Help protect children from gaming harms.

Take our survey

Please or to access all these features

Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!

960 replies

harrietm87 · 18/07/2017 11:42

Hi all, thought I'd get the ball rolling on the new thread.

Welcome all with immune/natural killer cell issues.

It's been a while since a new thread so thought it might be helpful if we all added our stats:

I'm harriet, age 30, TTC#1.
3 mcs (2 at 5 weeks, 1 mmc at 9 weeks).
Hypothyroid and high NK cells.
Cycle 2 on pred!

OP posts:
Thread gallery
14
Drttc · 03/08/2017 16:37

Harriet- glad your intralipids went well and you feel reassured! Lovely line progression on the FRER's. Now we need to buckle down and continue waiting lol... My least favorite part of the process! I don't really have any symptoms except for very light cramping- which I would expect at this stage. With DS I didn't feel pregnant at all until closer to 6 weeks, so I'm okay without symptoms atm.

Poppy- fingers crossed for you!

PoppyJ1 · 03/08/2017 15:06

Just logged in to check on you, Harriet, what a relief! It sounded ok anyway but the expert opinion is a welcome confirmation! Congrats and roll on 18 days :)

LunaB · 03/08/2017 15:05

Interesting - even though we moan about it sometimes, you can't put a price on a little reassurance... so I hope you've gained a bit more calm in the general storm that is constant worry!

harrietm87 · 03/08/2017 14:49

Yes could have been luna, or could just have been some old blood from last cycle. Mr S will reassess whether I should start the aspirin again when I go for my scan.

I'm still pretty nervous tbh, but going to try to just take each day at a time.

OP posts:
LunaB · 03/08/2017 14:44

Wonderful relief harriet - we are all feeling better now! So the aspirin might be causing the spotting?

harrietm87 · 03/08/2017 14:36

Intralipids went well! It was totally fine. And they were so reassuring about the spotting. I've been told to stop the aspirin and double up on the cyclogest (as you thought justla). Also reassured that the pred does indeed mask symptoms including nausea and sore boobs.

So I guess there's nothing to do now but wait until my scan. It's had to be moved to the day DH flies out so hopefully he can still make it. 18 days to wait!

Hope you're all well.

OP posts:
PoppyJ1 · 03/08/2017 11:53

Thanks, JustLa, that's so sweet! And yeah I should drink more water, I always forget to.

Love you list of things NOT to worry about. We take as many of those as we can get!

JustLa · 03/08/2017 09:52

Poppy, good to hear your score is raising nicely 😊 I would drink plenty of water as you could be dehydrated, especially with the warmer weather and all the travelling which would cause a back log! I've got you in my phone diary to test on Sunday 😂😂😂 just FYI

Harriet, I came off pred for a few days (thinking I wasn't preg) and that's when my boobs got swollen and hot, the pred took it away again and I've had the exact same boob symptoms as you since back on it! Big darker nips, but boobs not very swollen, just a bit tender when pressed (like AF, nothing more) so the pred def masks the boob symptoms.
I think it may be early for nausea? Mine started at probably 6-7 weeks and came in the afternoon/evening, not morning. Had a very sickly evening yesterday, but nothing the day before so don't feel worried if sickness comes and goes from day to day 👍🏻 Pred also masks that, they actually use it on ladies with severe morning sickness to ease nausea, so don't rely on that symptom either.
I've had lots of stretching aches, if I get up too quickly or walk too far I ache from my waist going into pelvis over my ovary area.
Also, the feeling of pressure on cervix is scary but quite natural so don't worry about that either 😊 (just a few more things NOT to worry about lol)

Xx

PoppyJ1 · 03/08/2017 09:47

Yes Harriet, still away, back on Tuesday. Monday is test day and I will be searching for decent tests over the weekend. DP heads back up to an industrial site on Monday and I fly out that night, so I would like to test and have the chance to tell him in person if it's positive!

Good news about spotting and cramping subsiding and glad you're feeling more positive. Do update us after the clinic. And yes, no more testing! 😂

LunaB · 03/08/2017 09:33

Boom 👊 I'm on it!

harrietm87 · 03/08/2017 09:32

Oh and the double pack in boots has one free in it atm, so 3 for 2!

OP posts:
harrietm87 · 03/08/2017 09:32

Yep First Response Early Result (I think) - they are the most sensitive/reliable.

OP posts:
LunaB · 03/08/2017 09:31

Good news you're feeling better harriet!!

What's FRERs - a type of test? First Resoonse?

harrietm87 · 03/08/2017 09:18

Thanks iggi for dropping in with happy news - it really does give me hope. I'm so grateful for this thread - thank you all for being here!

luna you really make me laugh - loved your moonfaces and poo chat!

seeking I have so been there with the if it's going to end, let it end now. I'm there right now! I have so much hope for you though. I agree with justla - is there any chance you could get another NHS scan in a week or so? Or even pay for one at one of those private places like ultrasound direct (much cheaper than mr s)?

justla I'm with you with the cramping fear too, but you're doing so well. Have you had any pregnancy symptoms like nausea/sore boobs? I'm wondering whether the pred really does mask it or whether I have something else to worry about! I'm feeling really exhausted and my boobs (and esp) nipples are massive, but not tender at all.

drttc I think I'm 4+1 today going from ovulation, so we're pretty much exactly the same stage. That's great news on the clearblue. I'm always afraid of them but may give it a go depending how today goes. I did FRERs every day from 10-14dpo (yesterday, pic attached) though so should maybe step away from the pee sticks now!

I'm on my way to the clinic now. Feeling bit more positive as spotting and cramping seem to have stopped. They didn't suggest extra cyclogest yesterday but I will ask about it today. I suspect I have low progesterone anyway so could be a good idea.

poppy so nearly ready to test! Are you still away? Have you got a frer with you??

Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!
OP posts:
PoppyJ1 · 03/08/2017 09:12

Hi all,

Welcome back Iggi and thanks for you encouraging words. Congratulations on your DS!

JustLa, thanks also for the encouragement. I really feel for you, it is very scary when that part of you doesn't work properly, especially when pregnant. And I know you are probably conscious of the kind of meds you're taking for it. I usually try coffee but as I don't drink much caffeine when pregnant I would in those circumstances have a decaf or chai latte!

Thanks Harriet, seems you're past Fertility Friend this time, but they do have a Pregnancy Monitor! I use FF on my iPad, not sure what it would be like on a phone or laptop. I agree with JustLa, I think you'd know by now if something was wrong. Fingers crossed the brown spotting stops soon, so you can relax.

Thanks for all the tips on constipation, Luna! Sounds like you had an awful time after the birth. Amazing how more isn't done for women in this position! I had no idea about this until I got pregnant previously.

I am still constipated and we went for an Indian last night. So this is really weird! I'm taking it as a good sign though and when I entered that and tender breasts into FF today, my score went up another 8 points 😂 I get my luteal phase progesterone test results tomorrow so will know whether my level is healthy.

DrTTC, good that you have a scan date at which you will surely get a proper update. Remember not to do the weeks indicator without first urine of the day!

JustLa · 03/08/2017 08:55

Seeking, I've had the exact same train of thought as you 'if it's going to end, let it happen sooner than later' ... It's so cruel that we have to think like that, I really feel for you being back in a limbo-ish state. We all think the worst (due to our histories) when something is a little off, but this sounds like it could be totally fine.
Would an NHS scan in 1 week make you feel better? I know I couldn't wait, 2 weeks seems a long time but it may work better for you.

Ugh, I wish someone could just pop us to sleep in an incubator and wake us up in 6-7 months!

Luna thanks for the tips. It's the cramping that's really worrying me now. I used to sometimes get it before I was preg, it's the same now but I'm so scared it will make my uterus contract 😫 Hope it goes away soon.

For those that have had their babies after MC's, were you able to relax a little more at any stage? Does it gradually get a little easier mentally or was there a check point that suddenly made you feel better? I can handle the truth lol

Love that we have people in here at all stages, to ask ❤️

Drttc, great to hear the test results are progressing. A long wait for you too but fingers crossed it will be well worth the wait. i wouldn't be able to resist testing either, di whatever gets you through.

Harriett, how are you doing today, emotionally and physically?

Hope everyone else is ok

Xxx

Drttc · 03/08/2017 08:43

Hi Iggi! Lovely to hear from you. We've got quite a few pred success stories here trying for/pregnant with number 2. It's such a great community!

Harriet- sounds like things are going well now. I know the wait is agonizing. Fingers crossed for you x

Seeking- I've always thought limbo is the toughest place to be. Though it sounds like the general belief is that your scans are good! It'll be a long two weeks so it may be a great time for a project/distraction!

Luna- it's really not that bad with the internal scans. I also appreciate a more direct attitude with less anticipation.

I'm just here in what feels like the 2 week wait (4-6weeks). I'm 4wks+2 today with a scan booked for next Saturday (5wks+4). No real indication as to what's going on. On CD28 a clear blue digital read 2-3 weeks. Which doesn't really mean much but at least it's going up! Think I'll test again in a few days to see if I get a 3+ weeks. Naughty game I know!

LunaB · 03/08/2017 06:40

Drttc any news on your doc visit? How it all going so far?

LunaB · 03/08/2017 06:39

Thanks girls, I'm being stupid - bring on Elvis 🕺

Just & poppy - I had the most awful constipation with my DS and was literally full of shit - could barely move! GP prescribed Fybogel - a powdered fibre supplement, and Laxido, a stool softener. Both are safe and used in pregnancy (but do check with the clinic of course). What ever you do do NOT get the liquid version of Laxido - only the sachet/powder version. The liquid will make you fart all day - literally!! It was such a relief, pardon my pun, when I went for a lovely normal easy poo!! Took them throughout pregnancy from 8 weeks and after - as i had looooooads of stitches so the thought of pooing was horrifying!

seeking babes I'm really sorry that you keep getting hit by these waves of uncertainty- I'm sure everything is fine and you will have this baby in your arms next year, I know it doesn't feel like it... chin up girl 😘

harriet what time are you at the clinic today? Let us know what they say re upping the meds ❤️

Seekingmiracles · 02/08/2017 22:38

I've never minded the internal scans... I've had SOOOO many! And his manner doesn't bother me, he's quick and very to the point but I'm very much no nonsense myself. He's also very quick to tell you the good news when he sees it! Felt like I was waiting ages for the NHS sonographer yesterday!
BTW scans with DrS are internal until 10 weeks, unless you're a bit larger, when it could be 12 weeks before he does a tummy scan! He just likes to keep an eye on the progress and the nurse is there at all times too. It's really not that bad Luna.

He said he's not too worried, especially as my cycles have been a bit whack, but I didn't mention the lack of sex around any other time of the month except when I had the positive opk. He said the heart rate was good and not to automatically assume the worst. But that's hard. Will be scanned again in two weeks, by his colleague as he's on holiday... I hate being left with the unknown. I'm a very pragmatic person, if things are going to go pear shaped I wish they'd hurry up and do so. I feel like I'm waiting for the inevitable Sad

Harriet, I had a lot of brown discharge around AF and cramps, to the point that I was convinced I was going to come on. It then changed to a beige coloured creamy cm, then eventually nothing. That's when I tested. I'd def ask about upping your cyclogest dose.

JustLa · 02/08/2017 22:14

Oh Harriet did they up your cyclogest? May have been just for me as I'm on blood thinners
X

JustLa · 02/08/2017 22:12

Poppy it all sounds quite promising, I'd say lady lucky may be with you, especially if you found fruit n fibre in Africa, it's gotta be a sign! I'll take a look at that survey, it sounds interesting thanks 😊 I think pred and pregnancy relax muscles at this stage and I have iron in my pregnacare multivit so as a result I'm having real issues. I have to write that it's shitty and a pain in the arse... because I'm struggling to find words that don't create a pun 🙈 It's actually quite a nasty issue for us that are particularly worried as there is pain and strain involved which freaks me out!

It's honestly not bad at all Luna, please don't worry. You've got a sheet over your bits and there is a nurse in there. It honestly reminds me of a vegas 'little wedding chapel' type thing, every time I go 😂 You get undressed with nurse and hubby, get ready and await Elvis's arrival. Once he comes in, he performs an emotional (Emo for me- not really for him) and dynamic whirlwind ceremony with visuals and audio and you're left in the room to get dressed. Honestly it's fine, I'm sensitive below and it hasn't hurt me. Btw, I thought scans were up the cha-cha until around 10-12 weeks?

Harriet, I'm glad it's all slowed down. No red seems like a very positive thing, especially this early when I would expect it to be more sudden (that's just my logic, no medical evidence to back that up).
You'll be able to have a good chat about it with Mr S's crew when you go for intralipids :) Am thinking of you and looking forward to things hopefully stabilising for you soon 🤞🏻

Iggy, how lovely of you to pop up and share your supportive words with us all. Congrats on your boy and thank you 😊 It gave me fuzzy feelings

Xx

LunaB · 02/08/2017 21:47

Awww that's so sweet, and funny Iggi999

Harriet it's all really sounding so hopeful! Look forward to hearing about how your drip goes tomorrow!

I'm not happy with the idea of some random doc whipping his anything near me! Is there a nurse in the room too? I might miss that appointment and go for the 8 week belly scan... if I get there! 😱

Iggi999 · 02/08/2017 21:42

(I can still remember the unexpectedly speedy internal scan!)

Iggi999 · 02/08/2017 21:41

Hello, this thread popped up on my Active convos and it is so nice to see it still going, and so many people getting help to have their longed-for babies. I was on the first (and many subsequent!) pred threads and have a 5 year old Shehata-boy after four mcs and a high NKC diagnosis. Can I wish you all the best of luck at whatever stage you're at, and don't give up.
Flowers

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.