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TTC After MC 12: Hopeful Twats and Emotional Wrecks welcome!

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BertieBotts · 20/07/2017 23:09

Come one, come all, new and old, no-one wants to be here, but at least we're glad we've got each other :) Flowers

Hope your stay here is short.

Now, some BFPs if you please and BFNs for those who are waiting for them too!

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AnneLovesGilbert · 07/08/2017 23:19

I'm on my second month of temping. Grabbed a bbt thermometer off Amazon, use free FF app and was good to go. I also read Taking charge of your fertility which I found very informative and super easy to read. But it's basically temping and charting cm, and I've been doing the latter for a while and find it easy.

There are some experts on here who've really helped me. I don't use opks as I have clear ov symptoms but temping is a nice way to conform ov has happened. Well, fx I get that in the morning!

ThoughtAboutThisTooMuch · 07/08/2017 22:52

isthis I know what you mean about ISWTE; was glad I found it cause it felt like I was doing something but after 2 months of it, I'm finding it tedious and it's making me feel guilty every time I take a bloody receipt! Plus it takes me hours trying to figure out what I should have for lunch; shop workers think I'm a weirdo!

Going to start using OPK's for the first time this cycle (was going to use last time but thought I was supposed to use when I guessed I was ovulating.will actually read the instructions this time!!) A lot of people talk about temping as well though. Is this something people recommend or should I start with OPK first? Are there any 'beginners temping' links that people could recommend? I use glow to track my cycle instead of FF that I see a lot of people use though so maybe in need to switch as well?Thanks!

Hulaballoo · 07/08/2017 21:30

Just a quick question... After reading about folate/folic acid.... Is 1000mcg folate ok to get out is 400mcg better? Not sure which one to go for? 😳

dudemeister76 · 07/08/2017 20:58

Sorry for your losses isthis and em (flowers). I am definitely drier after miscarriage although I did get a couple of days of EWCM before i ovulated (according to my temperature).
Im feeling quite annoyed with myself that i totally missed the ovulation boat as i thought id ovulated CD12 after mc as i had blatant ovary pain. It seems i was wrong though and now I'm 8DPO and currently hoping i don't have a short luteal phase! I have never in my 40 years paid much attention to my cycle until now so i have no idea how long it usually is. I think I'm now at the point where i will dance a jig when AF finally gets here (after 10DPO please) Just want to feel like my womb is working again if you know what i mean.
Ive got conceive plus. Have yet to try it out. I have also been googling my life away for conceiving tips. I have joked about moon cups before but like someone said on here a while ago 'I'm willing to chuck the kitchen sink at this' and ill try anything that might help. At the risk of getting personal lol, has anyone tried this method of keeping sperm close to cervix after sex? or am i being ridiculously desperate?

isthismummy · 07/08/2017 20:41

Hi MsJuniper and StepAwayFromGoogle I've used both pre seed and conceive plus in the past. Just invested in some yes baby which is 100% organic. My reflexologist also swears it got her pregnant after 2 years ttc. I feel everything is definitely drier still thoughSad

My Hysteroscopy included implantation cuts so I was told to go for it asap on the ttc. I watched a video after (such a special popcorn monentHmm) and they literally cut a space out of what was basically all dead scar tissue. Consultant said there was nothing for an embryo to implant into!

Oh God, ISWTE!!! I have a real love/hate relationship with that book. I still blame it for my crushing sense of guilt every time I can't afford to buy everything organic. I also hold it responsible for me spending the equivalent of the national debt on ubiquinol, dhea etcGrin

StepAwayFromGoogle · 07/08/2017 20:23

Welcome isthis, sorry for your loss and sorry you have to be here. I was a bit drier I think but everything has been all over the place post miscarriage. Not sure my body has known which way is up some months.

I too use pre-seed, MsJuniper. A word to the uninitiated, though, if you do decide to try it; use about a quarter of the recommended amount. Otherwise you will end up swimming around in it. And that is most definitely not sexy.

MsJuniper · 07/08/2017 19:55

Hi isthis sorry you find yourself here; that must have been very tough with the timing.

We always use pre-seed (anyone else?) as it's supposed to be helpful so I'm not sure really whether I am drier overall.

We've just been talking about the book It Starts With The Egg which you might find useful. Did they say to start trying again straight away after the hysteroscopy? I thought I'd read that it might act in a similar way to a scratch in assisting implantation.

isthismummy · 07/08/2017 19:48

Hi everyone, can I join? I miscarried in June at five weeks (two days after my wedding for extra joy) We'd been ttc for 14 months and I'd actually been told I'd need egg donation as I have very low egg reserves even for my (ancient) age of 38.

I had a Hysteroscopy at a private clinic last month which removed a uterine septum and shed loads of dead scar tissue. Now we're back ttc. I'm getting ovulation pains at moment, but no ewcm. Odd question, but did anyone else find things drier post miscarriage? It's definitely an issue when dtd all of a suddenConfused Not sure if I should be worried?

BertieBotts · 07/08/2017 19:45

DS is away this week so yes I'd say normal service has resumed. Unsure if I've ovulated yet, so that's probably a good thing!

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 07/08/2017 19:40

Hi ladies - thanks for all your support, appointment went fine. It was quite painful but not for long. Thank you for the parking tip, step - it was indeed rammed!

MsJuniper · 07/08/2017 19:19

Anne I know exactly what you mean about the action films, I have had similar times when I've had to stay away from anything emotional.

Apparently folic acid is easier to absorb in its synthetic form but I always feel like there are so many options I'm sure I've chosen the wrong one! I've decided to get the solgar folic acid though for now.

StepAwayFromGoogle · 07/08/2017 18:31

Ekphrasis, I take folic acid. Should I be taking folate? furiously starts googling.

Em, take it easy and look after yourself. I'd get signed off until you feel a bit better and just curl up on the sofa with endless cups of tea. It takes as long as it takes to recover. I was completely bereft after my third and took 6 weeks off. Really did me the world of good.

Ana, I was only 6 weeks when I lost two of mine and 4 weeks with the other one. Still broke my heart. I don't think there is a time limit on grief so just allow yourself to feel how you feel.

I saw one of my NCT mummy friends this afternoon who has a two month old. Have to say it was so much easier than seeing her when she had a bump and I was insanely jealous. DD spent the afternoon whacking all the other beautifully-behaved toddlers...

Bring on all the BFPs, ladies. I need to do my special dance again Grin

Lifeofpies · 07/08/2017 18:07

Ah em glad you came home. Agree you shouldn't go in if you don't absolutely have to.

Thanks for the folic acid/folate thoughts, and article Ekphrasis. Very interesting. I've got 'it started with the egg' coming, so will wait to read before starting supplements.

AnneLovesGilbert · 07/08/2017 16:43

Oh and Bertie, your poor poor trouper of a DH with his blue balls. Bless him! I genuinely didn't know it was a thing, and he must have made it worse by trying to be a gentleman about your side of things Grin

Hope you get the results soon and normal service has resumed Smile

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AnneLovesGilbert · 07/08/2017 14:40

Thank you so much for looking Bertie and Lisa, really appreciate it. Gave myself such a freak out this morning, kicking myself for forgetting my thermometer and feeling all wonky and faulty again!

I'll update on what happens tomorrow! I've had such faith in the symptoms I can see/feel and I'm clearly way way overly reliant on temping to back it up. And breathe.......

Not creepy Lisa, thanks! I spent years in a shit and eventually completely sexless marriage, making up for lost time with obliging second husband Grin

Sorry it didn't go well em, hunker down and have a nap if you can or watch some mindless telly. I know I've said this before but for the time ever during and after my MMC I got a real taste for incredibly stupid loud shoots action films. Anything with feelings set me off and I got so bored and distracted. I got well acquainted with Jason Statham. The guy is fool but his films are very loud and easy to follow! I also ate biscuits. I never eat biscuits but for some reason it helped.

Can you get signed off for the rest of the week? Nothing, nothing, is more important than building your strength back up and taking it easy. Work will cope.

I can so relate to what a lot of you were saying the other day about a baby and even a pregnancy sometimes seeming so far off. For the first time in ages I found myself asking DH about baby names and what we'd do about childcare when we have one. I've been looking at baby booties. It doesn't seem anymore likely it's going to happen soon but maybe I'm defrosting and remembering what we're trying to do, outside of the TTC routine, pills, dates, symptom spotting and all that crap.

MsJuniper · 07/08/2017 13:54

Just been looking on Amazon and they do have a 5mg option but I'm a bit scared to take it without doctors' advice particularly as I didn't think that level was available without prescription. I might get some of the Solgar ones and take a couple extra each day.

Feels like this whole thing is a chemistry experiment but with so many variables it's impossible to know whether it's better to add something into the mix or not.

Folic Acid, Bio-Tech 5mg, 100 capsules, tiny soft and easy to swallow https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CC4CZ0A/ref=cmswwrcppapiLhgIzbEW1SDPVV__

Solgar 400g Folacin Folic Acid Tablets - 100 Tablets https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002PN9V3C/ref=cmm_swrrcpapii_wigIzb2TPPB85

LisaSimpsonsbff · 07/08/2017 13:42

Oh, em, I'm so sorry but I'm glad you left rather than trying to keep going if it was just too hard.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 07/08/2017 13:41

Anne I think it'll probably give you crosshairs tomorrow if your temperature is similar to today's. It looks like you did ovulate on day 13 and that it just hasn't been elevated for long enough to confirm yet.

Impressive effort on the BD-ing, by the way! (She said, incredibly creepily)

emwithme · 07/08/2017 13:34

Work did not go well. Far too many tears for my liking, so I'm back at home with a cat and a cuppa. Ho hum.

yellowfrontdoor · 07/08/2017 13:18

Em hope all is going well at work. Flowers

I'm on the prescribed folic acid too. My GP didn't go into why but said something vague about blood flow, is it shown to reduce the chance of mc?

BertieBotts · 07/08/2017 13:18

Anne sorry am on mobile but it does look like there was a rise? Maybe ff is waiting for another day or two to confirm.

I used to try and compare symptoms but have given up on that now as both times they were completely different.

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Ekphrasis · 07/08/2017 13:02

Reading again it seems to say the 400 plus healthy diet should be enough. I can't remember the reasoning in it starts with the egg (I'm away so it's not to hand).

Ekphrasis · 07/08/2017 13:00

I wasn't sure mrs j. I sometimes panic as with ds all I had was pregnacare! I worry it's all too much extra unneeded stuff. Does it say up to bpf? In men it seemed to help DNA etc.

I think I'll try the supplement you mentioned next cycle.

MsJuniper · 07/08/2017 11:48

That's an interesting article as it talks more about taking extra folic acid/folate pre-pg. I took something called MyOva which had high dose myo inositol plus 200mcg folate on top of the usual 400mcg folic acid in the pregnacare, but I stopped the first one once I got my BFP as I wasn't sure about the myo inositol. Maybe I should get another folic acid supplement on the go.

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