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Going insane, DH keeps changing his mind when to start TTC, so upset :-(

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user1487864041 · 23/02/2017 15:46

Hi I am new here and for the wrong reasons!
I am at my wits end and it's really beginning to affect me to the point where I am crying almost every day over it.
I just turned 33 and my husband of almost 2 years is nearly 36. We have been together for 7 years and known one another for about 15 years. We always spoken openly when we first got together about raising a family and he always said he would like as many kids as possible!
He still maintains he definitely wants children, but my issue is that he keeps changing the goalposts on when! He has backed out on previous agreements and its really upsetting and angering me to the point of feeling like I am going mad.
We both agreed to spend out first year of marriage with just us, having adventures, partying, getting our bucket list items ticked, travelling, e.t.c. and said we would think about kids after our first anniversary. So shortly after our 1st anniversary (May 2016), he then suggested we wait until January 2017 because we had a 3 week motorcycle trip planned for the Autumn anyway. But I always said, from the start, that I would ideally like our first child before I was 34 (which is a year from now).
We are financially and job secure, have a good support network of family and friends. We are currently househunting for a bigger house out of the city and going to rent our current property we are in as there is not much left on the mortgage and we see it as an investment. We have a pretty good deposit saved for our next move as well.
Anyway so I agreed to waiting until January this year, and told him I would come off the pill in October 16 so that it gave my body a few months chance to get regulated normal cycles. So since that we used condoms and him the PO method.
Around Christmas time he THEN said he would rather we wait longer until we have '£x' amount of a deposit saved!! Which really annoyed me that he put a number on when to start trying for our own family!! Admittedly at this point I was going through a tough time with a sudden death in my family and my Mum was about to start more treatment for cancer, so I was under a bit of stress at that point and never really responded to him saying this.
However I brought up the subject at the end of January and AGAIN he changed the time and said to wait until we had moved into a bigger house (before we ALWAYS said it would be ok to have a baby in our current house, as long as we are moved out of it by the time they are nursery age, so thats obviously years away)!!! We have been househunting for 6 months and the market is not that great so thats like saying how long is a piece of string!!! Plus he knows I will be 34 in a years time!
I have calmly explained how my age can be an issue when trying to conceive and that if we want a couple of kids, the risks over age 35 are more, e.t.c. but I dont think he really understands or is concerned?! I understand that he wants to have all our ducks sitting in a row, be settled in our new home, not have the stress of moving and buying a house with a pregnant wife or baby, but people do it and get on with it and survive!!!
I have explained my feelings on the matter and so has he, and it seems we can not reach an agreement or middle ground. It has put me off sex with him and I am beginning to feel resentful of him flipping the script several times.
It was my birthday 2 days ago, I cried in private the whole day because I just felt so sad that we were not on the same page and I feel that he has disrespected our previous agreements on the issue and its looking more and more unlikely that we will have our firstborn by the time I am 34.
Of course I want us BOTH to be ready and want it at the same time, but I cant help how I feel now with this brewing. Time is of the essence and there never really is a 'right' time to have a baby. Whilst I understand where he is coming from - in that he a man and feels he wants to be a good provider, he probably is a bit scared (who isnt?),have a better home for us, e.t.c. - but he is not understanding of my feelings. He also said he wants us to be healthier when trying to conceive (eating better, cutting down on drinking, stopping smoking, e.t.c. ), but I think now this is just him stalling and making up excuses. Obviously if we were trying to conceive I would take care of my body better and healthier.
All of my friends already have children or are pregnant and it adds to the hurt when they keep asking about when we are going to try, e.t.c. I cant bring myself to tell them how I am feeling.
I get what people have suggested in their comments on other sites, that we should wait for them to come around, e.t.c. but I also agree with the people saying that it's unfair for the man to have full control of the decision!
I do not feel I am being unreasonable at all, he has changed his mind three times now and led me to believe we were going to go down a certain path, only to stop and change it! And there is nothing I can really do about it!
He really is a wonderful man, he is a very good husband, lover and my best friend, good job, supportive (except for this issue lol), sensible with money, e..t.c. the list is long and until lately we have still been in the honeymoon phase, very affectionate with one another and not liking being apart for too long. However now I find it difficult with being in his company because of how I feel. There is no way I waiting until we move house because that could take up to or over a year at this rate!
Anyway, after thinking a lot over the past few days and reading comments on other sites, I am going to request that we seek counselling over it. I don't know what else to do and can not control my feelings. At the end of the day it has left me feeling unhappy, we can not resolve the issue over talking, so I feel we need to try this route to come to some sort of mutual ground. It's driving a wedge and I can not go on feeling like this every single day.

Does anyone have any advice or stories similar to this? What happened?

Thank you for reading xx

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WantToGoingTo · 08/03/2017 17:24

Good luck op! So pleased you managed to have a proper chat, communication is such an issue in many relationships. Looks like you have exciting times ahead! You will have to join us on the buses, I am only 2 weeks off the pill :)

user1487864041 · 07/03/2017 15:58

Thank you everyone.

I will start taking both pregnacare and folic acid as soon as possible then I guess!

I came off the pill in October 2016 so I think my body is still getting used to being 'normal' as I have quite long cycles, my periods are super light and I don't even know how to track my ovulation but I will see how it goes anyway.

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user1471496670 · 07/03/2017 15:21

Great news, good luck BUT as someone else mentioned you really need to be taking the Folic Acid for ideally 3mths before ttc. I think I took about 6wks worth before we got a bit carried away but luckily didn't get pregnant straight away.

Peanut14 · 07/03/2017 14:36
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Juveniledelinquent · 07/03/2017 13:49

Brilliant OP. Good luck x

Nowthereistwo · 07/03/2017 13:32

I bulked bought pregnacare when it was on 3 for 2 in the shops. I believe it's a good all rounder.

My nails were never better!

ethelfleda · 07/03/2017 13:31

Very pleased for you OP and good luck x

user1487864041 · 07/03/2017 13:00

Thank you! Yes the air is clearer.
I have ordered folic acid (read that its good to take these anyway before possibly conceiving.
Are there other ones I should be taking as well?

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Nowthereistwo · 07/03/2017 12:36

That's great to here you managed to have the conversation - it must have been hard but I bet the air is clearer.

Good luck and don't forget to take your vitamins (ideally you start before you're pregnant).

user1487864041 · 07/03/2017 12:27

Hey everyone

Just thought I'd update.........will try to cut a long story short.......so l broached the subject last week with DH......it started off very heated and almost got into a full scale argument! However after both calming down and listening to one another, DH completely understood why I was confused and frustrated and said he had no intention of 'moving the goalposts' and that admittedly part of the perfectionist in him wants us to have found our 'forever home', concerned that pregnancy would add to stress of moving house, wants us to to be healthier, e.t.c. Also he felt that a lot of my time and energy was being taken up by my Mums illness and looking after her and wanted life to be stress free when/if I fell pregnant. When I explained about timing not always being perfect he took that on board and we had a good long discussion about everything, both being honest and coming to understand each point of view.
Anyway so it seems there was some mixed communication as well in what had been previously discussed (he assumed I wasn't ready right now and a few other things we had wrongly 'assumed'). I have to say, it was a difficult conversation to broach, and DH said he felt hugely under pressure......but I assured him I never wanted to use the term 'try' for a baby, just to see if nature can take its course and what can happen and just not use protection.

He was aghast when I asked if he even wanted children as he said he would NEVER have lied to me about that and that of course he does!

Anyway so the condoms are all gone :-) Since then our sex life has become more fun and relaxed as there is no more elephant in the room! There is no pressure, we are just having unprotected sex for the first time being together in almost 7 years.

Thank you for those who gave good advice, it definitely helped me pluck p the courage to talk to him.xx

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AnoiseAnnoysanOyster · 28/02/2017 11:12

Did you talk to him op? How did it go?

sarahlou14 · 27/02/2017 22:20

Good Luck xx

Tindel · 27/02/2017 20:22

Good luck OP, hope you make some progress

AnoiseAnnoysanOyster · 27/02/2017 20:21

Good luck op. You need to have a proper talk with him, let him see how hurt and disappointed you are. Let it out!! I agree with the pp that said stop protecting him.

It sounds like he doesn't want kids and is making every excuse under the sun.

I moved when heavily pregnant and with a toddler! There is no perfect time to have a baby, he needs to realise this. And having a baby doesn't work with perfectionism. Babies don't follow rule books.

Also, make sure he doesn't use the counselling route as another stalling device. You could end up no further along.

Juveniledelinquent · 27/02/2017 19:57

Good luck with talking to him Flowers

CaptainCabinet · 27/02/2017 15:18

It might help to explain that there is no 'perfect' time to do this. The whole thing is unpredictable, even more so when they arrive. That's part of the joy.

You sound on good footing financially (check) so waiting longer now starts to tip the balance the other way in terms of your chances of conceiving.

Good luck

user1487864041 · 27/02/2017 15:11

Once again, thanks for taking the time to reply and advice is appreciated. Up until now I have let it slide but I think some of you are right, I need to show more what it means to me and just how hurt and angry I feel about it.

I am unsure as to what level I would/could provide an ultimatum, but I am seriously hoping it doesn't come to that.

I am going to talk to him TODAY and see where we can go from there.

Thanks xx

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sarahlou14 · 26/02/2017 09:43

Hi When reading this it sounded like I was reading about my relationship! I have been with my partner 7 years and had the exact same problems, about 4 years ago he said he didn't want kids so we went on a break, but then realized we couldn't be apart. Our circumstances changed, my partners dad died, and we had to downsize to a 1 bedroom property. Long story short he said we couldn't bring a baby up in a 1 bed property, we need to save more etc.

Anyway I'm now 36 he is 38 and I honestly thought it would never happen for us, all my friends are having babies why not me? But it will happen and somehow you just need to put it to the back of your mind. Start appreciating each other more, do stuff just the two of you and remember why you married him in the first place and it will happen I promise.

Moved in December 16th 2016, fell pregnant a week later without even trying after 4 years of wanting it. Anything can happen SmileGood luck x

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 26/02/2017 09:12

The problem is that very few women believe their husband could be lying to them about wanting children until it's too late. The facts are that he keeps building walls to block it.

I'm sad to say that it either sounds like he doesn't want children or he does but not right now, or not with you, and you don't have half as much time as him.

I'd be having a serious chat about either TTC now or leaving so you stand a chance of being able to TTC with someone else.

ShuttyTown · 26/02/2017 08:57

He sounds like a knob. Get rid and find someone who doesn't keep stringing you along.

confusedat23 · 26/02/2017 08:51

I think you need to lose it with him... show him just how much he has hurt you!... i spent 4 years with a guy who wanted All of those things but i kept protecting him like you are... turns out he was only ready to commit when i packed my stuff and left the family home we had bought as that was the last step before we were gonna get married and TTC and it still never happened! They tease you with dates and times etc but it never reaches the right time... if you do leave he will cry and tell you he now feels ready... ignore it he will be one of those types that wont ever give you sex even though you are TTC

After leaving i met my DH and got married and are now pregnant with DC 1 all in the space of 2 years!

UndersecretaryofWhimsy · 25/02/2017 11:58

It's time to lose your shit with him.

Scream. Cry. Tell him how hurt and devastated and angry you feel. Tell him you can't go on like this. Tell him he commits to ttc or you are done with him.

Stop protecting him - whatever his reasons, he's messing you around and that can't go on. He mans up and pulls his finger out, or you're out.

Also, and I'm sorry to be blunt, prepare yourself for the fact that he may abstractly want a family 'some day' (especially if he is Christian where having children is expected) but not be willing to man up and actually deal with the reality of children ever.

physicskate · 25/02/2017 11:32

My husband was a bit like that, in that it was a bit scary saying "from now" we are ttc. But nearly a year later we still have nothing... this is NOT something you can completely plan for or control. Maybe saying let's not try. Or prevent might be a way forward??

Ttc has affected my marriage Ina lot of ways and we're starting to think individually there might be something 'wrong'. I am much more negative and bitter than I was. I throw my toys out of the Pram where I used to be really patient. Talking and communication is key!!

Start talking. You might not like what you hear but at least it will then be out in the open!

user1487864041 · 24/02/2017 11:48

Thank you all for your replies and advice. I am relieved to know I am not being too selfish and that I am somehow in the wrong. I am genuinely not hounding him or putting pressure on, because I know this will make things more tense than they already are on the subject. But a few of you have gave me food for thought on how to approach it more firmly. Anyway, it is the elephant in the room these days and he only has himself to blame.

I am 99.9% sure he definitely DOES want children. Prior to getting married when we saw the minister and when he spoke about children, we both agreed and spoke of our commitment to raising a family together if God blessed us with one. DH is very honest and has Christian values, also he often talks about what we would name our children, where to take them on holiday, building them a treehouse, e.t.c. and I do not believe he would tell me bare faced lies and lead me up the garden path so blantantly after being together for over 6 years. I know he wouldn't. If he is I will be utterly shocked!
His best mate and his wife recently had a baby and apart from a 4 day labour and complete exhaustion, he has told DH how complete they feel and how it's all worth it.....so he has some scary stories mixed with the romantic side of them.
DH is a bit of a perfectionist and likes to have plans in place at certain times (which he knows isn't always realistic), and I have said that it just doesn't work like that when TTC and having kids, you can't just slot a baby in when you want!
I do feel at the end of my tether here.

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haveacupoftea · 24/02/2017 07:10

You're going to have to lose the plot with him. You've let him put it off so many times he thinks its ok to keep doing it. He needs to be told that if he doesnt commit to starting a family then its the end. Tell him how it feels to have someone steal your chance at having a family away. You only get one chance at life.