nothing.

My worries about having another loss are going to be overtaken by worries about never getting bloody pregnant again.

What happened Lisa?!

Hmm, you're sweet, we'll see. Loads of creamy cm. When are you testing again?

Last BFP was 1 Feb and lost it a week later at 5 weeks.

Had my Mum on the phone last night asking when I need to ask for help. There isn't anything I can do though is there? I'm healthy, managed to conceive easily in the past, nothing has changed apart from I've battered my insides with miscarriages, I'm temping and know my cycle and we're shagging like rabbits and at the right time of my cycle.

There just seems no reason it's not happening and I don't know what to do.

I'm honestly fine, not sad or freaking out, but it's bloody frustrating.

Well this looks pretty conclusive

PMT related shatteredness and boob pain after all. No af yet but it's a hell of a drop and I'm a bit crampy again. And two fucking days early.

I'm not sad but I'm pretty pissed off. Why the hell am I not getting pregnant?

Totally off topic, but Lisa I wanted to congratulate you on your response to another poster on a thread on the infertility board! She's always spouting self-righteous crap and telling people to get counselling. Really gets on my wick

Joining you in reluctant hopeful twattishness lisa.

Epic madly painful boobs. So tired I skipped Pilates. Felt dizzy and sick as a dog. Made myself eat cheese on toast and felt better. My super smell is awful too. And I've had a mega hot flush.

But then this all happened last cycle, I'm sure.

Could it be less bloody helpful how these symptoms have resulted in gorgeous bfps and bright white bfns. Bastard ttc.

Water - sorry to hear scan showed bad news.

Lisa - I'm hopeful for you, I've only had almost imaginary lines/shadows when I've been pregnant and stark white when not.