Trying to conceive for 10 months or more. Thread 5. All ten plussers welcome.

Sammylou I know how you feel, this wait is evil! I got 3+ this morning and I was as happy as I was when I first saw the lines! Good luck to everyone that is waiting on news today and tomorrow xx

Lucie - I agree with a change of thread title and moving to the infertility boards.
I lurk on some other threads and BESH have just moved over calling it a 'change to less offensive surroundings'
That's brilliant that the Accupuncture lady will come to your hotel!

Banana - I've said it before, but I think I love your consultant. So few doctors are open to trying new things! Glad the procedure went well, fingers crossed it does the trick.

It's me - I did a CB digi at 5+4 I think and got 3+. However I have read about women who've got stuck on 2-3 and had bloods of over 5000 so I think they can be a bit temperamental.

Bean - good luck in the run up to starting again. And well done Mr Bean for getting with the program and taking his vits!

Mrsren - I agree with the others about not worrying about hsg or hycosy if your dhs SA shows problems. Wait and see what his results say first.... Or book it and cancel if you can be referred for treatment without it.

Waves to Rebecca! Good luck with your ET!

AFM I keep having dreams that I've started bleeding, I wake up close to tears. Tuesday cannot come soon enough. Yet st the same time I'm terrified. Xx

Thanks Lucie. Yes, we had a good day today. We went back to the main square, wandered about a bit, then did the labyrinth tour and visited the ossuary. We're planning on going up to the lake/dam one day too. Hope you had a good day!

Hi Rebecca! Glad the EC went well, and fingers crossed for you! Will you hopefully be having a day 5 transfer? Hope you're doing ok!

Pretty nervous for day 3 results tomorrow! Trying and failing not to think about it too much!

Hi guys! Sorry for the disappearing act, I just wanted to pop my head back in ... not with a pee stick but to say a quick hello ... I've been very erratic but have ended up mostly on 'BESH relocated' thread which is in Infertility - as you guys were saying below, I just didn't want to visit the conception boards any more. I mean even just to visit you all I had to see the words 'baby dust' [shudder] Sorry if anyone uses that, I know it can be lovely and well meant but just leaves me cold.

Really thrilled to see such good news for you lucie and you MPP! Amazing! By coicidence I had EC on Monday as well. We got several fertilised and waiting to hear if we have embryos.

And banana I've been following your story's latest twists and just unable to say anything adequate except girl you are STRONG. I hope you get a lucky break soon.

Anyway, just wanted to say a quick hello - thinking of you all, and hi to anyone I haven't mentioned. xx

I think moving to infertilty is a good plan too. As Star said, the conception boards seem so far away now.

Brenna, so glad the extra kilo disappeared for you!

Hi Bean! Good to hear from you. Hope you're ok, and that this cycle goes well!

Mrsren, I have no experience with the hsg, as we moved straight to ivf after DH's SA, but it sounds as though everyone else has given you lots to think about.

Ah yes, Lucie, I remember you saying you'd had some back home but wasnt surre about here. I'll be interested to hear what you think of this lady. Wishing you all the luck for tomorrow!!

I also avoided an hsg as I had a lap and dye because I needed surgical treatment of ovarian cysts. When we then moved onto IVF consultant said she wouldn't check again (this was 4 years later) as it wouldn't impact on our proceeding with treatment.

Thanks all, lots of good advice there. Lots to think about between now and Monday's appointment!

Agree 100% on moving to 'infertility' - I never even come on the conception boards, I only ever browse infertility

RE the HSG, if having it done privately then I'd go for a HyCoSy, as it's much less painful than an HSG (so I'm told, I never had one), and it serves as both a saline ultrasound and tubal patency test.

I never actually had my tubes checked before starting IVF, but Dr sent me for a HyCoSy in June for a check out after I didn't have a proper bleed (wanted to check a good look at the endometrium, and check for any retrograde menstruation into the tubes). It was very much NOT painful and probably a few seconds of mild discomfort at worst

MrsRen - I had a HSG as part of the basic package of tests done for infertility investigations. Unlike the blood test and ultrasound I was refered for this by my local consultant not gp - that's how it works round here.

The waiting list here was I think 6 week or 2 months or so - not slow by nhs standards :)

it was by far the worst and least dignified part of the infertility / ivf journey for me and didn't tell me anything new. If I was to have ivf treatment here on the nhs (which I'm not entitled to) I would have had to have the HSG to proceed. With private treatment I didn't actualy need it.

Our infertility is probably due to low sperm volumes, but I wanted to rule out additional complications stopping us getting pregnant naturally.

I was glad i had it to know my tubes are clear etc however it wasn't plesant and Id never have one again or anything like it.

hope this helps. Good luck to you :)

I agree with you lucie and star about moving onto the infertility page - I browse the threads in there more often than conception which is filled with "is this a line" posts. 18months+ sounds appropriate too.

Nice to hear from you both mrsren and bean! Good luck with the ICSI and keep us updated bean! Mrsren I've never had HSG either, just the Hycosy so I'm no help I'm afraid!

Mrs Ren I would probably only go for a hsg if there isn't a sperm issue its not the most enjoyable of experiences. I had a hsg, then a lap and dye and I was fine - DH SA was the last thing to be done and meant we were eligible for IVF anyway.

Hi Ladies :-) just catching up on what's been going on. Glad to see there are lots of positives once again!

Banana, that sucks but like others have said your doctor sounds amazing!

Brenna, I will say to you what DH says to me - you've probably added muscle by exercising which is heavier :-)

I've been thinking about what our next steps will be with the doc no matter what the SA results are. I think it would be for me to have a HSG? I've heard that sometimes there is a very long waiting list and that not all doctors will send you? Is this an urban myth, have any of you had one?

Fingers crossed for you all X

P.s loving the pre seed and the tea is more pleasant than I thought!

MPP hooray to the fertilised eggs! Glad you're having a nice time even with the headaches - hope they have subsided a bit.

Lucie I agree with changing the thread title next time and def looking forward to a grads thread with us all on it!!

Brenna well done with all the exercise! Glad that kilo was gone this morning! Like banana said don't be hard on yourself, sounds like you are doing really well with it all to me!

Banana thanks for the reassurance really hope the wash works for you! And blimey a 34mm follie!!

Waves to everyone else! Hope you're all hanging in there.

Hi all. Have been lurking and following whilst we debated whether to go again. Now on the pill with a few days to go until period due so will be starting on d21 which I think will fall at the end of August. We will be having icsi this time after the fertilisation failure last time.
Much more realistic (read pessimistic) about the outcome this time. Still think I was so naive last time, but then again we had had 3 semi-spontaneous pregnancies and one actual baby so I just assumed it would work. That turned out to be a very expensive wrong assumption.
Anyhow so gearing up. The marvellous banana has told me what supplements to take and the manshape is even begrudgingly taking some multivits. So all systems go....

I agree on the name change. I think maybe 18mths plus? Or 12mths plus? Not sure, something that's definitely long term ttc and likely to attract ladies in a similar situation to us. Lucie, I thought you dealt with the"is this a line" post incredibly well. Kind but clear. Not her fault that she hadnt read the thread but it's not very helpful all the same.

might we consider moving to infertility? When I joined this thread id been ttc 12mths and I certainly didn't consider myself infertile (thought my bfp was right around the corner) so might not have found this, but now all the threads I lurk on are in infertility really and the conception board seems so far away from my experience. Just a thought.

Itsme, good luck with the digi today You're so right about the likelihood of needing treatment if it doesn't happen within 6months or a year

You are right Banana. I have lost that extra kilo by this morning. Phew. Everything crossed the wash works.

Itsme, the digi should say 3 weeks at 5 weeks, but don't stress if it doesn't. They are notoriously inaccurate.

Morning everyone!

Sammy and itsme, I can understand that this must be a completely nerve-wracking time for you both. I imagine there's nothing that can really put your minds at rest before your scans, but I have everything crossed for both of you. Itsme, goofd luck with the CB digi!

Lucie, forgive me if you've already said but have you had the acupuncture before? We looked at one of the posters in the clinic and said we'd maybe try it if we come out here again. I agree on the thread name change, though I've no idea what we should call it instead.

Brenna, sounds like you've worked hard on the exercise regime! When is AF due? I ask because when I was dieting for the wedding, there was one week where I was really pleased with how I'd done but when I weighed, the evil scales said I'd put on half a stone! AF arrived shortly after and when I weighed the week after she had gone, the half a stone had gone again too, along with another 3 pounds, so could it be that?

Banana, good news on the wash. I hope it helps. Again, I am amazed by how fab your doctor is about trying things. Sounds like he's almost as determined to get you there as you are! :-)

Thanks, Boris, for sharing your experience! This mornings utrogestan I took an hour ago and I think my head is ok, so maybe I've gotten used to it or something! Either that or it was a coincidence and I would have gotten a headache anyway. Hope you're good :-)

Waves to everyone else!

Lucie I agree I think it's time the thread name changed, thinking back I've been on here for about a year and when I joined I was just about ten months ttc... It also goes to show that if you aren't pregnant by ten months it's probably quite likely you'll need help as all of us have had some form of treatment now.

the 3ww for scan is much worse than the 2ww, I'm torturing myself. Worst bit is when I'm asleep at night, I replay over and over and over the consultant telling me there is nothing there - I think it's my way of trying to prep for the news but it's so unnecessary, it must sound insane as there's been nothing to suggest it hasn't worked (other than lack of symptoms) it's just such a strong gut feeling. I should have got the blood tests done.

I'll get a clear blue digi today, apparently at 5 weeks it should definitely say 3+ right?

Banana glad you've triggered. Xx

Mpp I found the ultrogestan messy at first and I head headaches too for the first couple of days - stress abd dyhydration from Ec didn't help.

Thinking of all thoes growing embryos in Tge Czech Republic lucie and mpp.

MPP fabulous fertilisation news! Hoping for some beautiful blasts on Sat. Sorry the progesterone is making you feel so rotten - but glad you're enjoying Brno.

maple fingers crossed the underdogs don't get jealous and try to join in the party! 12mm is pretty early so lining won't necessarily have thickened up just yet. Clomid can affect the lining, but if this is an issue then later in the cycle they can give you some oestrogen tablets to thicken it up. Don't think there's any cause for concern yet, all sounds like things are developing beautifully

lucie absolutely incredible news about your embryos, thrilled to bits for you. And it's so great that Reprofit will do PGS per embryo - so much more affordable that way!

star how are things with you and your follicles? Forgive me if I've missed the latest as to where you are in the 'do we or don't we' decision! Re: PGS, it's something that not all UK clinics offer and not available on the NHS. The only genetic screening available is PGD - pre implantation genetic diagnosis (vs PGS which is pre implantation genetic screening), which tests embryos for specific genetic diseases, to avoid passing on inherited conditions. That's a v different process to PGS, which is basically counting whether the embryos have the right number of chromosomes ie do they have the potential to become a person. Most clinics don't recommend it for a first cycle - it's very expensive, and so tends to be only recommended if you're older or have several failed cycles. Or, if you have a LOT of embryos. We did PGS as you know - it cost £3000 to screen 8 embryos, and £300 per each additional embryo. We screened 12 so it cost us £4200 for the testing alone. The cycle needs to be elective freeze all to have the testing done, then transfer in a FET - so there's the freezing and the FET cycle on top of the PGS testing (on top of the fresh cycle and meds). For us it was massively worthwhile, as it turned out that ALL of our frosties were abnormal. One had Turner Syndrome which would likely have miscarried fairly late in the first trimester. It's purely an embryo selection tool - it can't improve the embryo quality, it just enables you to identify which (if any) are viable

DH and I are holding up. Just. Emotions were high at the weekend, it's all very challenging and very all consuming. And because we have no kind of timetable, we've just been in limbo since, well, the miscarriage in March. We didn't know when we'd be able to cycle again, and were waiting on my body to get un-pregnant-ed, then after the cycle in May we've just been going round and round trying (and failing) to get a FET off the ground. We're just in permanent standby / permanent treatment mode. And obv the constant curveballs and disappointment are pretty wearing. We're doing our best, but as you ladies all sadly know all too well, this shit is HARD.

Big hugs to the pregnant ladies and hope the scans come around very quickly itsme and sammy. I found the 3ww till the 7w scan was more stressful then the 2ww. I think because I never thought the cycle could possibly work, I wasn't really thinking 'has the embryo taken?'. Then when I did suddenly get a BFP it became very real and suddenly there was a lot more at stake. But when you see that heartbeat for the first time - magical.

brenna Chinese will be really salty so probably retained lots of water when you stepped on the scales! Seriously impressive exercise regime - I think it sounds like you're doing really really well. Don't be so hard on yourself!

Agree on thread change of title - deffo a good idea

AFM, had the Neupogen wash this evening - was all very straightforward, I go back in 2 days for a scan to see if it's had any effect. The studies said they repeated it 48h later in some cases, so we might do another one, depending on how things look. Really hoping we see some kind of response, as desperately hoping to avoid having to end needing a hysteroscopy and copper coil.

Consultant was fab, said he'd been reading up lots about it all (doing his homework!) to prep for it, was all excitable at trying something new, and really hoped it would have the desired effect. Just have to wait and see.

Triggered when I got home - 3 follicles were around 25-28mm and one was 34mm so was about ready to pop!

I can't believe you are 18 weeks already Stealth. It only seems like yesterday you were where Itsme is and worrying about whether or not it would stick.

My sickness waxed and waned Itsme. That is quite normal. I still have everything crossed for you.

I hope you start feeling better soon MPP.

I have exercised like a lunatic for the past 10 days and been really good about my eating on all but the day when I went out for dinner, where I skipped lunch and had 2 courses at the chinese restaurant. I have put ON a kilo. My getting fit and losing weight is not going well.

I think we may be one of the few ones still trying naturally here and we are nearly at 15 months trying and knee deep in tests and plans for how we can assist without damaging DH's principles. A change of title may be a good plan.