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TTC after recurrent miscarriage

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/09/2017 11:48

Hi, just wondering if anyone else was in a similar place to me and wanted to chat about it? I'm 30, TTC my first and have had three miscarriages, all early (two natural MCs at five weeks, then a MMC where a scan at 6+5 revealed development had again stopped at 5 weeks). I've had RMC tests and am just waiting on the results of that but hoping to be able to TTC again from my next period, which should come any day now. I've found throughout the whole thing (have been TTC just over a year now) that it's really helped me to chat with people in similar positions, so if anyone wants to be TTC buddies please let me know!

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keeponrunning85 · 15/11/2017 19:06

Gosh karen, you have been through it. I'm very sorry for your losses. Welcome to our little gang. I do hope you don't need that frozen embryo.

Lisa I'm glad the chat with Coventry was helpful and here's hoping for a result over 600 tomorrow.

Bertie that's exciting about the apartment!

I'm currently enjoying the joys of period cramps! But glad that things seem to be starting so soon after stopping the tablets. I was expecting a few days wait. Still currently managing to feel excited about TTC again which is good.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 15/11/2017 18:53

I'm ok, Anne, thanks. Still very anxious. Got back the first beta, which was 297 - obsessive googling reveals that's on the low side but not outside the range of normal pregnancies, so it's all about whether or not it doubles now.

How are you doing? Is fertile week coming up? And how about you, fox? I hope you're feeling ok. Is anyone coming up to testing?

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 15/11/2017 18:36

Karen I'm so sorry to hear of your losses - as Anne says, you've been through such a lot and I really hope you're able to take care and be kind to yourself at the moment.

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79Karen · 15/11/2017 18:23

Thank you Anne I suppose it’s been a really long time, we’ve just ploughed on through and definitely not ready to give up. After not conceiving after 2nd mc we were referred for tests but nothing obvious showed up so we’re classed as unexplained and referred for ivf. We’ve been really lucky with funding in our area. Just before we started our first ivf cycle it was discovered that I had a uterine polyp which I was told could have been the reasons for our troubles however after it was removed we went ahead with the ivf as we didn’t want to waste anymore time. This will be our first time ttc since it was removed, who knows?

Oh and transfer of the frozen one is likely to be sometime early next year.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/11/2017 18:15

Oh karen, you haven't half been through the mill, I'm so sorry for your losses and everything you've been through.

What was it that got you started on the IVF, not having conceived or some sort of screening? What a journey. You're welcome here, hope you find it useful.

How long do you have to wait till the transfer?

79Karen · 15/11/2017 18:14

Progesterone wise, I was on a fairly high amount this time as they do for an ivf cycle, I still bled but it wasn’t anywhere near as much as previous mc’s I was worried that I’d hardly bled but a neg hpt and positive opk must mean things have sorted themselves out

79Karen · 15/11/2017 18:09

Hello ladies may I join you? Though it’s sort of a thread that I never wanted to join (in the nicest possible way) two weeks ago today I had my third miscarriage in a row, me and Dh have been tcc for nearly 8 years now I don’t know where the time has gone. I’ve had 2 natural conceptions in 2013/14 Ending in early mc’s Started ivf this May, first cycle was terrible and bfn but second was much better and we transferred 2 5 day old embryos. I got my first bfp in over 4 years and an early scan due to concerns over it bein eptopic showed 2 little sacs. Sadly I lost both of them a few days later. We have 1 frozen embryo from that cycle but are ttc naturally until transfer.

I wish all you ladies well xx

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/11/2017 17:42

That's interesting Lisa and good to know. I was told the exact opposite by the doc at my RMC so looks like the understanding of how it works is changing.

Hope you're doing okay.

Excited for you keepon!

Sorry for your losses schnitzel, you're very welcome in our small collective Flowers

How are you feeling fox?

LisaSimpsonsbff · 15/11/2017 08:28

Hi schnitzel - I'm really sorry for your losses, and hope you find this a supportive and helpful place to chat.

Spoke to Coventry last night - one good piece of news that I thought I'd share in case anyone else takes progesterone in pregnancy in future: she categorically said that taking progesterone doesn't mean that miscarriages are more likely to be missed. They used to think that but recent studies have conclusively proved that you still bleed at the same point, as progesterone stops the uterine lining from bleeding but can't stop the pregnancy tissue itself bleeding and passing. That was a pretty big weight off my mind, as I'd been convinced that I wouldn't bleed if taking the progesterone so not bleeding meant nothing.

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keeponrunning85 · 14/11/2017 21:39

Welcome Schnitzel. I hope you feel at home here soon enough.

Sorry about the BFN fox.

Lisa, keeping my fingers crossed for a nice doubled HCG on Thursday.

I'm due to take my last oestrogen tablet tonight woohoo! We're off to Seville for a few days on Monday so I'm hoping to get any kind of bleed at the way before then and then TTC officially restarts! Also will be glad to see the back of the condoms which have been required since the op.

SchnitzelVonCrummsTum · 14/11/2017 21:11

May I de-lurk and join in? I've had 4 mc but also 3 living children. No reason for the mc. AF due at some point in the next few days (took progesterone to bring it on - my last D&C was in September). Hoping to TTC this next cycle. I have read a bit and the TTC after loss thread definitely isn't for me.

Lisa - I know we've bumped into each other a few times around the boards. Rooting for you.

Apologies for the lack of other personals, will do my best to read back and make sure I know everyone's stories properly.

BertieBotts · 14/11/2017 20:03

It can't just be me who does things like that can it? I am not religious or spiritual but just feeling like things have fitted into a plan does really help. Actually with DH breaking his foot this summer I can look back and say that would have been an actual nightmare to deal with while pregnant and with a newborn, on maternity leave etc.

My mum is a great believer in everything happens for a reason. I think I'm more that you can force things to make sense in sequence if you look hard enough. But that's okay.

Mind you DH and DS have been experiencing some strange phantom sounds at night almost as though somebody is visiting so who knows, perhaps someone who loves us really is looking out for us and wants to help us get sorted before our time.

BertieBotts · 14/11/2017 19:57

Four of us on the bench! Sorry Scary.

We have been looking at a potential new apartment to rent. Tentatively hopeful because it looks so perfect. At least it gives me something else to focus on and then maybe I can convince myself fate was just letting us find that nice place to move to before we get pg!

ScaryDuck · 14/11/2017 18:02

Hi all, I've been taking bit of a break from thinking about TTC (or trying to!) but following along. Sorry there's not better news going on for everyone, but fingers crossed for you on Thursday Lisa, that's a total rollercoaster you've been on in the last week. And sorry to hear about the BFN foxtrot

I've been quite enjoying my time off! But now AF is due next week and I'm back to scheduling sex in case we miss the next fertile window (we both work away a lot so requires serious diary coordination). And annoyingly my last cycle was much shorter than usual, so I may well end up pg over christmas anyway, despite trying to avoid.

That said, I'm the same as you Anne and Foxtrot, conceived super easily last 3 times, but it's not happening now. It makes me cringe to think how smug I was at the start. I thought I was so perfect getting pg straight after 15 years on the pill. So naive!!

On the wine already tonight after a day of pregnant chat at work, never gets any easier Sad

BertieBotts · 14/11/2017 17:59

Yes sorry Foxtrot to welcome you to the seemingly "can't even get pregnant anymore" club Hmm

I can feel AF coming on so not very likely I'll be getting a BFP this month.

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/11/2017 15:53

You might get your results from Thursday that day Lisa, fx it's super soon either way and the news you're hoping for.

I knew from my hcg test at 4 weeks it wasn't great, I was having very clear bfps but my first hcg result was 60, which they didn't say they were particularly worried about, but I know now meant it never really got off the ground. If it had doubled with the second one all would have been okay, but it didn't so I knew it was going to miscarry.

Crossing everything and saying a little prayer you have wonderful news. Thinking of you!

I totally get what you're saying about the scan, but one day at a time for now. Bloods are one phase, scan will hopefully be another.

So gutting foxtrot, I'm really sorry Sad I've been in exactly the same boat and due to the losses I did allow myself to be slightly smug about how easily I was conceiving - I don't feel too bad about it looking back as I had sod all to be smug about and was in a horrible place and trying to find anything positive! But it was something positive to hold on to
and it did help for a while, though it's now been 10 months and I'm as worried about conceiving as staying pregnant.

It's okay to be disappointed, angry, frustrated, whatever you're feeling. Have a rant Flowers

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 14/11/2017 10:03

Oh I'm so sorry foxtrot - and definitely offload away! Do you know when AF is due? Are you sure that a BFN now definitely means you're out? In any case, you're allowed to feel sad and disheartened. I'm sorry that you had a crappy weekend, too - it's horrible when a number of things at once combine to upset you. And although we all know that other people having babies doesn't mean anything for our own chances, it would take a saint not to be bothered by it sometimes!

Had first set of bloods this morning before work. They don't seem to be planning to give me the results of this one, just the two together on Friday - which I guess makes sense, as unless the first test shows I'm not pregnant at all any more (which I assume they will tell me!), I guess there's not much I can get from the number without knowing if it's going up, and at what rate?

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keeponrunning85 · 14/11/2017 08:55

Really glad you're getting some bloods done Lisa. Will you be able to get the results of the first set today? And I really hope you don't have to make use of that St Mary's appointment.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 13/11/2017 21:15

Completely randomly the hospital sent me a letter today saying that they're referring me to the St Mary's miscarriage clinic (letter sent before I told them about this pregnancy). Pretty certain this is because I complained, which is pretty bad really. But gives a new bit of hope if this one doesn't work out - at least there might be another shot at finding out what's wrong.

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MogScratch · 13/11/2017 16:28

Lisa - glad they are doing bloods this week for you. Really hoping it is good news for you. Each pregnancy is different and you are on the projestrone and asprin this time. So hopefully it won't be a repeat of before and you will get to the scan in 7 weeks with everything looking great.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 13/11/2017 16:18

(I didn't ask for a scan, to be clear, I just wanted the bloods done. That would obviously be [even more] barking mad, to ask for it and then resent it!)

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 13/11/2017 16:17

Thanks, anne - I really appreciate the support. GP spoke to EPU and said it was best that the GP's surgery do bloods, so booked in for tomorrow at 8.20 and then 9.30 on Thursday. EPU have booked me a scan, which actually really upset me (I know this is me being unreasonable!) because my immediate thought was 'but I'm never going to make it to seven weeks, so you've just given me a thing to have to awkwardly cancel and a day to feel a bit extra sad about when it rolls around'...

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AnneLovesGilbert · 13/11/2017 10:59

I think as this thread is in conception and we're all trying to make and keep babies, BFPs are exactly what we're after and they make me feel positive, happy, and hopeful.

I hope you've spoken to the doc Lisa and have a plan, also that work goes quickly and easily for you today. Keep us posted.