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TTC after miscarriage thread #4

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InsufficientlyCaffeinated · 29/04/2016 14:11

Hello ladies. I noticed the last thread filled up, seemed to happen all of a sudden! Hoping you find your way here (prepares for tumbleweed)

For reference here's thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2593041-TTC-after-miscarriage-lucky-thread-number-3

All those we are trying to conceive a child after miscarriage are welcome here, whether it's your first or you already have DC

Good luck ladies. Let's have some BFPs, we've earned it

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AmyB1986 · 08/06/2016 09:57

Bertie that's what I was unsure of. I don't know if taking any vitamin is a good idea apart from taking folic acid like the dr recommends or folate as newshoes said. Vitamin a in excess has been linked to birth defects and miscarriage that's also another reason I take the preconception vits as they don't contain vitamin a. They have b12 and b6 in them along with iron, vit d and zinc.

The weather is lovely here again I can't stand the heat though.

INeedNewShoes · 08/06/2016 09:35

Thanks for everyone's thoughts on vitamins.

Feel free to ignore this next bit... I know all the different advice out there can get a bit much!

One thing I've been reading about is that it's better to take Folate than Folic Acid as our bodies can't metabolise Folic Acid as efficiently and we end up with excess in our bloodstream.

A science-y link: jn.nutrition.org/content/136/1/189.short

And a link that us mere mortals can understand without getting a headache: chriskresser.com/folate-vs-folic-acid/

BertieBotts · 08/06/2016 08:44

It's not true for all vitamins that bodies expel what they don't need. Anything water soluble will because it can come our in urine but anything fat soluble won't be able to exit so easily. For example you should not take too much vitamin A in pregnancy. That said most multivitamins are likely to be fine, just don't take lots of different ones at once unless they all contain different things.

JustineLittle · 08/06/2016 08:09

I only tried to see my GP when I found out I was pg and they refused to see me twice. I thought it's the first thing you do, but they told me to just wait 4 weeks for my first midwife appointment on both occasions.
Also, last time I wanted to see my GP and talk about a potential early scan but, the same, the nurse called me back and talk to me about it over the phone when I was already miscarrying.
I think I will try to make an appointment now and insist on some basic tests.
Thank you for your advice! Xx

doleritedinosaur · 07/06/2016 23:42

Justine will your GP not do some basic blood tests now to rule some common causes? Such as thyroid & clotting.

Sorry if you have posted that already have.

JustineLittle · 07/06/2016 23:36

Well done Amy! I'm also looking forward to TTC soon, can't wait for this period to finish.
I've doubled folic acid, also bought walnuts and soya milk for more vit B and I'm taking vit D.
If it doesn't help, it doesn't help.
One more MC and I hope to be tested.

AmyB1986 · 07/06/2016 22:48

Hi all hope you're all ok...

Purple I understand how you feel, I turned 30 in April and keep thinking time isn't on our side now I've gone into my 30's. I know plenty of people who have conceived in their 40's though, after battles with fertility treatments my neighbour conceived naturally unexpectedly after giving up! Her daughter is 5 now.

On the subject of vitamins, I was taking folic acid before my mc but started taking seven seas preconception vitamins after. They contain the guideline amounts of vitamins. I'm not sure if taking too much of a certain vitamin can affect anything though, I'm sure our bodies expel what isn't needed. I also take 60ml of an aloe juice drink to help with absorption. It has cranberry in it and since I'm prone to uti's and its specially designed for the renal and digestive systems I thought it wouldn't hurt to try it. I don't really feel any differently for taking the vitamins but the aloe drink has reduced my bloating.

I'm cd15 now and I think I've ov'd or I'm about to. I've not had any ov pains this month though. I had a slight pressure and twinge in my left last night but that's it. Tmi but I've got so much ewcm I'm having to wear a pad as its wetting my underwear! I had a temp rise today but not mega, will see what that does over the next couple of days. We've dtd every day for the last 4 days and will continue to as my sex drive is through the roof still, has been since mid af!

JustineLittle · 07/06/2016 22:33

Fingers crossed Miami, hope Sunday was just fine for you this month!

I've also started reading about progesterone cream but I'm still unsure.

Miami81 · 07/06/2016 22:13

I have been taking a b vitamin complex since the mc and also some magnesium. Don't know if it helps or not but I don't seem to have been as drained physically after the mc as I know some people have mentioned.
I think I am getting ovulation pains at the moment, DH is away, so annoyed. We dtd on Sunday but just don't feel like this cycle will be ours!!!

BertieBotts · 07/06/2016 21:28

There are useful herbal/vitamin supplements for TTC, I can't remember them now as I just went with folic acid in the end but definitely for DHs, mine wanted us all to take vitamins so DS wouldn't think it was strange (!) so I researched it (just googled a few articles and picked the most commonly mentioned ones)

Recommendation is 800 micrograms folic acid, at least it is here in Germany. I'm sure it was 400 when I had DS so either it's different in Germany or they have changed it.

Alb1 · 07/06/2016 20:51

purple I understand how you feel, I turned 27 a few weeks ago and although it sounds illogical I'm just so worried it won't happen for us now that I'm abit older, even tho we're not old at all really.

Around here when pregnant were given vitamins by the midwife to take and it's just folic acid, vitamin c and vitamin d and they advice it to be taken all through pregnancy. Currently I'm just having a berocca a day and folic acid, although berocca isn't recommended in pregnancy so I'm not really sure if it's good to take when ttc really

JustineLittle · 07/06/2016 19:40

I was also thinking if there are any natural supplements to support pregnancy.
I'm going to TTC again next week and I'm only on Pregnacare.
I took baby aspirin last time but didn't work.
I'm still cramping a bit today after my second MC at 5+4, on my CD5 today. I hope it stops now...

purpleviolet1 · 07/06/2016 17:37

Thank you for your kind words xx

doleritedinosaur · 07/06/2016 17:31

Ineednewshoes my GP just suggested Folic acid to me but I thought it couldn't hurt to take extra ones plus I read up on natural supplements for progesterone which could help.

You can overdose on vitamins but it's very, very hard & I doubt on the doses you're taking you are.

We absorb vitamins & minerals poorly anyway for example iron is only absorbed 20% when you take a tablet & that increases slightly if you take it with vitamin C.

Aw purple it is hard & you are young so it is good to have time on your side. I was 27 when I had my first & hopefully your time will come soon.

There's about 4 birth announcements due this month & 2 of my friends are on their second babies & it's frustrating to me that I'm not there yet but then I think I can offer my DS so much one to one time at the moment & then feel guilty as I want a second one so bad.

Merdie · 07/06/2016 17:02

Hello purple - just wanted to offer you a virtual hug. It's so hard with every pregnancy announcement I hear, even with people I love and am very happy for, I end up in tears for a bit in private and just have to ride it out. Flowers and a Brew

The one thing I hope this long journey will offer me is greater patience with the child or children we one day might look after. If it had happened on cycle 1 I might never have learned this kind of patience, it's definitely been the hard way of doing it.

I think you definitely have loads and loads of time ahead of you, although it's definitely hard to think of it that way - try to relish it if you can and use it to learn everything you can and do everything you want to. Seriously, it'll make you a better mummy for when the time comes!

purpleviolet1 · 07/06/2016 16:44

I'm really silly in that I get caught up in that it needs to happen ASAP but really in the grand scheme of things, I'm 26 and it doesn't really make the a difference if it takes a bit longer to happen. I cause myself loads of stress by thinking like this Sad

INeedNewShoes · 07/06/2016 16:34

Thanks for the welcome to the thread Smile

Can anyone direct me to useful information about what dose of vitamins to take for TTC?

I can't take Pregnacare or similar because they contain ingredients (like soya) that I'm allergic to, so I've been taking Folic Acid, Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Vitamin E separately.

But I suspect I might be taking too high a dose of C, D and E. Is it possible to have too much!?

And are there any other key vitamins I should be taking in light of having miscarried a couple of times?

purpleviolet1 · 07/06/2016 16:16

Just heard a friend (who happens to be my second cousin) is pregnant. She had health issues at roughly the same time as me and although we hadn't talked about children I assumed she would be waiting till her health was a bit better. However she is 6 months gone and it's just hit me a bit. Hopefully our time will come soon!!!

BertieBotts · 07/06/2016 15:06

INeedNewShoes thank you for your response! I think DH is still finding it harder than I realised. His best friend and my best friend got together last year and have just had a surprise baby who is now three months old and the most gorgeous perfect adorable baby I've ever seen except my own! So he finds it hard that every time he plays games with his friend he can hear the baby in the background. I was finding it hard seeing my friend's pictures on facebook but was able to just avoid it for a bit and I feel okay with it now.

Anyway it's funny - we were talking about the games and I said I felt like every step of conception for us is like levelling up! We got to level 1 - first pregnancy test - then level 2 - stronger pregnancy test - and level 3 - blood test, etc. I did feel very much like that last time, like it was a wait and see if we get past this milestone kind of thing.

doleritedinosaur · 07/06/2016 14:41

Hi everyone, hope everyone's having a good day.

I'm in the do I try this month or next month limbo.
Had 2 chemicals in December & January then a 5/6 week miscarriage in March.
GP has done all her tests with normal results & seeing consultant in August.
Taking all the vitamins, plus aspirin daily & lowered caffeine/no alcohol.

Just not sure if to do another "normal" month or try again.

My DS was so easy & it's confusing now why second pregnancy is so hard.

Merdie · 07/06/2016 12:27

Thank you for the welcome caffeinated, and I can relate a bit - anxiety's such a pain isn't it?

I'm having a really long episode of food issues where I can't swallow stuff easily if I've never had it before (I get weirdly worried about being allergic, which happened maybe twice, years ago!)

Last night I finally managed to make myself swallow the vitamin D which was prescribed in March!

Insane and probably need help but seems the least of my worries right now. I'm just saying I know full well how long it can take to make yourself do something when you don't want to, but best advice is just to brace yourself and do it and scream inside the whole time!

So do call them and book, if there is an issue you can work on it fast; otherwise you'll just be mentally beating yourself up anyway and thinking "was it something I did?" (Doubtful btw). Flowers

InsufficientlyCaffeinated · 07/06/2016 12:15

Welcome Justine, Merdie, and Alb (and any other new comers I might have missed, have some catching up to do).

I've started using Evening Primrose Oil for my period pains but interesting to read about it potentially being useful for conception so I'm keeping on it until day 14.

Really don't know where I am or what's going on any more so I've given up trying to figure it out. AF has now finished although after it's late and weird start it then went AWOL for a day and came back again so no idea what this cycle will be like. Have to get my thyroid tested again this month. Was planning on seeing GP once I have results to start the process of figuring out what's going on now that it's been a year but, and I know this is ridiculous, I'm scared of finding out that something is wrong with me! I know I could equally find out that there is nothing wrong and it's just taking a while, or that the problem is something easily fixable but being a fatalist I've convinced myself they'll find something terribly wrong and it'll all be my fault because I made a bad choice years ago or something. I know, I know, ridiculous. That's anxiety for you

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JustineLittle · 07/06/2016 08:10

Hello Ladies,

I would like to join, as well!
Feeling a bit down after my second MC. At least this one was early 5+4, first one was 11+6 and it took me 3 months to recover.
I've been getting pregnant easily both times, not tracking really, but those babies just don't seem to want to stay with me and I'm more determined now.
I'm 32.
Hope we can stay positive together xx

purpleviolet1 · 06/06/2016 18:45

Hi everyone, welcome to the new people and so sorry for your losses.

Mrs - really feel for you. I'm a bit like you - decided to not put life on hold anymore. I'll still keep posting though and keep a rough eye on AF due date etc. I won't be testing until AF is absent though and I've never really tracked ovulation or temps anyway. It's just a matter of dtd as often as we can and getting through the month.

Just back from a nice break and straight into work today. Had booked tomorrow off for my midwife appt! But I'll just take the day to chill..bitter sweet.

My gran is better thanks for asking.l! I've not been to visit her yet but will do that tomorrow. My mum tells me she is definitely on the mend.

It's so warm I feel my skin is sweating. Do you think it's hormone related as well? Might put a nice facemask on.

Hope everyone is well xx

Merdie · 06/06/2016 17:56

Hello everyone ... I hope you don't mind me joining? (Albeit late in the thread).

I'm so sorry for all your losses Flowers.

MrsUnsure, I know we haven't chatted on here before but I really feel for you and know the value of a long break; it's done me some mental good and I hope it helps you too, whatever the long term outcome.

Right now we're trying again after a 7 month break, following 18+ months in which we had 4 MCs (three so soon they were practically chemicals, one a bit more advanced).

We're about to be in the 2 week wait again and I'd (almost) forgotten what this felt like.

I was looking at a newbie thread and thinking wow, two years ago that was me. It's strange how time goes by so fast and yet so slowly isn't it?

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