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Anyone done or doing Clomid/ovidrel/IUI?

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Snowdog37 · 11/05/2016 11:09

Would love to hear from anyone taking this route ttc. I'm DOR and dh has low morphology but an amazing count and motility. So whenever af shows up in two weeks or so I'm starting Clomid, then doing a hcg trigger injection and then IUI. Hoping for success getting 2-3 good eggs to drop and putting the swimmers practically next to them!

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star1980 · 09/06/2016 08:39

So the tww starts! Definitely ovulated last night. Temp shot up this morning and my right ovary was making itself very well known - it's so weird to be able to pinpoint ovulation to almost the hour. Last night's sex effort was a bit laboured - it took three goes cos of performance anxiety! Couldn't believe it! Anyway, glad we got there in the end, now I just have to try and forget about it all. I'm usually fine at not even thinking about it, but now ive had treatment it's gonna be a struggle. The odds are very slim that it'll work first time, must try to remember that.

maple, glad the acupuncture went well. If nothing else it should relax you, but I do think it helps with blood flow etc so definitely worth the money. Here's hoping you get your bfp before trying iui - if not, at least you have a plan and it's not long to wait. Glad you're feeling a bit better about the friend pregnancies too Smile

Thanks Genghis. No, no test date for me just an instruction to "have regular intercourse and keep your fingers crossed for a pregnancy". I never test early - and my period always turns up right on cue so in 19 months trying I've only ever taken one test and that was just to see what a pregnancy test was like (I know Hmm) - the negative was so depressing I couldn't stop crying so ive never done it again!
Anyway, I can give you a cast iron guarantee that none of those nightmare scenarios will mean you don't start gonal f on time. I saw a super sweet thread in infertility the other week where someone's husband had thrown out her needles and loads of women offered to send her their spares through the post. So you're totally covered!!

Hope it's implantation for you snow. I wouldn't say it's too early - they say between 6 and 10dpo don't they?

Ooh that was quite a post. I'm on the train to Birmingham for work so up early and not much to do (except prepare my presentation!)

Snowdog37 · 08/06/2016 22:59

Yep it's stopped. It was literally a 50p size amount of pink spotting on a panty liner and pinkish when I wiped the last two times I peed. Still cramping a little and have that heavy pre af gross feeling. But it's way way too early for af. Test day is next Thursday (that's the official beta) but I think I'll test on Monday or Tuesday. Or Saturday before that. Lol.

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maplebaby · 08/06/2016 22:17

Has the spotting stopped now snow?? It does sound like implantation but have no experience - hoping it is!! When is test day?

Yeh acupuncture is expensive here for me too so although she said "see you next week" I booked in for 2 weeks time. Can't afford to go weekly!!

Snowdog37 · 08/06/2016 21:26

Maple I've had acupuncture and cupping, I loved both. My qi must have been constipated because after my first session of both I felt so loose and relaxed and free flowing if you see what I mean. It's expensive here but I'm trying to get acupuncture every 2-3 weeks for an hour. Totally worth it even for the relaxation aspect.

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Snowdog37 · 08/06/2016 21:18

I'm 6dpiui and spotted a bit this afternoon and I have mild af cramps and feel gross down there like af is due any minute. Sorry for tmi 😖 It's too early for anything like implantation?! Has Clomid messed my body up? Or could it be implantation ? I don't want to get excited. But wth with pink spotting?! Af is due in a week. Ugh. Let the rollercoaster begin!!!!

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maplebaby · 08/06/2016 20:56

Thanks genghis feel better today! Had my first acupuncture session - she was really nice and said I have a spleen deficiency so worked on that. Felt a bit odd. Actually a bit painful but in a weird throbbing way! But not unbearable - think it will take time to get used to!

GenghisKahnSchmitz · 07/06/2016 23:54

Welcome Julia - I'm impressed with your restraint at not testing! Here's to hoping AF stays away Wine

Star I'm glad the trigger wasn't too bad. Enjoy dtd, and I also hope the 2ww doesn't drag too much. Did your doctor give you a testing date, or anything like that? I'm afraid there'll be no surprise bfp for me this month as DP has been away. AF is due next Thurs/Fri so will start the gonal f five days later. I'm just to contact them on cd1 so they can write the prescription, organise dildocam appointments and the irrational side of me is sure something will go wrong, like sorry the doctor's away on holidays, there's been a worldwide shortage of needles so it can't be done this month or something like that. Hopefully that doesn't happen!

Maple sorry you are feeling down - it's just crap isn't it? I find it definitely harder when it's someone close. My sil instadiffed and they told me cheerily faced over skype - I couldn't get off the call fast enough. I really cried at that one, out of self pity and also for feeling like such a cow when I should have just been happy for them. I've also found that I've started categorising people into pregnancy announcement imminent/potentially moving towards pregnancy etc etc. For me it kind of helps when the announcement does come. Anyway, I hope you're feeling a bit better, and at least you have an appointment coming up soon.

Sorry this was so long!

Julia2016 · 07/06/2016 20:36

Hi Star, I won't test for a few days, I'm not sure if my cycle automatically lengthens with Clomid. I'm on day 29 today which is my normal cycle length. I don't feel pregnant though.

I conceived dd1 on our first try a few years ago without any Clomid. We have been trying for six months before I went to the doctor. I'm 36 so my gp didn't want to waste anymore time and especially when I'd tracked that I was ovulating late and not getting a decent luteal phase.

Maple it can be very hard when everyone is having babies around you. I was lucky with having dd1 so personally it hasn't upset me, but my SIL has unexplained infertility and my heart aches for her everytime one of her friends has a baby.

maplebaby · 07/06/2016 19:42

Welcome Julia not long for you to find out! I'm afraid I haven't started yet! Likely end of July and probably start off on 50mg though. Not sure if I will trigger (I hope I do) and then IUI for me.

Thank you star really appreciate it - she's my first closest friend to have one recently (all my baby bombs have been at work and FB). My other friend has a little one but he came before we started trying. I am happy for her and obviously sent a card and congratulations etc weird to think if I got pregnant first cycle I would have a 7 month old now! I'm actually a long time lurker of mumsnet but was always scared to join a thread incase I became an instadiffer and annoyed everyone!! In the end took a chance and so glad I did!!

star1980 · 07/06/2016 18:04

Maple, so sorry you're feeling down. The blues can just creep up on you on this horrible journey and when close friends get pregnant and have babies, it's just the worst. You're happy for them but sad for you and it's really hard to put a brave face on it. I totally understand what it's like. Two of my very best friends are pregnant right now and quite deliberately I've barely seen them since I found out - it's just too difficult. Just know that you have a place here to rant and moan and we'll understand and then in real life you can try and be as happy as you can for them. Although in my experience, good friends do understand if you're a little sad at their happy news (if you explain).

Welcome to our little thread julia. Oooh exciting times coming to the end of the tww. Are you going to test or wait it out a few more days? I'm on my first cycle and haven't ovulated yet so don't know what my clomid cycle length will be. I'm temping to pin point ovulation and taking a trigger to bring it on so not using pee sticks - I can't bear them! I have had no symptoms at all from clomid and I stopped the pills 5 days ago, but I was only on 50mg. How long were you trying before starting clomid? Did you use it for your first as well?

Julia2016 · 07/06/2016 14:38

Hi girls, I'll join in if that's ok. I was on one of the normal buses but I don't think it's fair on the others given I am on Clomid. I'm on it for late ovulation and short luteal phase. I'm 36, ttc # 2.

Anyhow I am at the end of the 2ww after my first month on Clomid. I ovulated this month on day 18 as opposed to day 19 without Clomid, still not great though so I don't hold out much hope for this month. I had the day 21 blood test, I definitely ovulated and my progesterone levels were high so all good there. Due my AF today if my cycle length is still 29 days.

I use the Clearblue ovulation tests, I find them good. I'm taking high dose vitamin B also to help progesterone levels.

Have you noticed your cycle length increase and do you get constipation on Clomid? I've had severe constipation since I ovulated.

maplebaby · 07/06/2016 13:45

Sorry that was such a me me me post!

Star I'm glad the trigger wasn't too bad - I think I would get DH to do mine too! Good luck with the TTC sex!! Really hope it works and the tww doesn't drive you mad!

maplebaby · 07/06/2016 13:44

Haha I know! But so glad we did because no ewcm since! Well, I did have a little bit of clear cm which was very slightly stretchy but not much. But I've been temping for the first time this month and not really seeing a dip/rise to coincide with the ewcm... Hmmm.

Feeling a bit woe is me today (well, just now)! One of my oldest friends has just had a baby (she got pregnant first month off the pill) and she knows our situation but not in a lot of detail. Just that we have been trying ages but she doesn't know about being referred etc. She was very kind about it at the time when we spoke about it (when she had just announced pregnancy). In a big whatsapp group with her and she put up photos. Obviously you would want to when you've just had a baby and i don't mind really but felt a bit Sad feel bad as she isn't even a prolific face booker so hasn't put any photos up herself (she gets tagged in them by others) and so it's not like she's making a big song and dance about it!

star1980 · 07/06/2016 13:18

Genghis, are you starting gonal f at the beginning of your next cycle? If you don't get a bfp that is. When will that be? My cycles are only 26-28 days so quite short which keeps the waiting down a bit.

Had my trigger this morning. Hurt a tiny bit, like a pinch but otherwise straightforward. My partner did it in the end - I'm not scared of needles, but couldn't quite bring myself to stab myself! Will have to get over that if it comes to IVF. No symptoms at all so far but it's only been a few hours I guess.

Well done on the late night ttc sex maple, and with your father in-law in the next room?! Needs must and all that - I'm sure he coped! Enjoy the acupuncture. I did a few sessions at the beginning of the year, but stopped when we were diagnosed with male factor and OH wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. We were also prescribed very expensive Chinese tea which was foul. It was probably doing some good but I couldn't get it down!

maplebaby · 07/06/2016 10:31

Genghis were you going to start mid June? Not long now then!

GenghisKahnSchmitz · 07/06/2016 04:02

Great news about the scan Star, and good luck with the trigger. It must have been very reassuring to hear your Dr. talking about the timings - it's so easy to wind yourself up and overthink in these situations.

I really hope the 2ww flies in for you Snow, and that you start feeling better.

Good work on dtd Maple...I'm a fellow guilt-tripper too Smile. Enjoy the acupuncture - so many people seem to enjoy it and find it beneficial.

No news from me, CD20 so just waiting for time to pass...

maplebaby · 06/06/2016 18:20

Sounds great star! Good luck with the trigger tonight! Fingers crossed for both you and snow for a bfp!

I jumped DH last night at 1am after he came back from a weekend away as I had loads of ewcm on Sunday. Felt a bit bad as I did guilt trip him a bit (he had said no to start with!) but not enough to take no for an answer Grin.

Have my first acupuncture appointment on Wednesday too and need drinking Pom juice which I read helps with lining?!

Snowdog37 · 06/06/2016 17:20

Actually I do feel kind of bleugh 😝 In that nothing sounds good to eat and I don't have much appetite. Assuming this is the joys of ovidrel too!

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Snowdog37 · 06/06/2016 17:17

I'm 4dpiui now and the ovidrel is still in my system. I'm a fart machine. My dh can't stop laughing at me. So attractive! My boobs are bigger too still. Hoping the ovidrel is out of my system by the weekend. I'm not sure what I feel, it's too early for any conception related things. Time is so ridiculously slow!!!!
How's everyone else?

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star1980 · 06/06/2016 16:55

Hey maple, I just logged on to update you guys. Thanks for asking!

So day 10 scan this morning went well. Two follicles - 15mm and 19mm. Lining 8.9 triple-lined Confused.

Anyway, the Dr says I can trigger whenever fits in with my schedule so I'm thinking of doing it tonight. She says it's unlikely, but not impossible, that the smaller follicle contains a mature egg so there's a chance of twins but hopefully v small. We asked about when to have sex given my partner's results. She was very positive about the results and said they are not bad and definitely conducive to conception so wouldn't affect her advice, so I feel very positive about that. She said try to time it so there's sperm in the 'genital tract' before ovulation, which will be 36 hours after the trigger. But she also said not to worry about it too much and just to have regular intercourse. So no clear instruction, but her point was that if you over plan it can lead to performance anxiety (which we've definitely had before!) So I think we're going to try and do it 2 or 3 times between now and ovulation.

Hmm, given today's appointment I'm feeling very much like this has to work, but then I have to remember my age (35) and egg quality and the fact that even very fertile couples only have a 20% chance of conceiving in any one month. And if we've proven anything over the last 18 months it's that we are certainly not "very fertile"!

Hope everyone else is doing well. Snow, how are you doing? Are the effects of the trigger wearing off?

maplebaby · 06/06/2016 15:11

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maplebaby · 06/06/2016 15:10

How did try scan go today star?

Snowdog37 · 03/06/2016 13:27

sperm not sorry darn autocorrect!!!!

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Snowdog37 · 03/06/2016 13:27

Oh and for my IUI they used 1ml of his sample and in that 1ml there was over 75 million sorry of which 37 million were motile and awesome looking. So the 3 months of pills really does make a difference!

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Snowdog37 · 03/06/2016 13:25

I had to have a coming to god talk with dh about supplements. I bought him the uber expensive ones that the dr requested he take. I said think of it as medication to keep you and your swimmers in tip top shape. I don't think he realized it matters so much until he flunked his first analysis (let them get too cold en route to the lab) and thought he might have heaps wrong with his swimmers. The second analysts was after he'd been on the meds a few weeks and revealed awesome counts and motility but poor morphology. The dr said keep taking the supplements as they'll keep the count and motility super high so the morph won't matter as much. He's on board now. His first count was something like 120 million but 0.5% motile (as they were dead, poor things) but 6 weeks on his count was 320 million with 65% motility so his 1-2% normal morph still meant 3.2-6.4 million good ones which is fantastic. So long story short: the guys need to do their part and take supplements etc too. They're providing 50% of the equation and if their goods are crap they need to do something about it.

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