We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread 11

Yellow thanks! It does seem like a bit of an unknown!!! Well I have just had a phone call back from gp to say that she did phone observed and gyne and talked to them about it and while they aren't too sure on the benefits in prevention for everyone without a specific reason they would prescribe it at rmc so they are happy for me to be started on it now... I feel pleased that at least I'm trying something.. I know it might not make a difference but it makes me feel I'm doing something to give this pregnancy the best possible shot.

Not pissing money down the drain and avoiding the heartache of BFNs is exactly what I hoping for Bertie, and the book is so enlightening. I got it for about £8 off amazon. My brain was scrambled (with masses of info, not confusion!) and racing by the time I'd finished reading last night but it's so easy to read, and actually quite funny, I was completely hooked. She has a website as well. I haven't been on it but I'll find you a link if you haven't seen it.

And you're soooo right on Ovia vs FF. Ovia asks for a lot of info and then dishes out the same generic crap every day. It's been useful as a record of symptoms, but I could have made a note anywhere. Do you pay for it for the bells and whistles? I'm a bit tempted but not sure how long I'd sign up for and it is expensive.

NoCats, if you take it the sameish time every day I don't think it matters, you'd still see changes. She suggests doing it as you walk to the bathroom if you're desperate for a wee, and ways around working nights and things.

DH knows I'm temping and isn't worried about knowing where I am in the cycle, but he hasn't noticed me actually doing it at all. I bought the £16 digi one on amazon and the beep is barely perceptible. When I'm half asleep I have to struggle to hear it. I keep it on my bedside table, wake up, pop it in, take it out and then doze or get up.

I've had two horrendous nights sleep, last night I was awake for an hour and a half from 4:30, the night before I was awake every hour for about 10 minutes from 4. Bad sleep doesn't do much for temp consistency! But it's still useful.

I had no idea that 18 consistently high temps after ov mean you're pregnant. That's what she says and it would certainly save money peeing on sticks!

I'll stop banging on about it now, sorry, I have the zeal of a convert

What it doesn't answer is why the fuck I'm not pregnant when we tend to DTD every day or at least every other day and have never missed ovulation. But at least I'm getting more of an insight into my cycle, just from a nerdy knowledge perspective. She suggests every other day works for some people but only if your partner has a proven sperm issue.

Beautiful chart grumpy, god I hope this works for you xxxx

Crossing everything!

Really hope it works this month 🤞🏼🌈👶🏼

@BertieBotts but I didn't get a positive OPK until cd 18 so can't have ovulated earlier than that. At the most I'm 10dpo today, more likely 9. Temp still up there this morning so that's good.. trying not to get my hopes up too much!! AF due Monday for a 30 day cycle

I have really long cycles so I forced myself to wait until 21 dpo to test... it was excruciating though I do admit but much better for me in that I was slightly less worried about chemicals.

@Smurf123 obviously not a medical professional here but I'm going to start aspirin as soon as I hopefully! get another bfp, although hospital doctor said about taking it from the time I see a heartbeat. But then I think if I'm not offered an early scan, how would I know?! If anyone has any advice on aspirin I'm all ears x

Cats I suppose you could go to the bathroom, but it might be easier just to get a thermometer which doesn't beep? DH didn't even notice I was temping for months and months! Plus, you could tell him that it doesn't actually tell you anything in advance, you only really get the information in retrospect, so it's much more of a "So, how did we do?" than a "Should we shag yet?"

Lastly as an argument for using fewer pregnancy tests, it's phenomenal. I barely ever test now because I know from my temps whether it's likely or not.

Morning all
I've just been to gp (but couldn't get my normal one!) she said she will refer me to epu but that they won't see me until at least 7 weeks :-/ my booking scan first time round was 8 weeks and I had epu scans every 2 weeks from 4 weeks last time so I don't understand...
Asked about hayfever tabs and aspirin... Been told no to the hayfever stuff which is one be fair I'd already stopped taking anyway about a week ago. But resulting in eyes that are a puffy mess and constant sneezing.. Been told I can take eyedrops but not the tablets. And with regards to aspirin she said she doesn't think I should take it yet :-/ which I'm not particularly happy about. Apparently this would be prescribed by gynaecology or rmc if they thought it was needed.. I did make the point that yes but I was referred to rmc/gynaecology in February But am still waiting on the appointment to even come through... She has said she will phone the epu to get me appointment and will ask them at that point..

Grumpy I have a good feeling!

You can see compared to the FF data that Ovia is way out. I was squinting at that thinking you must have ovulated on CD 16 or 17 and wondering where on earth it had got that strange coverline and odd fertile window from but scrolled down to see the FF one which made much more sense

I am 7dpo today and Fertility Friend puts our timing at "high" - apparently DH's broken foot means he can't run away from sex

I hugely covet TCOYF actually - just never really brought myself to actually buy it. Perhaps I'll look into getting a used copy from amazon. I want to get Kate Evans' book "Bump" but I don't know whether to wait until I'm pregnant. Maybe I'll leave it a couple of months and then go on a fertility book buying spree!

grumpy I'm crossing everything for a definitive BFP for you tomorrow!

So I seem to have identified a new pattern, which is that I ovulate alternate months really early at CD 10 and other months on CD13. So this seems to have been a super early OV month, we only DTD on CD7 and 8 so I think that's not really enough. But I've been on the Agnus Castus since Monday, and I'm now CD13 and no spotting! FX this is a good month. I only have a 10 day LP, so not too long til next fertile week.

And grumpy so hope for a not white FRER tomorrow - everything crossed for you!

Wow so the things you learn on here! I'm liking the sound of this temping lark. anne tell me, could you get up to go to the bathroom to take temperature or must you do it lying down in bed? DH doesn't want to know I'm peeing on things etc to know when I'm fertile, as it's our third baby he doesn't want me going mad like I did trying to conceive ds2!! It took almost two years and I descended into a pee on anything voodoo magic nightmare! So I'm trying to be subtle about it all this time!

In other news I'm cd24 have zero symptoms other than a stinking cold and have no idea how many dpo i might be or even if I ov this month.... I'm def not testing until next wednesday though at the latest!

I'm ok thanks - I've also learnt about cervix position temping etc.

I can now tell if my temp is dropping in the run up to af or raising in run up to preg without taking after monitoring. Not temped this month as taking a break, but I can feel af is coming. I also happened to monitor cervix last month before the brief pregnancy - apparently it can be hit and miss, but I did feel it disappear completely as I got a first faint line. My uterus felt like a balloon too!

My positive opk must have been a rise of something before af as they say. The next day was negative. Before my chemical though they did get progressively stronger. (I'm just testing the theories!)

I'm 12 dpo and my cervix has dropped. I'm expecting af in the next couple of days. I'm pleased actually as this month confirms my luteal phase is good. I sometimes ovulate early for some reason, hence slightly shorter cycles.

Oh, also, one of my main realisations was I've actually ovulated later than I thought I did, for pretty much the whole time I've been TTC! So I've often tested way earlier than was sensible. Who knew?!

Hey Ek, how are you doing?

Fingers crossed for some clarity and good news Grumpy!

Hope you're feeling alright Lime, so pleased it showed up and has been convincing and yes, now it's put your mind at rest hopefully it naffs off soon!

yellow, play it by ear and see how you feel I think. Have you had a BFN yet?

I read the entirety of the Taking Charge if your Fertility book last night, hundreds of pages, though I skipped using it for contraception - because I'm trying my very hardest to get myself knocked up!

It's absolutely brilliant. Fertility Awareness Method, which is temping (I'm such a massive convert, had NO IDEA how much it can tell you?!), checked cm and add in cervix position if you want to. It's so so simple and we're all mostly following some of the principles on here already but as a whole picture it's blown my mind. It's answered so many questions I've had and that we've discussed on here as well.

Right, sorry, enough enthusing! But it's great when you find something which just makes sense. And FF seems to apply most of the logic, it's a stonking bit of work, so helpful.

Hope everyone's okay today x

Oooh grumpy! I had this - Sainsbury's seem really sensitive OR they show rubbish evaps!

I had exactly this, then a FRER did start to show a faint line. Mine was later though, around 12 dpo and became my chemical.

I'd test in a couple of days I wouldn't really, it would be every day

@Lime19 yay for AF!

I'm undecided whether to be sensible and wait for AF or whether to crack straight on like last time.

Is it Sainsbury's and Superdrug tests that are notorious for false positives? After seeing a couple of threads I decided to keep well away from those ones.

Good luck @TheGrumpySquirrel I have a feeling it won't be paperwhite... keep us all updated!

It is sooooo frustrating!! I'm feeling a bit different from last month- sore boobs for example, not to mention the constant cramping for the last 5 days (which has stopped today) but I feel mostly normal. I don't want to see another paper white FRER tomorrow!

Hi ladies- so pleased for those of you with good news going on! Please stay with us and keep the rest of us hopeful. 😀

@Lime19 I saw this and thought Of you. Not sure if you're anywhere nearby, or if anyone else might be interested. I don't have pcos but a friend of mine shared the link so I'm passing it on.

www.rsm.ac.uk/events/events-listing/2016-2017/groups/medicine-and-me/mmh06-medicine-and-me-living-with-polycystic-ovary-syndrome

No real news from my end. I've been three days now without bleeding (after six weeks and three days😕), which is amazing. It's just been so brilliant to be able to DTD again and go out of the house without a bag stuffed full of sanitary towels! #winning 😂But of course I have NO idea where my cycles are so just having to start from scratch and guess. x

Ah, because you also tested with a higher sensitivity test and that came out negative. I'm with you now, sorry. It's Friday! 🙈😂

Why are you thinking it's a false positive grumpy? I have everything crossed for you for Saturday! 🤞🏻

Crikey, what a minefield! Keep us posted. Fingers and toes crossed, Grumpy

Apparently on these Sainsbury's tests you can? They are 15miu sensitivity and FRER are12.5 so it should show on the FRER if it's real

I thought you couldn't get a false positive?!