Hut of Gl/Doom, part IV - FTC, because that's what we do....

One cyberslap heading your way

She did think at six weeks the 'baby' would only be two cells. Now she realises the eyes are forming and there is a heartbeat this or next week.

In some ways it is really lovely she is so ignorant about what is going on and how difficult it can be. Althouigh she is late thirties she is as niave on this as a sixteen year old would be. It is sad someone (like me) who hasn't had a baby should know so much and be so cynical.

Don't think she will run as she has an injury - so that kinda solves the issue.
Just wish I wasn't so weepy about it - I need a slap. Any offers?

Sunshinedays - your friend is an idiot.

So many people conceive once with no effort whatsoever and then fail quite spectacularly to conceive again.

How is it possible to be do flippant about a baby

hopeful that period didn't start this morning LNO

Sunshine, my pregnant friend said pretty much the same thing to me before she went for her 12 week scan - I was completley shocked and horrified but I don't think its as rare an attitude as you might imagine.

I had horribly vivid dreams last night again where I had a baby, the flashbacks throughout the day just kill me.

I add my vote to the Duchess would be great at writing a book idea

Hi LNO -
Just wondering if you've thought about contacting the IVF clinic - I think they may up your progesterone?
I have had spotting previously and asked my consultant what happens if I get it with IVF - I think he said they my up my drugs.

Oh Duchess, like sideways I shouldnt laugh but you are so dry and funny. Ever thought of writing a book. We could all club together and do like an Adrian Mole type but something along the lines of FTC aged 36 3/4! no doubt others will think of a more suitable title.

Went to bed and laid dead flat - new method to keep AF at bay. Suffered horrid cramps in the night and dreaded getting up this morning - had to obviously - to nothing...its all gone quietis this the lull before the big flow?

Seaside - headstands sound pretty good at the moment from where I am - may try that this afternoon.
Bespeckledegg - love that name - yep DP and I are going to go for a relaxing walk - Im already trying to think of ways to check knickers along the way without him noticing...oh god it would be really funny if it wasnt so desperate!

Duchesse - have you tried IVF? just wondering if you had crossed that bridge yet or crossed it off??

Have just been lurking cos not sure if am miserable enough for the hut today but have to comment on this - "She says if she looses it it's Ok as she knows she can conceive quickly." Sunshinedays, I am at your friend! That's a life she's talking about! Having lost 2 myself I can't imagine anyone being so flippant about it! Some people really do lack compassion don't they.
LateNightOwl - sorry to hear you are spotting, it could be implantation though, I don't really know anything about IVF but I would guess that still happens. Try to relax a bit if you can, I've got my fingers crossed for you.

LOL duchesse - so I take you are might not be coming back to the temping thread!!! IKWYM about everyone being pg - I find myself staring at women and their bumps everywhere I go. It sucks

LNO - crap about the spotting - def no chance it is implantation bleed? (or is it diff with IVF? ) Last month I tried doing lots of yoga headstands and shoulder stands to keep AF away - but the bit@h wouldnt take a hint!

duchesse, I know it's no laughing matter, I know this is very serious and bloody depressing and I know laughing is not allowed in the Hut, but your last post did make me titter (a little).

It's the way you tell 'em.

Hi Folks, love the new hut - looks kinda hippy like, and can smell the wacky backy - whose on that tonight?

Feel like Ive been away for ages - thats cos I had high optimism and hope so dwelt on an IVF site for a week and a bit to learn more about that. But dear Hut was calling...feeling really sad today Im due to test on Wed after IVF attempt and Ive started to spot today. Im dreading waking up in the morning to a possible AF. Do you think if I lie in bed all day tomorrow it will stop it

re your conversation on temperatures. Ive also been doing that cos thought that would give me an early indication of potential AF. Normally I dip to around 36.3 the day before AF. Today I had a huge hike up to 36.9 from 36.6 so went off to work with high optimism and yet I still spotted. Bitch! So I guess I can't even get that right either why does our bodies play with our emotions so???

ps seen there are many chocs and toffees but no drink - is this a "dry" hut??? (LNO opens up a few bottles of wine) anyone care for a drink???

Good luck with your dinner Impatience. I'm not very good at this stuff I'm afraid. As a friend once told me, "you have very loud thoughts....".
You don't have to go, if it feels a bit much at the moment. Really you don't. What's the point of having a difficult evening? Says she, who really doesn't go out that much anymore!!

yep

I don't think women have any idea about problem ttc unless they suffer it.
I really wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Sunshine at your friend. How blase.

Beansprout, that's about the whatever of it. Temp supposedly goes up the day after ovulation, but mine (when I used to do the LH sticks reliably) would go up about 4 days after my LH surge, so perhaps the day after rule isn't hard and fast. Many people find their temp drops the day of their period, and might start to drop the day before. I would get both, and it also confirmed to me that that was actually my period and that I was not pregnant.

Clearly my crap typing is not just a PMT symptom.

I don't really fell I can say anything as I have never got past 28days before getting an af. (who ever decided a period should be called af???)

Temperatures in a nutshell: Only use one decimal place. Take it pretty much same time each morning before you get up (pref jsut as you wake)
Temps can be high while you are bleeding - so I wait for til towards end. They are then (on a ave) low. IF you are lucky you'll get a markered drop of around .3 C (Shag like mad) then a significant rise. Eg mine are about 36.3 pre ov then 3.8 after.
IF you're up the duff the temps stay high if not they drop a day or so before af starts.
Repeat ad infinitum.

Make sense?

Oh and Sunshine - please tell her from me, that we barely tried to conceive ds, but look at us now..... (she said, bitterly).

Sunshine - sorry, but that's a really odd attitude for her to have. How strange.

I have just ordered a bbt thermometer. I think I know the basics - chart and then your temp goes up after you have ovulated - is that right? Does it do anything at the end of the month i.e. will it let me know if my period is on its way?
I know I could spend hours googling this, (and I will), but a few handy hints from my fellow gloomsters would be appreciated.

She does plan to still run it (though she has an injury so that might prohibit). She says if she looses it it's Ok as she knows she can conceive quickly. So that is just fine. Just splendid.
Guess compassion isn't one of her strongest attributes.

Sunshine and Seaside, it's horrid isn't it? I'd like to feel happy for her. She is lovely (homophobic husband and various parenting issues aside, oh and empathic incompetence) so my friend really doesn't deserve such resentment from me. (Sunshine, will your friend still do the marathon?)

Poor Sunshine, that sounds like a horrible time.

Good idea to use my cheating uncle as a diversion at the dinner party! I wonder how many times I can mention him?

Beansprout . Thieving bitch. I can't believe you're now being asked for more. Completely understand how your dh would be scared of rocking the boat. What a shit situation.

I went to see her again today too her a book, mag and a little toy I had secretly been stashing away for (well, you can guess who for)

It's not that I'm not really happy for her - I actually talked her in to starting ttc as it is taking me so long, but I am also deeply jealous. It is a horrid emotion - but there all the same.