SQUARE ONE TO GRADUATES! Over here! Let's go find those BFPS!

Sorry to hear about your friend tee ☹️ I had no idea how common mc is either, and just expected to get pregnant quickly and easily. It really feels like it's never going to happen for me, and I'm already scared that if it does I'll miscarry. It's incredible how easy it can be and how difficult it can be.

Hoping you get your nosebleed!

I'm day 14 keeping an eye on the OPK s

Morning all,
Jam, sorry to hear you're feeling so low. If I remember rightly you have your appointment for the fertility unit coming up. Hopefully going through that process will renew your energy. I'm sure they will offer some extra help that'll boost your morale. I know that every month that goes by, it's like a little bit more if your soul is taken! We plough on, it will happen, by hook or by crook we will get there.
Kiki how are you getting on in 2ww. I'm still crampy! 10dpo so would expect implantation to have completed by now if successful, had stabbing pains in my left boob last night which is unusual. No sign of a bloody nose tho, and I'm sure I had that with every previous pregnancy. We wait!! Anything to note from your side?
Oh Beagles I totally get it. So many people I know fell 'unexpectedly' last year. It does feel unfair after so long TRYING! My poor friend lost her pregnancy this week (she was the one who made the very cautious/sensitively put announcement to me at New Year). It did make me sad and reminded me again just how fragile pregnancy is. In my 20's I didn't really hear much about infertility & pregnancy loss. Now in my thirties (today marks the start of my last year saying 'early thirties' - 34th bday!) I hear these sad stories all the time. But then the statistics speak for themselves I guess, don't know why I ever thought it was uncommon!!
Footy, hope all good with you my love, when is your next counselling booked for? Assume you have a course?
DuRez I've heard good things about epo.

Still not started full AF yet, now cd20.

Thinking of maybe trying an epo supplement but I've always had short cycles and got pregnant easily last time (5 years ago).

Sorry about the offer and your driving test kiki , I can completely understand you feeling sad at your friends scan too. Hope your day has improved

Beagles I cried on the doctor when I saw her, to be honest I think it's probably quite common and normal for long term TTC and infertility to make people feel very low. I will rally, sometimes it gets to me more than others

Hope everyone doing well

Well there was certainly some catching up to do this morning!! Javelin arse how funny!!

Congratulations nim it is so good to see a BFP on here!!

Tee - I'm still unusually crampy and very moody (watch out everyone!). I've had the conceive plus a while and only used it ad hoc not really paying attention but this cycle used it all the time properly so will let you know how it pans out! Certainly worth a try although not cheap for the size of the bottle but like I said you don't need too much! I work for the ambulance service as a trainer in simulation - not clinical but qualified teacher so they want me to now learn to drive the big vehicles.

Thanks for the tip footy and I think the others are right, from what I've experienced with counselling it gets a bit worse before it gets better as the initial issues are processed - I hope in time he improves for you but good on you for voicing how he made you feel and your commitment to your marriage x

So sorry AF got you beagles how rubbish. Good that you are picking up on patterns though x

So I'm having 'one of those days' today probably hormonal in the run up to AF - some close friends of ours are having their 12 week scan today so pleased for them but a little sad for myself as they fell when we lost and feeling selfish because of it.

Also our offer wasn't accepted on the house and failed the driving test as it was one of those days yesterday too - onwards and upwards hey ☺!!

Sorry beagles maybe being poorly is making it take a little longer. Are you starting to feel better? Are you getting plenty of rest, water, vitamins etc?

Great news nim thanks for sharing. Everything crossed for a healthy pregnancy now

Glad counselling went well footy please don't take any crap off him

I get that javelin pain when I'm on AF and need a number 2!

Things not great over here. DH and I had difficult conversations last night and I didn't get much sleep. To be honest girls I'm just not coping very well. I'm very low and weepy most of the time. I feel like I'm only just holding it together. So him upsetting me is just the final straw.

We DTD this morning but I feel like it's pointless. We are not getting pregnant. Cycle 14 now and nothing, ever.

Haven't bothered with any OPK s yet, just losing will.

Oh yes I know the one! Think someone else on here once called it lightening vagina! ⚡️

Think you are right Footy, better to work through these things carefully and considerately, and find real permanent ways to get to where you want to be together. It will take time, but it sounds like you are both prepared to invest that which is a great start. x

Beagles /tee i use to get that pain before I had children. My periods since are much lighter. Ha ha never heard of that term before but it made me chuckle.

Yeah I am starting to wonder if things will ever be right. He wants a bigger house, another baby too but is not willing to change his pattern of behaviour. He slips into an arrogant, selfish angry temper when he doesn't get his way. I'm not perfect, I have insecurities, have a soft heart and hedgehog backwards when things get tough which has allowed this cycle of behaviour to happen. I married him, I knew, but had a hope he would change and become softer. He's not all bad- he can be loving and thoughtful. that's the trouble ! otherwise I think I would have just let him go for good.

It's going to be a long slog.. but "hopefully" we will get there. Can't say we're ttc right now, but not preventing. I can't take pill anymore and he won't use any protection so it's all in Gods hands. Stupidly I took the clomid for couple of days as things had improved, before it crashed again, so will continue today and then I'm going to knock it on head until we are seriously trying.

Hope you are felling ok today beagles.

Beagles I've never heard that term?! What does it mean?!

Hmmm, naughty of him to be off like that after, but agree with Beagles, he's probably processing and digesting it all. Really admire your perseverance and dedication to your marriage xx

Sorry beagles ** disappointed for you. Hope your man is being caring for you.

Counselling I thought went ok, did feel was mainly aimed at him. Got to say how I felt over Christmas etc.. but still can't get my head round the fact that he thought this was reasonable behaviour. Anyway was positive whilst we were there, but came home and he ignored me and went to bed. Men eh!

Tomorrow's a new day..

Oh crap Beagles, I'm so sorry 😔 xx

That's interesting about DTD in 2ww! I never do these days because I worry about it disrupting implantation! So silly 🤦🏼‍♀️
You're DTD dates around ovulation look great tho, I feel very encouraged as I did exactly the same plus an o-4!
I paid £99 for my 8 week scan. I think it's worth it, but glad I've been offered it for free next time x

Thanks guys.

I'm cycle 3 since my mmc. The epu won't scan me early unless I have a bleed again. I'm going to pay for a private scan I think, but it's not cheap round here, about £100.

Fingers crossed for you tee. I'm not taking aspirin, I became unwell after Christmas, pretty sure I got a stomach ulcer from the combination of Christmas indulgence (alcohol) and aspirin so have stopped it.

I love a hot bath though and I'm going to avoid them which is going to be really hard. Even harder than avoiding alcohol. I've only drank once since Christmas day and that was only 2 glasses of bubbles. Even dry on nye.

Don't know if it's a coincidence but both times I got a BFP I had dtd loads in the tww. In fw only dtd o-3, o-1 and o day (though I suppose that's quite good).

Snap Footy!! Haha!! I'm well jel, want a Sept bubba so bad!! 🤰🏼x

PS. How many cycles on are you from the mmc? They say you are more fertile for 3 months after? I have had a period since mine, so hoping everything has healed and working as it should! Due again weekend/early next week x