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Did you reply to his email? I really don't think you should write this month off at all, but I remember saying the same thing when I was in your boat! x

He would be so smug tee and jodders I would absolutely tell him where to go. Sadly I just don't think it will happen now.

Hi lovely ladies, I am trying to catch up.

Jem - I would just LOVE if you got PG now this month and then you can refuse sex for 9 months

Definitely due some more BFP's on this thread.

I'd happily offer a slap if I thought you deserved it, but your feelings are completely valid! Having said that, I think your instinct to forgive is the right one. Not for his sake, for yours. The 2ww is hard enough without having these feelings of bitterness hanging around. You need to look after yourself now, nothing to gain from worrying about it anymore. At least he didn't brush the evening off or accuse you of over-reacting (as per Mr Tee ), he's seen the error of his ways, and should be less likely to make the same mistake again, or will at least make an extra effort next cycle. Why do men always need hindsight?! Fingers crossed you don't get that far though. Won't he be a smug bugger if you do fall!

He has sent me an incredibly long apologetic email about how much he fucked up and how ashamed he is.

I think I need to accept his apology and go with him this weekend, but I'm finding it impossible to get over right now. Someone give me a slap

Jem he is being so unfair! Can you organise a girls night or something this weekend to take your mind off it? I hope he makes a massive apology this weekend!

Whatever has happened there is no more sex happening now. So if there are swimmers then great if not then so be it.

I can barely do any work! All I keep thinking is Fuck. You. on loop

Nim-u did well for dtd every day !! Wow- your DH can keep his initials for now glad you are ok and it's looking good for you this cycle.

We are so singing from the same song sheet ladies. This is exactly what happened to me a few weeks ago. We went through a couple of weeks not talking because of his selfish attitude. Bang on what I thought was ovulation. If you def ovulated Jem, I'd chuck in the towel too for the 2ww! I'm fed up of creeping round them, biting my tongue just for sex!
Sorry Jem, you must feel so let down. I think you covered it anyway and you may have ovulated before he went out anyway. My DH walked out and stayed in his office - I find it really childish behaviour. Liking the WH! Tee! Kkk

Agree.. Bastards!

Day 17 today tee, I will have ovulated yesterday I think, although I am still getting the odd twinge? Do your ovaries keep doing that after you ovulate? The last time we had sex was day 15.

Maybe I need to start temping. Was so determined to avoid that.

What cycle day are you Jem, you may well be safe enough to throw in the towel this month. You had some lovely DTD dates. Your faith in this cycle will creep back, I felt exactly the same as you initially. Just remember you had that acupuncture at the right time to help you build a lovely thick lining and plenty of blood flow to the uterus. How was your ewcm looking? That's the only thing that makes me sceptical about me because I didn't get much at all, and if the swimmers are in early, I feel like they need that to survive.
Easier said than done but try and stay calm, there could be the tiniest bean in there and we want to send them happy vibes. Hand this cycle over to the fate of Mother Nature and concentrate on nurturing yourself now. Can you treat yourself to something nice??
DHs can be renamed WHs for this month. Bastards!

Oh tee I'm so unbelievably upset and angry right now, I couldn't even look at him let alone have sex.

I know it sounds dramatic but a part of me will never forgive him for this. This means everything to me. How can be so selfish? I can't get my head around it at all.

Onto cycle 10.

Jem I couldn't empathise with you any more than I do right now! Our DTD pattern started the same as you, then he refused on the most important (as I deemed it) 2 evenings from when the opk peaked. In the moment I was was livid. But looking back at the overall pattern it didn't look too bad, I just had my heart set on those extra days that I'd been missing in previous cycles. Try to pick that chin up and keep going. I know it's horrible, and you feel so cross, but better you get a couple of extra attempts in between now and the end of the weekend. I couldn't wait for FW to finish to then give DH the massive cold shoulder. I don't think I've forgiven him even now, so it's nice that I'm not under pressure to suck up to him. Last night I have never seen him so drunk. Throwing up and didn't know where his wallet was. He literally disgusted me and I know I sound like an old prude saying that, but he was pissed the night before too and has a stag do this weekend... I know it's irrational, but it can't be healthy for the swimmers. He drinks so much and eats so much crap that he got gout this year, he's only 33!!
Men are selfish Jem, I hope it's some comfort for you to know that you're not alone in dealing with that. It's such a piss take considering all the effort we go to, not to mention the expense of acupuncture.
Let's hope the theory of lining swimmers up proves true for us x

He tried this morning but I was too upset and angry with him. I can't believe he's done this. I cried uncontrollably on the bus when I got my period last month , he can see the toll this takes on me month after month after month. Yet getting drunk with his friends is more important. I can't believe how selfish he is.

We are supposed to be going for a family weekend in Newcastle this weekend and I really don't think I can go. I'm so upset with him I don't even want to be near him

Hi all,

First week back to work after holidays and I'm exhausted. Been doing well with dtd, practically every day (though missed two in fw). Now I'm CD 18 and 3dpo I think.

Jem, remember it's dtd before ov day which is supposed to be the best, so swimmers are ready and waiting, your not out as they can last quite a long time. I had something similar when Dh went out, though I jumped on him the morning after and he couldn't perform.

Tee, I've got my fingers crossed for you, my test day is the 11th.

Glad your feeling better foot, good luck with school Kate.

Oh Jem! I would be really upset too!! It's so hard because they just can't understand what we are willing to have our bodies go through... what a douche. You have my complete sympathies, and I have no idea what I would do/ say when he comes home with his tail between his legs.

It is also hard putting 'normal life' on hold during TTC...

That said, we can't know what a man (soon to be father) goes through watching their baby develop and having no control there...

All is not lost! Actually it seems that dtd before ov is more effective, so there is still a chance for you!! I have been dtd on ov for the last 4 cycles and nothing, so ov sex doesn't gurantee.

First day of work was pants as soon as I walked in, but it's a long boring work thing...

Right at the most important point, it's all gone to shit. He got in drunk slurring and smelling of booze, couldn't perform, I got upset and he's now left. I don't know where he's gone. I cannot believe that whilst I put all this effort in - yoga, acupuncture, supplements, tracking, worrying, watching my diet, reducing alcohol - everything I can do - he can go out and get so drunk on the day I ovulate that we can't have sex. I'm livid.

Hope your first day back was ok Kate!
Footy glad you're a lot better. Definitely talk to your acupuncturist, I doubt it would be a case of choosing which issue they treat, don't see why they couldn't address both in one session?? Get your money's worth! I won't be able to keep it up much longer, @ £45 a pop it soon adds up!
Glad MrJem is on a promise Jem! Hope he's good to his word, my DH could not be trusted after a night on the beers. Thank God it's not FW now, I've barely seen him and another stag do this weekend.
Feeling crampy but not reading into it either way. Would love to start feeling some signs this weekend. Due on next Weds xx

Glad you're feeling better footy good idea to switch acupuncture onto your uterus, that makes nearly all of us now

Lots of ovulation twinges today reckon egg is out on the prowl. DH is going out with the boys tonight - he has been pre warned to come back willing and able

Morning ladies,
Feeling much better today but for the whole day yesterday I was very grey! Think was a 24hr bug. Appetite back with a vengeance!

I have acupuncture next week but it's for my back. I'm going to ask about switching week that is fw with a fertility program instead of back.

Temp still low for me, day 2 of the norethisterone. Fitness program starts next week along with a calorie reducing diet. My aim is to lose a few pounds week before f/w then another few pounds week of f/w. Might boost things up! Just an experiment.

Physics- hope your new class is a good one! My boys don't go back until next week.

Loving the positive acupuncture stories tee. DH had it years ago for a bad back and it sorted him out quite quickly. He is the most cynical person ever too.

Thanks ps, I'm pleased with our efforts so far. I think no matter what you though there are doubts - I find myself worrying about doing it too much. But it's not like we're going at it 3 times per day

Will keep OPK testing today to see how long the surge lasts. It's been a much more relaxed fw this cycle, hoping this makes a difference.

Hope your first day back is alright kate, early night for you tonight

Tee and Jem - maybe I should get on the acupuncture bandwagon!

CD12 - Coming up to ov at some point in the next few days? Not tracking anything other than cm and cervical position (maybe?). DH still on the bandwagon with dtd (even a Wednesday night!?). First day back at work and I've been tossing and turning since 5:30... Gr.

Fingers crossed for everyone!!

Jem your dates sound amazing!! Fingers crossed for you

Bummer Footy, that's all you need! Hope the sickness has settled down this evening.
Acupuncture was good thanks! Needles were tummy, ankles, lower legs and top of my head, so fairly similar to you this time! Again not relaxing for me but I feel very positive about the whole thing. My mum had a session after me (for her insomnia) and he said he'd do a couple of extra needles for the pain she is experiencing with her hernia. She said it took the pain away instantly! There has to be something in it. He also went into more detail with me about how good it was for fertility; apparently a study he was reading about showed women doubled their chances of falling by doing it. Incredible. Gosh Jem I'd be feeling seriously pleased with myself if I were you, that's an awesome set of DTD dates!! I seriously fancy your chances this cycle what with that and the acupuncture!!
I'm CD21 today, really hope a little bean has made itself comfy down there, although I still have the nagging feeling that we missed a couple of great opportunities. Just hoping we did enough! x

Oh footy! What a lot to muddle through. So do you think your body has been trying to ovulate all this time? Sorry you are sick too that sounds awful. I hope all of this settles down so you crack onto the next cycle.

Hello tee how was acupuncture? I've just had my second session. He put needles in my tummy, top of my feet and lower leg and one in my forehead. Felt very relaxed and still do he asked me to give the aloe Vera another go but take less and dilute it. I think I might wait to have one normal poo before I go there! My bowels seem to have stopped all together now

It's day 15 today and I had a lovely positive OPK today and lots of niggly ovary pains. All on track for me and we have DTD days 9, 12, 13, 14 so far so can't really ask more than that. Will keep going through this week to make sure we are fully covered. I do like a cycle where I feel like I've done everything I can

How is everyone else doing, summer, pepper are you still with us? Grads?