Trying to conceive for 10 months or more. Thread 5. All ten plussers welcome.

Fab, its that part I'm worrying about the most at the moment! And thanks for the heads up on the nightie/long shirt. I wouold have just put my pjs in otherwise! Just had another email in response to my questions, and its exactly as you said, with the exception of the orgalutran, which it says to take on trigger day too, so now I'm stressing over whether they should be taken at the same time or not. Do you think I would be better starting the orgalutran tomorrow morning (so I can keep them all at the same time over the three days and not take it at the same time as the ovitrelle) and continue with gonal f in the night? Haha, I bet you'll be glad when my first cycle is over and I won't be bugging you with questions so much!! I really, really do appreciate it all.

Very exciting MPP and Lucie!! Keep me posted!

Thanks for all the congrats guys, I still think I'm going to wake up and it'll all be over :(

My scan is on the 16th August it's aaaages away!

Fab, thanks for that Lucie! Yes, I was a bit confused that they gave us a time before the second scan, but we've sorted our travel now. We're getting a (very expensive) taxi to Brno from Prague so we will be there the night before. Do we need to be there at 8.30am, or should we arrive much earlier than that? Expecting to be very tired on Monday! Do they actually knock you out at Reprofit for EC? Eeeeek! Can't believe this is really, really happening!!

Hi Star! I'm sorry to hear the clomid hasnt worked, but I've got everything crossed for this cycle for you. If not, at least you know what your next step is, and it'll fly by. I know that when I seriously started looking at Reprofit, it was around the same time as Boris was, and it felt like AGES til we could actually start and now I can't believe how fast the time has gone. I hope you are feeling ok.

Heard back from the clinic at five to three. Found it a little bit confusing! It says, and I quote, 'continue with gonal f 150 units a day. Add orgalutran 1 a day from tomorrow. You will apply pregnyl on 21.30 (CET). OPU is planned on Monday 1st August at 8.30.' I've pinged an email back because I'm not sure at what point I stop taking gonal (I have three doses left), and at what point I stop taking orgalutran. I assume pregnyl (I have ovitrelle, but its the same thing, right?) is to be taken on Saturday. Had butterflies in my tummy when I saw the email!

Ps, whether you end up doing iui or timed intercourse good luck Star!!!

AF is due in the next few days Star so just waiting for that now. I hope they let you convert to iui, definitely worth a shot and good to know you have IVF in the pipeline if you need it.

I am so so grumpy today. Always seem to sleep badly in the lead up to AF and the PMT doesn't help. Have been so short with colleagues/clients doesn't really help that I'm pretty fed up with my job, feel like I'm treading water waiting for a BFP that may never come. Hoping I will feel more positive once AF is here.

Lucie and mpp, amazing follicles!! Mpp, I can't believe you are off and I'm still pissing about with Clomid. Very excited for you, good luck with egg collection - do you know when that's likely to be yet?
Good luck for sat Lucie.

Trixie, when is your fet? Hae everything crossed for you this time around.

Banana, so sorry about your lining. Really hope you don't have to cancel this cycle. You are really due a bfp soon, you really are.

Not posted in a while so not sure if I've said congratulations to itsme! Congratulations!!!!

As for me, third and final Clomid cycle before ivf. Got my day 10 scan tmrw and going to ask if we can convert to iui. I know it's not that much better odds than timed intercourse but with the earlier motility issues, I wonder if the sperms aren't getting through the cervix and with iui and least they'll be placed right there. Worth a shot, I dunno.

My ivf appointment is 1 September but I'll be away for the start of the next cycle so it'll have to be October before we get going which will be 23 months ttc. Crikey.

Thank you. I'll pm you now :-)

oh yes, that would be fab please, if you wouldn't mind! No answer from them yet. If I haven't heard anything by 3pm, I'll phone the number.

Thanks Lucie. I've just emailed again now. Its Dr Strakova, and my co-ordinator is Tina. I've only ever emailed Tina though. I assume she passes things on. Hopefully she'll answer fairly quickly :-)

Sorry for AF Brenna.

Good luck MPP I think we were quite close to EC so hopefully you'll be fine.

ah brilliant! Thanks for all the advice! Yes, I don't think we're there early enough to give a beforehand sample for this cycle but I will definitely ask if they can freeze some for next time. Banana, your 'poo in a supermarket' analogy is brilliant!

As for the dtd, apologies for the tmi but I'm actually quite horny! I'll see how it goes...

Lucie, reprofit emailed me back asking for photos. I responded saying I didnt have any but would ask for some at fridays scan, and they havent responded again. I know I should be a bit patient, but I also keep thinking about what you said about them responding to emails early in the day, so I dont know whether to nudge them in case theyve forgotten me or hang on a bit longer, as I don't know what meds I need to do tonight.

I think the cramping is quite normal Itsme, it is just potentially a problem if accompanied by bright red blood (although even then can be fine too). From the pregnancy that got quite far compared to the ones which miscarried early there is a huge difference between the type and level of cramping associated with implantation and the placenta growing and moving compared to a threatened or actual miscarriage. They feel quite different to me, I can't really describe how, you would just know the difference. I have everything crossed for you.

That sucks Banana after everything you have been through.

Hi and welcome nowwhy. I have no advice as we are struggling with recurrent miscarriages rather than conception issues per se. There are loads of very knowledgable people on here though, who will help.

That is fantastic news Lucie and MPP. best of luck ladies.

I did yoga at the gym on Monday night and GT30 interval training last night. plus lots more cycling this week. I hurt today. AF got me yesterday as well, so we are out for this month. AT least I have time to get fit and thinner for next month.

On the sex thing, there was a scientific study which I read which explored whether you should have sex after collection and before transfer. Apparently it was proven to increase implantation rates and early cell development if your uterine environment was exposed to semen... I didn't have any soreness/bleeding or any antibiotics after egg collection so we dtd two days before transfer and without going into too much detail we were just very 'careful' .. Tbh I would be surprised if it even counted as penetration but I just wanted to make sure I had got some up there!

Sadly no sex since, I'm way too scared.

We had to freeze our eggs unfertilised on the first cycle

DH wasn't called to do his bit until I was out of theatre and hooked up to blood pressure and oxygen monitors and coming round from anaesthetic

Me coming round from anaesthetic is much like me coming round from an epileptic seizure, so being told to leave his unwell wife to go and knock one out was less than ideal

It's a bit like being told to have a poo in the middle of the supermarket. You don't need a poo. You don't want a poo. And you certainly don't want one in the middle of the supermarket

But you're being told if you don't have a poo then thousands of pounds and hopes and dreams rest on it

Our frozen eggs thawed and fertilised perfectly. The eggs were crap quality but that's to do with my hormones being crap, not being frozen

I cannot recommend freezing a sample in advance enough

We froze in advance of our second cycle for exactly that reason, as we had issues with a fresh sample on our first cycle

Having the frozen sample in the bank as an insurance policy took the pressure off and we had a great fresh sample on EC day on the second cycle

We ended up using the frozen swimmers on EC for cycle 3 as DH was really under the weather with a stomach bug so we decided just to go with the great frozen sample. They did straight IVF with it as the quality was great (didn't need to do ICSI), so wasn't any different to a fresh sample in the end

Cross post with mpp - great it went well.

In terms of stage fright, I'd be tempted to freeze. My DH had to do this prior to our EC as he wasn't able to be there on the day of EC (was travelling for work) and it was absolutely fine. They freeze the sperm in straws (gross) and then just defrost as needed.