Temp Buds 5

CityAngel - ° CD2 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD4 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD5 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD7 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - ° CD8 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD7 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD13 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD14 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD17 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? 36.3° CD21 4dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - 36.8° CD23 5DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.19° CD29 13DPO LP12 (8th cycle)

I was a bit depressed this morning - we got DH's 2nd sperm test results back - same fairly poor results. I thought I had posted a particularly self-absorbed and gloomy tale and was coming back to apologise. Must not have pressed the correct button, which is all for the best as I feel better already (the healing power of pastries).

I have decided to stop taking my temp for a few weeks - won't make any difference for the rest of this cycle and next cycle I will be on holiday when I ovulate and am not taking a thermometer away with me.

Will still be keeping an eye on everyone else - need to get my chart fix somewhere!

Beansprout - so sad about your news. Glad to see you back on the horse so quickly.

Ready - you have such clear and reliable charts that it is hard to doubt AF is on her way. Should also mean that everything is working well for you - you just need to work those odds. I'm sure it will happen for you soon.

CityAngel - ° CD2 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD4 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD5 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD7 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - ° CD8 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD7 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD13 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD14 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD17 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? 36.3° CD21 4dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD23 5DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.19° CD29 13DPO LP12 (8th cycle)

Hey ladies hope you all had a good weekend. Although it?s Monday and I feel knackered as usual, it was quite a relaxing and long-seeming weekend makes a nice change! How are you all?

Hello Fettleandmini ? 18 weeks, wow! I really hope that it?s a really easy pregnancy and passes without incident.

Hi Minxi hope you feel much better on the clomid this cycle and that it gives you the desired effect it is high time we had lots of BFPs, I agree! I forgot to temp in the week too, how does that happen?!

Hey Ready oh honey, hang in there. Hope she stays away. I know how hard it is. I have to say though that when I did get my BFP all those months of trying didn?t seem that long. I?m trying to keep that in mind now. Huge hugs. Glad you had a lovely BBQ and that the garden is finished; now you can really enjoy it! No news on the house I think there is some talk of the Home Information Packs coming into effect but not as soon as in England.

Seaside how come up so early these days then? I just thought that maybe my temps are always lower than everyone else?s cos I temp at 6am never thought of that! Glad to hear you are feeling brighter All great with DH and me now last night, he wanted to play but I was too tired and he told me I must as it was ?a good time? for him, we ended ourselves laughing!

Jess1996 sorry that you found your colleague?s news hard. Of my pg friends, one lost her baby at 6 months and had to give birth to it she?s terribly psychologically affected and another has to have a section at 30 weeks because the baby needs a blood transfusion due to her being a -ive blood group and the antibodies attacking the baby I just want to hear about lots of uncomplicated, easy pregnancies.

Hey RahRah hope you are having a lovely relaxing time.

Hello NappyValley thank you hon. How are you?

Thinking of you Beansprout xx If you want to join us on the pregnancy after MC thread, please do, might help. xx

Hello Honeyapple I agree with you, it is a catch 22 when you want a BFP, chances are, it?ll be delayed! Hope you are well and that bumps getting lovely and big!

Hope you are having a lovely time City

Hello Rattling Mum03 Duchesse Patron Saint

CityAngel - ° CD2 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD4 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD5 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD7 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - ° CD8 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD7 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD13 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD14 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD17 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD21 4dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD23 5DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.19° CD29 13DPO LP12 (8th cycle)

Pretty sure today will become CD1 in a few hours

PIMMS what a brillaint idea. Far more enjoyable than plain old tea.

To encourage you all, I'll remind you that we were trying for 11 months for my ds. I have not forgotten how frustrating and heart breaking it was then and all the anxieties involved. This time round I am trying not to be so obsessive and try not to think about it too much, but it is so incredibly hard.

Girls do not be down hearted the BFP could be a cycle away. I'll have words with the Pregnancy Panda and ask her to drop by.

And why do we all seem to be surrounded by those who seem to get pregnant just by sneezing!!!!!!

Ready hang in there bub it will happen. Don't panic - the average time is about a year.

beansprout - ° CD3 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.39° CD4 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD6 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - 36.82° CD7 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - 35.95° CD6 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD12 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.38° CD13 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD16 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD20 3dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD22 4DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.32° CD28 12DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD30 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

Thank you so, so much for all your messages, thoughts and hugs, I really appreciate your support and it has helped me through a really difficult weekend.

Have added myself the list, cracked open the grapefruit juice and am back! Anyway, I missed you all too much on the ante-natal threads!
Am off for an early night, but will post more tomorrow.
Big hug to the lovely lot of you.

Glad you are tipsy Ready, just posted you on chartspotters thread, but looks like your garden cheered you up, (must gloat more about my new house soon!!! LOL)

oops... that took a LONG time to type... Honeyapple - I am going to see my GP, thanks hon. But apart from getting tests sorted, she can't refer me til 12 months anyway... still too young!

Soooo? turns out I found the silver lining to my temp drop quite quickly ? A HUGE Jug of Pimms!! I am pretty tipsy still ? DH and I had an impromptu BBQ in our finished masterpiece of a garden and it was a wonderful afternoon. I think the fact that the most I have drunk in over a year is a couple of glasses of rosé in the last month

Beansprout - Sending much love. Thinking of you. ((hug))

Seaside - thanks for the hug. I really need it today. Bless you for getting upset at overhearing strangers conversations ? hey, you are not alone!!
Haha ? I haven?t forgotten to take my temp yet?. I woke up the other morning and took my temp then realise it was 3.50am and still had lots of hours to sleep!
Not long til your appointment Fingers and toes crossed for you.

Rah - Hope you are having a great time in the principality!! Hope your MIL is spoiling you rotten with lots of cooked breakfasts
Fingers crossed that this week (11 days) away is just the ticket and you come back with a baby growing in your tum!

Jess - I keep telling myself that too ?it must be a good sign that my cycles are regular, and that my LP is 12/13days too? It must be a good sign ? mustn?t it???? Looking back over my charts, we could perhaps have had more sex around the crucial times, the timing seems right most of the time ? just not enough! ? and to be honest, I think we really ought to be continuing the effort throughout the entire cycle, but we just seem to run out of steam ? we had planned to do it every other day throughout the rest of this cycle after the crucial stage ? but we only managed it once more. Shocking really . I have been temping since cycle 2! Fingers crossed for you. I am with you on your question ? How the f** do ?accidents? happen!!??

Minxi - Sorry that the clomid is making you weepy ((hugs)) ? I had really high hopes too this month. FOOL that I am! Still, give me a week and I will be having stupidly high hopes for cycle 9 too ? I am going to speak to my GP ? it?s 12 months for me because I am still under 30 ? Fingers crossed for you chick!

NappyValley - I am still waiting for you and Seaside to get in your cars and come make me a brew and chocolate cake! You were right ? the sunshine most certainly did help! Yesterday I thought I was going to get sunstroke at one point watching the football. And today it was just bliss! Hope it?s been great down there ? the best part of the country IMO! Fingers crossed for you.

MrsMcJnr - How?s it going?? Just wondered how the house sale is going? Are the Home Information Packs coming into effect in Scotland soon? Or is it just in England? I am pretty sure if your house is on the market before June then you are exempt ? which is why we are trying to get the house ready for the middle of March ? just in case we have to move. Hope all is well ? fingers crossed.

Rattling - Hope all is well, fingers crossed for you! Don?t let the 2ww drag you down! What?s the deal with horseriding when pregnant??

Cityangel - Cycle bud ? your CD1 came too early ? can we still be cycle buddies even though we are not on the same day ? just the same month ttc?? Hope you are enjoying the cocktails

Mum03, Iwillbe and Duchesse and The Graduates - hope you are well, fingers crossed.
I am really sorry if I have missed anyone? but I did say I was tipsy!

PS. Sorry for any typos.

Hiya,

Sorry to hear you are feeling down Ready. Maybe you might want to approach your GP about it all? (Sorry if you have already).

Jess- I think the thing with accidental PG is the desire to get PG is not there, neither is the stress and worry that is associated with TTC. I am a living example of this phenomenon. My DD was very much an accidental pregnancy, including taking MAP, (with DS it was more a case of not using contraception for a month and knowing that it was possible I would get PG) however when TTC really for the first time with this pregnancy, it surprised all my family and friends that it took 6 mths. I know that it was the pressure i was putting on myself to get PG, and the strain it was having on my body emotionally and physically. I accept that 6 mths is not that long to TTC, but for me, having expected to get PG very quickly, it was a shock. When you are in the thick of TTC it is difficult if not impossible to see out of it... I believe the only reason I got PG when I did was because I had given in to fate and was going to take a break the next month. Sorry, this isnt very helpful I know, and potentially also VERY irritating.
Lots of love to you all. I hope May brings many many BFPs. xxxxx

NappyValley - 36.39° CD4 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD6 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - 36.82° CD7 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - 35.95° CD6 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD12 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.38° CD13 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD16 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD20 3dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD22 4DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.32° CD28 12DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD30 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

Sorry to hear you're down ready, it seems so unfair doesn't it. It is good news that you OV regularly though and have a normal LP. That's what I tell myself. I can't remember the statistics, but isn't it something like even if you BD at exactly the right time you only have a 20-25% chance of pregnancy. For an impatient person like me, that's a really depressing statistic. I guess we just have to remember that if on average you will only get pregnant one month in every five, then waiting eight cycles is just a bit of bad luck! Do you think you timed the BDing right when you first started trying. I know I missed the first 3 cycles because I thought that CD14 was the best day when in fact I seem to OV anytime between CD16 and CD20. So each month I gave up to soon. So although I'm down as 8 cycles, I can really only count 5 - one of which was at least initially successful. I just keep thinking that one day I will have my family and I will look back at this time and think what an impatient, worrier I was.

I do have a question for all the MNetters though:

How do people get pregnant by accident?

In the last month I have had 2 people announce accidental pregnancies to me.

That must involve - contraceptive failure, BD at the right time and then there's only a 1/5 chance.

Surely the odds against it must be staggering!!!

Anyway, hi to everyone else. Hope you're enjoying your weekend.

NappyValley - 36.39° CD4 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD6 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - 36.82° CD7 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD6 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD12 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.38° CD13 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD16 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD20 3dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD22 4DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.32° CD28 12DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD30 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

Hi everyone

Ready- Oh sweets -I am so sorry you are low {{{{big hugs}}} (I have dropped you a line) xxxxxxx

Rah - hope Wales is good and that you are able to avoid the brother vibes.

MrsMc Hope you and your DH are doing OK? - {{{big hugs}}} for you too.

Minxi - know what you mean about forgetting to temp - it is easy to get out of the habit - yesterday I was half way to the loo then remembered and ran back under the duvet??!

jess {{{big hugs}}} pg anouncements are such a torment and send me into a complete spin - Today I was walking back to my car behind 2 mums and their buggies and beautiful children and I overheard one saying she had her scan and it is a boy - she was a total stranger and I felt myself getting upset

beansprout - if you are out there I am sending more {{{hugs}}} to you also. Take care of your self hun.

NappyValley - hope you are enjoying the sun well done for a stirling offfer of mugs of tea all round - I'll contribute a big fat chocolate cake. (BTW CityAngel is on hols in the USA )

rattling duchesse and Iwillbe and all our graduates -

NappyValley - 36.39° CD4 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD6 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - forgot° CD7 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD6 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD12 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD13 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD16 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD20 3dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD22 4DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.65° CD28 12DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD30 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

To the many of you currently having a really tough time. I hear and sense your pain, frustation and loss and hope things feel more managable soon.

Wish I could give you all a big hug and come round and make mugs of tea and listen to you with a jumbo box of cleanex.

Beansprout, sorry I took you off the list, add yourself back in when you are ready.

Any news from CityAngel?

MrsMcJ I really admire your abililty to talk things through and be honest with DP. Thanks for sharing as it is encouraging to me.

I hope the sunshine this weekend helps a little.

Morning all

beansprout - just wanted to send you some love as well... Have been thinking of you.. XXX

Hi Ready...

I just logged on for the first time since hitting Wales... (Left 6am on Sat morning)... all I can say is I know your heartache so very much and it so painful..I have been having the same problems this month as the disappointment each month seems to be harder to take as the months go on.
They say most couples should conceive within the first 12-18 months. So your still a little way off. We waited 18 months for Bertie, so it does work in the end and normally in the month you least expect it.
I just don't know why its not working,,,, it does not make sense. People always say (including my husband) it will happen! So I like as many people to say it as possible to keep me going... So I am hoping that will help you... IT WILL HAPPEN!!!! PROMISE!! I know it is so difficult not to be one of those people that it just happen for, but when it does happen they will be all that bit more special! Remember that there is so much they can do out there and I rarely hear of people that remain childless, unless they have really bad gynie problems. Which you don't as you are ovulating and having regular cycles! I promise it is just a matter of time!

XXXXXX Sending you lots of love and hugs

NappyValley - ° CD4 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD6 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - ° CD7 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD6 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD12 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD13 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD16 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD20 3dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD22 4DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.32° CD28 12DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD30 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

I think that my heart has broken. I am not sure how much more disappointment it can take.
I am so very sorry for the melodrama from me at the moment. It's just that I am losing my strength... my sparkle.
I am always the optimistic one, always the one who finds the silver lining in the darkest cloud. But it's getting harder and harder to find anything remotely positive to come from yet another month with nothing to show for it.
I'm sitting here in tears (yeah, I normally wait til cd2 for tears!) at the prospect that I may never be a mother. My heart really is breaking today.

Sorry to bring down the thread... Thinking of you all.

NappyValley - ° CD3 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD5 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - forgot° CD6 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - 36.0° CD5 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD11 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.23° CD12 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD15 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD19 2dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD21 3DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.65° CD27 11DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD29 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

beansprout I'm so sorry to hear your news. Thinking of you.

I had a bad day yesterday. Yet another new pregnancy was announced at work. I ended up crying in the toilets, then again in the car and again at home. I feel better today, but sometimes it seems like this pain will never end.

NappyValley - ° CD3 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD5 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - forgot° CD6 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD5 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD11 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.23° CD12 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD15 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD19 2dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD21 3DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.65° CD27 11DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD29 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

Well I am attempting to quietly temp a bit again but am waking much earlier (6-6.30am) so temps are lower than my last few charts hopefully the pattern will remain though.

Ready - temp still looking good 11dpo and LP12. Hope your headache is better.

Hope everyon else is doing good - am having a happy day so far - DH is home, sun is shining and just got back from lovely yoga sesh feeling like am getting back to normal slowly - maybe that's just how it is now - every month takes a little bit longer to recover from the disappointment -

NappyValley - ° CD3 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD5 LP11 (11th cycle)
Minxi - ° CD6 LP11 (12th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD5 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Rahrah - ° CD11 LP13(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD12 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD15 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD19 2dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD21 3DPO LP10 (16th cycle)
Ready - 36.65° CD27 11DPO LP12 (8th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD29 LP10 (8th cycle) AF due CD30

Busy Busy Busy - no time to post my usual...

Just need to say...

Beansprout - Oh hon, I am so sorry. I know there is nothing that I can say to make you feel better, I really wish I could. I only hope you know that we are all here for you. Thinking of you, sweets. Take care of yourself. Big hugs.

Oh Beansprout - I am so so sorry! how awful for you - it is so cruel to have had a BFP to have it taken away from you so quickly. I remember how awful I felt over Christmas when I had my 2nd mc at only 5 weeks. You look after yourself - glad to see that you are getting straight back on the horse so to speak.

MrsMc - glad to hear that you and DH have sorted things out - I'm a real advocater of talking, talking, talking around these times, as it is so easy to be misunderstood I think when you are so emotional and unbalanced still. Keep up the talking. I know what you mean about the mc, in a way after my 1st, i kind of hoped that it was a one-off, but when I had the 2nd, I wanted to know why much more, so that I could have a chance of stopping it happening again. Thankfully though, I know I've been lucky. Still can't believe I'm 18 weeks tomorrow - its gone very quickly. Still worried everytime I go to the loo or with every ache and pain, but i don't think that will ever go away.

Lottie - sorry to hear you sounding a bit low. We had a motivational speaker who was a round the world yachtsman, but my goodness was he dull! he had the most beautiful eyes, but after 25 mins even that part of him got boring and he continued to talk for over an hour (wasn't his fault that his speech had only started at 1130pm, but still...). But he was gorgeous, just wish I'd had more interest and understanding in sailing!! Enjoy the scenery while your in Spain, both country and eye candy! and Enjoy getting extra fit - sounds wonderful!

Hello to everyone else

Hello Fettleandmini thanks for your kind words and for admitting about crying for the ones you lost. I keep warning myself to stop thinking that the next baby will put an end to all the pain. Telling myself I will still miss Ava. DH and I chatted about it all last night, I told him that his being ?over it? and not seeing her as having been a baby but just cells made me feel more alone and he recognized that the way he expressed his feelings did deny the miscarriage which was so traumatic for us both. I think we are ok now. I see where you are coming from about the Thrombophilia but I guess I was hoping that the MC was just bad luck and wouldn?t have been down to anything that might re-occur. You are right, treatment works in the majority of cases. Let?s hope I am one of them. How are you feeling these days?

NappyValley ? thanks hon I?ve really appreciated your support over the last few days. How are you doing today? Not sure of a place (internet place?) to get that info, I would be interested too. Sorry for messing up the temps Love the army analogy, wish the insurgents had been defeated though.

Hey Jess1996 ? thanks hon

Oh Lottie HELLO !! Sorry to hear you are down about the lack of TTC hon and that things are fraught with DP, I really am. Glad to hear the sailors are nice looking Good for you on the running, bet you are looking fab! Don?t stay away too long.

Hello RahRah you vent here all that you like hon, we are behind you 150% x

Iwillbe, hello there thanks for your kind words for me. I don?t think DH realized how insensitive he sounded, he didn?t mean to make things worse for me. All ok now Sorry about the dreams, I have a lot of very vivid ones too (and when I do have a baby in them, I always keep him (always a him!) on top of the wardrobe?! My temp is often still quite high during AF too.

Hey Ready hang in there honey!!

Hi Duchesse ? glad you found a thermometer to use! OPKs can be tricky little blighters, they have got me going mad before now too.

Oh God Beansprout ? NO! are you ok? What is happening? I hope you are like Greedy and it?s a false alarm.

Hello Patron Saint Greedy ? miss chatting with you must get over to the graduate?s thread to see you all and catch up.

Hey Honyapple ? hope things are good with you