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Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!

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harrietm87 · 18/07/2017 11:42

Hi all, thought I'd get the ball rolling on the new thread.

Welcome all with immune/natural killer cell issues.

It's been a while since a new thread so thought it might be helpful if we all added our stats:

I'm harriet, age 30, TTC#1.
3 mcs (2 at 5 weeks, 1 mmc at 9 weeks).
Hypothyroid and high NK cells.
Cycle 2 on pred!

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harrietm87 · 02/08/2017 21:33

Totally agree with justla on mr s's scan manner. At the end of my follicle scan he practically whipped it out! Any time I've had internal scans before it's all been very gentle! Not painful in any way obvs, just a surprise!

poppy everything sounds great! I downloaded FF this time but found it pretty un-user friendly - think I needed to persevere.

Cramps continue but spotting is still very light. Sorry for TMI but it's literally just a couple of spots on a liner. The consistency seems to be getting drier as well and it is very brown rather than red, so I'm so so hoping it will be ok. I've been googling obsessively all day and I think it's really 50:50.

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PoppyJ1 · 02/08/2017 20:43

Fingers crossed but far, far away from certain.

LunaB, it will be, we are picking up newbies all the time. And once we all get BFPs we have many months of pregnancy angst to support each other through! 😂

I am comforted by those going before me, I must say ❤️

LunaB · 02/08/2017 20:32

🤞🤞🤞 more babies - this group won't be TTC for much longer ❤️

PoppyJ1 · 02/08/2017 20:24

Haha, great question, LunaB! First I had nothing then it gave me 8 points out of 100 up until yesterday, then jumped to 16 this morning and now it's down at 15 but not sure why! If it keeps increasing at this rate I will be happy because if it gets to 70-80 by test day you are almost twice as likely to be pregnant than not...or something, I'm not very good on statistics.

By the way, all, I wondered if you might be interested in a distracting little survey. It's the second What Women Want Survey, 20 years after the first. I've said I want a number of things including better maternity care, more research into recurrent miscarriage and a breaking down of the taboo around miscarriage. Should have said one of the worst things about it is feeling like you can't take time off for that reason because then you're employer knows you intend to take maternity leave in the not so distant future.

Anyway, here it is if anyone is interested!

www.thisiswhatwomenwant.org

LunaB · 02/08/2017 19:47

Wow poppy what % is the app showing!?

PoppyJ1 · 02/08/2017 18:11

JustLa, that's really interesting about the scan dating. Gosh I don't think I could handle an abrupt manner, I'm too fragile about all this stuff! I love UCLH endocrinology, particularly Professor Conway. They are so kind and soothing.

Sorry to hear you're having an uncomfortable time! Definitely sounds pregnancy related and I suppose pregnancy symptoms feel reassuring even when they're gross, eh?! Also just bought a pack of Fruit n Fibre in an African supermarket. Tasty Grin

I'm 6dpo now and still symptom spotting and amateurishly temping. I'm using Fertility Friend which logs it all and gives you a daily analysis complete with statistical likelihood of pregnancy and reminders not to test too early! It helps having it all organised in one place cos it limits the mindless Googling! I still have mild cramps that are not AF like and briefly a sharp but mild pulsing pain and a bit of stitch like pain. Had loads of creamy cm yesterday which isn't really normal for me. Constipated, tingly boobs and pimples. So I'm quite pleased with the symptoms but also very aware it could be coincidental!

LunaB · 02/08/2017 18:04

Oh god I hate being proded, especially by male doctors😱😱 oh well... another hideous thing to absorb now and work through with a therapist in my 90s... 🥃😝

JustLa · 02/08/2017 17:57

Lol Luna, he does the scan himself and is very quick to tell you how it's going which I appreciate. He can be very matter of fact and blunt, yes.
I think he does the scans so he can keep track of the pregnancy personally. He's not keen to comment on scans from elsewhere as he has stated to me 'he's a very busy man' ... sometimes I worry he's a bit too busy to focus for very long on my personal case but that could just be my preggy emo mind 🙄 X

JustLa · 02/08/2017 17:52

Seeking, I've also noticed a difference between Mr S scans and NHS- NHS measure me a comfortable 3 days ahead of my prediction and Mr S measures me at bang on my gestation.
What did Mr S say in terms of the success chances? And when is your next scan booked for? You could get a sneaky NHS one just for a second look if it would make you feel better x

Hey dear Poppy, I was up 3 times in the night with cramps, but pretty sure it was preggy bowel issues. Launched a huge fibre assault on my body today and seemed to have sorted things out, lol. Part of me keeps trying to go into catastrophist mode, I'm attempting to keep that demon at bay!
How are you? Has your symptom spotting been driving you nuts or are you feeling ok? Are you 7dpo now?
Xx

LunaB · 02/08/2017 17:23

Signs seem positive harriet!!

Why on earth is DrS getting involved in the scans? He's not a sonographer and shouldn't be trying to interest!! Hhhmmmm ignore him and go by NHS -seeking!

God does he actually perform the scan himself too?? 😱😱😱

Tee4me · 02/08/2017 17:13

Harriet everything crossed for you. Such a nerve wracking time, although brown spotting sounds like old blood, probably from implantation. Hope all goes well with infusion tomorrow.
Seeking urgh I'm sorry you weren't reassured. So there could be a 6 day discrepancy here... positive opk could easily be 2 days in advance of ovulation, then late implantation as Drttc suggested? FX for you... how does Dr S respond to these types of concerns? I've heard he can be very abrupt. So far I've found that he's not especially detailed and often in a rush. I was hoping that once pregnant they wrap you up in cotton wool a bit?!

PoppyJ1 · 02/08/2017 17:13

Seeking it really sounds like the two machines are giving different readings. I've had a gynae tell me this often happens, measurements can vary by 1mm or so even on the same machine, she said and more so if different machines are used. The fact that you progressed from one worrying scan to a heartbeat scan shows that the baby is still developing. I would put money on Dr S's scan machine being stricter.

Harriet, sounds like the spotting is already subsiding if it's only tinged. At least you know it's different to what happened previously. Glad the clinic said it's fine, I hope that reassured you!

JustLa, how are you doing, love?

harrietm87 · 02/08/2017 16:20

Oh shit seeking how annoying. Guess it's another watch and wait situation but I think you have every reason to be hopeful - you've seen a heartbeat! MC rates go way way down from here don't they? What's your next step from here - do you have another scan soon? Did Mr S offer any advice?

I had a teeny bit more spotting - almost like brown-tinged CM - and only when I wiped earlier. Cramping is ongoing. I've never had this before with any of my mcs and no idea what's happening. Clinic said it was probably fine and to come in tomorrow for my intralipids. Though they would say that as I'm about to give them £400 or whatever it is!

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Drttc · 02/08/2017 15:51

Also I've had major discrepancy in opinion between Dr S and other private scans when it came to the size of the SCH I had. They were convinced he was misunderstanding the scan he made and stood by their interpretation.

Drttc · 02/08/2017 15:49

Seeking could it have been late implantation? I know someone that happened to. She did Ivf so she was 100% certain of her dates and so was very worried. But it turned out it was just a bit of slower start to the pregnancy...

Seekingmiracles · 02/08/2017 15:23

Sorry you're worry Harriet. Spotting can go either way but it doesn't necessarily mean bad news. So just take it one day at a time xx

Seekingmiracles · 02/08/2017 15:22

Arghhh the drama continues...
Just had my scan with MrS. He puts the pregnancy at 6+2!! He said the NHS must have measured wrong yesterday because at a push he could make it 6+3. There's no way that I can only be 6+3. By my dates I thought I should be 7+2. There's NO WAY I had a positive opk and then ovulated a WEEK later. We didn't have sex then any way.
So now I'm convinced that baby isn't growing properly and that it's going to end badly after all. I'm so pissed off

JustLa · 02/08/2017 14:58

Hope symptoms have settled and you're holding up ok Harriett xx

PoppyJ1 · 02/08/2017 10:27

Tryingno1, congratulations! How lovely and exciting. Can't believe you're managing to keep the suspense about the gender! You must have incredible, zen willpower!

Seeking that is totally stupid from the midwives. I've found they either go beyond expectations or dramatically fall short! Totally understand why you wanted to hold back.

Harriet, feeling for you, any kind of spotting is such a horrible after what we've been through. It's that thing where we know spotting is normal but fear what it might lead to. And if spotting is normal that means you're most likely to be fine. Brown is good cos it's old, which means it's unlikely to progress to anything else. Every time I've had bleeding that went wrong, it was pink then very quickly turned to red. I know none of this is getting to help calm you down but it's worth saying anyway. Lots of love and strong sticky vibes to you Hun.

sunnyday01 · 02/08/2017 10:03

trying, its so lovely to see you back on here and now so close too. I know it probably still feels a long way off though. When pregnant the first time it literally felt like years rather than 40 weeks! I had an emergency c-section first time round (not a true emergency - my waters had been broken more than 24 hours and wasn't progressing so they thought it was best), this time I am electing to have another c-section. Its not an easy option, but I feel its the best and the safest for me.

JustLa · 02/08/2017 10:03

I understand your thinking that it could go either way Harriett, it's one of those things that could be a sign but equally could be just normal random pregnancy symptoms.
Fingers crossed for the latter.
Good idea to stay at home and rest up, rub your belly and watch day time TV.
Thinking of you, I know how stressful it is xx

harrietm87 · 02/08/2017 09:25

Thanks guys, I know it could go either way and just have to wait and see. The cramps are quite painful- probably as strong as AF ones but they feel different - a bit higher up. I've had cramping with all my pregnancies (inc the mmc where I never bled), but never had spotting before. My natural mcs were red blood from the start. I've taken the day off work and just going to try sleep as much as I can. Will ring the clinic when it opens.

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LunaB · 02/08/2017 09:04

Seeking was a nightmare trying to move forward and feel like a normal pregnancy lady! But we are not all 'normal' and some of us do need extra understanding and care... I hope the midwife sorts ASAP

LunaB · 02/08/2017 08:58

Harriet thinking of you hun, keep positive and download all your worries in here until you feel more secure... it's so common to have bleeding/spotting/pain - I did with my DS, so much pain I thought I had an ectopic! It's awful there arent any clear signs a pregnancy is going well or wrong... I understand your worry 😰💪💪💪💪

Drttc · 02/08/2017 08:53

Also I agree that mild cramping for several weeks is absolutely normal as things get set up for baby in there. It's hard to get accustomed to as we see cramping as the enemy.

Seeking- argh!!! This is why I have a negative view of a lot of the staff/midwives I've encountered. They can really make you feel as though your part of the masses and could care less about specialized care. I know this doesn't apply to everyone but I've come across too many of them since starting this journey! I'm sorry you have to deal with it during this time.

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