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thanks mrs! i was blown away! and you will be on friday too!

Guys, I've been trying to catch up all morning but have failed sorry ladies! so pleased for you Greedy, I really am, SO hope that I get good news on Friday too. Rahrah - I'm about to email you. Hello to all!

greedyforbabies - so happy for you.. XX

Ready - you seem to have everything in hand

seaside72 - you have totally not over stepped the mark, far from it. I am so pleased for your friend and sometimes I do need people saying 'It will happen'..I know it!!

weepootleflump - I know what you mean, all that time before trying and I could not tell you when I ovulated. The only reason I knew how long my cycles were etc, was because we had to fill out 6 months of information for the clinic..otherwise I would not of know that either...LOL.... Good luck with the MIL..Your very brave!

weepootleflump - 36.69 CD3 (4th cycle ttc)
Mum03 ? 36.6 cd5 (3rd cycle ttc)
Angelfire - tbc CD13 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - 36.16 CD17 (6th cycle ttc)
Iwillbepg - tbc CD17 (9th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.60 CD17 (8th cycle ttc)
Seaside72 - 36.84 CD21 8DPO (11th cycle ttc)
LondonLottie - 36.95 CD23 6DPO (4th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - 36.1 13DPO (3rd cycle ttc)
Honeyapple - tbc cd31 16DPO BFP! (6th cycle ttc)

Rahrah, my cycle has been pretty erratic since the birth, beforehand I was like clockwork. I do know my body better now though, so that helps a lot.

Sorry, no time to chat - have to entertain MIL

Yay greedy!! wonderful news - so happy for you!

Ready - as rahrah said all these charting tools are ultimately flawed - because there seems to be an exception to every rule - I bet you would be able to find someone with a similar chart and temp pattern who got a BFP at the end of it. It is just such a lottery. Hang in there

Like lottie said I think we have to just use the info we gather to observe and inform us. I have just gotten back from my GP after the dreaded 12 month appointment and much to my surprise he was really lovely (not like the judgemental locum I saw in October who said I should stop all testing and charting and just have sex 3 times a week and come back in 18 months if no BFP.) This time my reg GP (who I had seen 18 months ago when came off the pill) said he thought it was time to start some more testing, asked me what CD I was and then said - how convenient i had come on day 21!! (not convenient at all - totally planned by me!!) so he took loads of bloods and said he is booking DH in for tests too (DH a bit at the prospect of sample giving in a hospital!!)

Anyway - it probably won't know any results for a month or so but it was nice to feel listened to and not feel dismissed.

Have to say am secretly praying I am one of the many who seem to start testing and then get a BFP

Rahrah - glad to see no red flags on your tests so far - the more I read the more I think you could so benefit from some alternative therapies. I have utter confidence you will get that BFP. A very good friend of mine lost her first baby at birth (full term) after TTC for 4 years and one m/c - it was a tragedy and they genuinely thought they would never recover - but - now 4 years on she has 2 beautiful DS's (the first conceived 9 months after their loss) They still say if someone had told them how it would end up in the first 6 months after their loss they wouldn't have believed it . (I know that they found great help from SANDS) Sorry if I have overstepped the mark with naive advice - I will shut up now

really sorry, no time to read everones posts at the mo and i really want to, but just to let you know that my scan was fine...in fact it was great! i saw my tiny ickle baby with its heart beating away! only 11mm in size!!!! i am sooooooooo happy and relieved its untrue!!!.......i know im not out of the woods yet.......but its a big step!

sorry, i hope thats not completely insensitive, but i really wanted to tell you all.

have a good day all, mum03 whats happening with you?
rahrah? any more signs of af?
sorry i will catch up kater!

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Thanks Rahrah, everything you say makes sense! I am the first to give out advice, but the worst at following it myself. I genuinely think this month is annovulatory, and now that I have my head round it, I have come to terms with it. It's not going to be our month, onwards and upwards though.

I went to my GP just before we started trying, just to get it logged on my notes, and to ask for some advice. My GP is brilliant, she chatted for ages, and told me not to expect it to happen straight away etc. This is cycle 6, so another 6 to go before they will investigate, I really hope it doesn't come to that

Good luck with your test results, fingers crossed for that

Thanks Ready, same back to you. To be honest you have had loads of sex this month, so pretty much covered well. My chart and OPK were all over the place, I have had lots of tests done by the fertility clinic and nothing has come back so far, which included a test to detect ovulation. So through out my panicking the tests they do are conclusive, where charting and OPK are not. So what I am trying to say is that although the chart/opk are not perfect does not mean that you have not ovulated.
I think its sod law that some people have perfect charts and spot on ovulation indicated by a big positive OPK... and people like us need that confirmation to relax... but thats not reality and life is never black and white. I will phone the clinic and if the tests are definitely all normal for me then I need to accept my body is normal and that it's just bad luck that we have not caught yet. Have you been to the doctors yet? Mine did not do anything for 12 months... but its good to register that you are TTC and the length of time you have been trying. Then if you have still not conceived by 11-12 months you can get a referral to the clinic and have the tests. It is mind numbing the length of time you have to wait, but for these clinic's time is what is normally needed for most couple and then tend to conceive natural in the end... but just takes longer for some... But you have been trying 6 months and thats completely normal....

Just reading all the millions of posts I missed yesterday...

londonlottie - You are right I do need to relax and I also thing me and DH need to get some good exercise. I am still having a lot of ups and downs, which does not help for a healthy well being. Thanks for looking at my chart, how can I put a coverline in?

angelfire777 - I would love to speak to you...you have an amazing job! I do think you are right about the letting go..It's extremely hard. Thanks for the link. I don't mind speaking about him at all. A little boy, 1lb 7oz, called Bertie and he lived for 6hrs.

Ready - To be honest look at my attempt this month of using OPK's... maybe they are not great for you either... remember I was getting ever so upset, thinking I had not ovulated and now it's obvious I had around when I had a faint line... I think they are a bit pants actually..

weepootleflump - I just clicked too.. can't believe we are on the same thread.. Sending you a big hug all the way to Nuneaton..Has your body been a bit all over the place?

ammylovesolivia - I live in Coventry, so just round the corner too from you!

mum03 - you seem to still be holding high temps... have you maintained these above your coverline? I'm feeling a bit better, just a lot going on at the moment with other things and then TTC on top is just such a struggle of emotions... I have a bereavement midwife from the hospital, but to be quite frank she's not one to really listen. I have signed up to cruse and waiting for an appointment. They have about a 8 week waiting list.

seaside72 - Glad to hear to found FF..and holding a good temp. Thanks for all the info and looks like everyone else will be joining in too..

greedyforbabies - Good luck for today!

minxi - enjoy Dorset!!

I hope I have not missed anyone off, but need to go as will get in trouble with DH very soon, as he has taken the day off to be with me today.

Fingers crossed for you Rahrah, but if you have full flow today, then I would count it as CD1 personally. Hang in there petal

Lottie, you aren't talking out of turn, don't worry. It's just that I have had pretty consistent charts since I started charting, and was really optimistic for this cycle, plenty of sex and it could all have been for nothing, no ovulation means no BFP no matter how much sex we had It's funny, I was telling Rahrah that same thing about annovulation happening and being perfectly natural, but when you realise it might be happening to yourself too, it's more raw. I have decided to write this month off, try not to worry anymore, and just concentrate on being more relaxed next cycle.

Oh, I set up a chart on FF, DH and I talked about using software yesterday, he thinks it will make me worse (probably right) and won't help me relax anymore than my booklet, so trying the free software first, if it helps then I'll get the TCOYF. Makes sense (darn I hate it when he's right ) cos if it makes me worse, I can just cancel the account and won't have wasted more money on ttc.

weepootleflump - TBC CD3 (4th cycle ttc)
Mum03 ? 36.6 cd5 (3rd cycle ttc)
Angelfire - tbc CD13 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - 36.16 CD17 (6th cycle ttc)
Iwillbepg - tbc CD17 (9th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.60 CD17 (8th cycle ttc)
Seaside72 - 36.84 CD21 8DPO (11th cycle ttc)
LondonLottie - 36.95 CD23 6DPO (4th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - 36.1 13DPO (3rd cycle ttc)
Honeyapple - tbc cd31 16DPO BFP! (6th cycle ttc

Not come one yet, but again another temp drop to 36.1 and still got bad period pains..So will probably come on today. If I do come on do I class that at CD1?

weepootleflump - TBC CD3 (4th cycle ttc)
Mum03 ? 36.6 cd5 (3rd cycle ttc)
Angelfire - tbc CD13 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - 36.16 CD17 (6th cycle ttc)
Iwillbepg - 36.60 CD17 (9th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.60 CD17 (8th cycle ttc)
Seaside72 - 36.84 CD21 8DPO (11th cycle ttc)
LondonLottie - 36.95 CD23 6DPO (4th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - tbc 13DPO (3rd cycle ttc)
Honeyapple - tbc cd31 16DPO BFP! (6th cycle ttc)

Morning Ladies, Hope everyone is well?? I am not a happy bunny again this morning My temp actually went down

Greedy, I would have recovered, for sure, if my temp hadn't gone down today and completely baffled me. Confused. Good luck today, try not to worry

Mum03, Of course I am not upset with you for adding my details, I skimmed the posts this morning before adding my temp, and saw Seaside had called me a lab rat and wondered what had happened in my absence Interesting that it said CD16, which is what I had ended up on myself purely from the temps and nothing else. Funny how TCOYF and FF differ Another high temp for you though, what's that all about?? Have you tested?? (What on earth has happened? I am asking about testing )

Seaside, My friends baby was born with a slight tilt in her head to one side, and she had cranial massage, is that the same thing? Really sorted her out, and apparently it works wonders for getting babies started out with everything where it should be. I think we would consider it too.

Weepootleflump, only 2 days, I hope they fly by for you

Minxi, Enjoy Dorset!! V jealous of your high temp

weepootleflump - TBC CD3 (4th cycle ttc)
Mum03 ? 36.6 cd5 (3rd cycle ttc)
Angelfire - tbc CD13 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - 36.16 CD17 (6th cycle ttc)
Iwillbepg - tbc CD17 (9th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.60 CD17 (8th cycle ttc)
Seaside72 - 36.84 CD21 8DPO (11th cycle ttc)
LondonLottie - 36.95 CD23 6DPO (4th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - tbc 13DPO (3rd cycle ttc)
Honeyapple - tbc cd31 16DPO BFP! (6th cycle ttc)

Thanks lottie - Ok I get it, I think - actually I just looked at my scribbled post it note (written in dark at 7am and actually first temp was 36.86 not .84 (doh) so guess the FF has rounded down by .01.

Anyhoo - will go with adjusted in FF as it has done the calculation - I guess it is still up which is the main thing

Thank you oh wise one!!

Just put temps into FF temp adjustor and it says temp should be 36.95?? curiouser and curiouser!