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Oh karry that's so exciting! Really really hope this is the one for you fingers x'd I know you should try not to get carried away but guessing you can't help it, test again tomorrow see what it comes out with, why are you on the pessaries? baby dust

Biggest hugs, snowy

Garden, I know someone who had the fallopian tube check recently - she was petrified beforehand but said it was actually not as bad as expected. She was advised to take painkillers before going so went to boots and got some super strength ibuprofen/paracetamol combo (ask the pharmacist) x

I took a test on Friday at around 10-11dpo (because of the steroid programme I'm on, it has to be that early) and I got a faint positive trying not to get too carried away just yet but sitting tight. I've had to start progesterone pessaries nightly (part of the treatment) and will go for an intralipid iv on Monday. All a bit of a whirlwind.

Thankfully we're busy buying paint and random house things today so I'm staying somewhat distracted.

Hi all, sorry for been quiet.. I'd dropped off the feed abit. I've been on my holidays and just had some time generally trying to not think about things.

We're still going for the ICIS which is a form of IVF and generally think that's the only thing that may work.. I've given up hope on anything else working 😳

Currently on day 58 and thought AF was coming as felt abit crampy last few days on and off but she hasn't arrived yet!!

Snowy, d/w you are now part of a cycle, try not to get stressed out about it too much as it will not help, you need to go through the motions - at least it is a step closer, has anyone discussed why you are not conceiving naturally?

Hey Garden, thanks for the reassurance, I am on cycle day 50, and have never got a positive OPK no matter when I test. How long did it take for your referral to come through? I have an app on the 4th and going to try and get referred.

Hi TMI26 !

We have been referred, had our first appointment at the clinic about a month ago and during that they did an ultrasound - which was great, no problems. But I've got to have an x-ray on Fallopian tubes as routine this coming Monday, which I'm not looking forward to - after that, our next appointment is ages away, on 27th July. Basically it's unsettling because due to the invasive test, we can't even start to try again for a month, and I'll be nervous to see what the consultant says and what the plan might be - don't know if I'll be on mood-changing medication from then on, or from period after that, or whether they'll start me on ivf maybe (as I'm nearly 40...)
...all of the above has had me really stressed out actually.
But!! The weather has improved and I'm feeling a bit more like enjoying life regardless.
When the big obsession takes hold it's as if life is on hold - but it isn't really I guess, and I feel happier when I remember that the birds are still singing and the sun is still shining and life goes on, basically. It's so sodding hard to feel that some days - really - but it's easier and much happier when that philosophy can take hold.... For me anyway.

I'm sorry you are worried you're not ovulating. I'm sure a specialist might put you at ease - it might be that you're ovulating earlier than expected - I'm always a bit forward of the calendar date. Otherwise, I think Clomid sorts it out (?) not that you'll necessarily want that (I might be in the same boat and I've mixed feelings about it...)

Now, I know that so-called solutions of herbal stuff and dietary things are quite unwelcome, and often ill-advised (and I'm no hippy, whatsoever) but I have been trying to cheer myself up by researching really great foods to eat - there are some ace things out there that give your body a boost and make you feel better... Not dodgy herbal potions, but lovely fruit and veg and personally I'm now trying to reduce my bread intake as I think I was eating too much - and it's just a small step that makes me feel proactive...
Sorry if that sounds like rubbish advice - we all so want to help!!! I'm clutching at straws a bit and am happy to admit it, but I do feel a bit happier in myself in cooking really lovely food and doing just a little bit more exercise - I feel a bit brighter and a little less stressed, which is a step in the right direction in itself.

(Sorry for going on a bit... Just trying to help!)

Good luck everyone, strive to enjoy the summer and the flowers and the daylight - it's a lovely time of year when things can grow!

Fear ye not - and strive to be happy

xx

So went for my blood test at the private clinic today, and found out that (even after them telling me that it would take 7-10 days for my consultation) I won't see a doctor until 26th July - now part of that is because of my hols but it is also there was no chance of 7-10 days. Actually cried the whole time driving home, I just felt like it is just one delay after another . Trying to look on the bright side, I now have 1 more cycle to conceive naturally, but finding it hard to be optimistic right now

Oh I know, I'll have a ball Pirsy and there could be no better distraction in the TWW than swanning around the south of France

Garden you are right - its like you hear lots of people say that had given up and then it happened. I confided in a couple of people at work today and did feel better for it. One of the girls said that it took them a long time and she cant really think about the whole TTC period now because it was so difficult.

Snowy you will have a great holiday and even if AF comes while you're away you wont care I promise because you'll be enjoying yourself.

TMI we are having a Howden's kitchen. That's the company our joiner uses so we've gone with it but we're not having their appliances - we're picking those ourselves. It does sound like an ovulation problem from what you've described - I would push for a referral. Dont worry too much there is plenty they can do to help with that.

Snowy, great that there is a silver lining to look forward to, doesn't matter how you get your BFP so long as you get it! Nine months to get an appointment, that sounds ridiculous, is that NORMAL?

Pirsy, no getting stressed out, remember it makes it more difficult! And job every time, there is more control in the cooking, if you don't mind me asking who are you getting your kitchen from? Looking for something reasonable whilst ticking all the boxes,

Garden, have you been referred yet?

I've been doing a lot of reading (dangerous I know) and have self diagnosed myself, I think I know what my problem is - I'm not ovulating, it would explain the low progesterone, negative OPKs and irregular periods the thyroid is a by product of it (totally sure of this) but it's taken them so long to figure out I have low progesterone it feels like I have wasted a year, the aim now is to just harass my GP until they refer me or do something about it, hubby and I are booked in for the 4th of July but that seems like an impossible time to wait.

The wait is ridiculous Pirsy, I have been told that it will be August at a minimum before I receive an appointment, wish I had known this earlier.

I am on the countdown to my holidays now, just under 3 weeks, can't wait to get away and forget about TTC for a while, although next AF will be due when I am away so am sure it will still be at the back of my mind

Hello Pirsy,

That's just how I feel....

In films or stories, the hero often gets brought really low, either by an adversary or something he can't control - there's always a moment when you wonder if he or she will actually make it (loads of stories follow this pattern!) - then, wow they succeed!
Often when you're at your lowest, it's actually the start of the turn of your luck, whether you know it or not.
It's just giving you something to remember when you succeed - something to look back on and think, wow I really earned that!!

I'm in just the same boat - I'm always happy when I wake, until the realisation of my frustrations sets in... I'm quite frightened each month as the prospects seem lower every month (I burst into tears in the doctors yesterday because the lady before me had just been told she was pregnant - the lady on reception was congratulating her) but I try and remember that hope is like a seed that you've got to feed and keep growing - hope can make things happen, keep it warm and close

Snowy sounds like things will move pretty quickly for you now. The NHS wait in your area sounds excessive - I def would have gone private too.

Garden dont lose hope - my aunty had a baby at 43 so it can happen.

Another one here doing house renovations! Ours are in full swing now - hopefully it wont be too much longer until we can move in. Big question at the mo is whether to have a range cooker or a hob and oven?!

Having come back from holiday all relaxed I now feel super stressed. I didnt sleep well last night - was awake worrying about how Im going to feel if my period comes, then how hard IVF is going to be and generally feeling miserable about infertility. The longer it goes on the less likely I think it is to ever happen.

Oh that's way too long to wait!!! Oh gosh, sorry you've had that wait, that's rubbish... Glad you're signed up for alternative. Seeing the consultant will be really good for mind as well as body. Good luck Snowy!!

Garden we started to go for treatment in NHS, referral letter was sent in December, I had day 3 and 21 blood tests and DH had SA and all results came back ok (well DH was on the low side of normal but doc said it wouldn't be a problem) and then we were told to wait for our appointment - still waiting. So have decided we've waited long enough. I am having a AMH blood test on Thursday and then we should see a consultant within a week.

Big hugs to all - sounds like it's been a crappy month xx

I had and strange brown discharge late yesterday and this morning...seems to have gone now I dare hardly hope that I'll get a bfp in the same month that I was due to give birth thankfully we're up to our ears in house renovation stuff so I'm trying to stay distracted!

I've got my cousin's baby shower in a couple of weeks...determined to have a nice time..through gritted teeth

Welcome Jj and AG to the Ttc club!

Pirsy great to hear you had a lovely holiday, well overdue one!

snowy sucks about AF rearing its head, but onwards and positive thinking now....sweet of your mum to offer to pay for the treatment hope it is a success for you, DH and I have just purchased a house (completing next week hopefully) and it requires gutting out and redoing completely so there is no money in the kitty :( I think we are just going to keep trying, they have upped my mg of thyroxine which hopefully should balance my thyroid out further..... I received a phone call from the docs saying my bloods have arrived and that I need to book in for a 'routine appointment' - not sure what that means am on CD 43 and getting nervous as I would like AF to arrive....If nothing happens I guess the next few months will be full of tests, prodding and poking, In more positive news, my sister shared her baby making worries with me (13 years ago, when I was too young to understand or appreciate the worries of Ttc!! ) she was told she would NEVER be able to have children due to her severe PCOS, she was given clomid only to have it taken away from her as it was dangerous for her condition but a year and a half after trying she fell pgnt with baby number 1, she now have 3 children! - so just goes to show, if it's meant to be it will be

Hi Snowy - it's sh** isn't it... I don't feel like I've got much time left as I'm 40 later in the year - but I'm assured that I've got more time than I thought...
What stresses me is the head-mess. I feel SO bitter. My brother and his wife had a baby recently and I've virtually shut him off. One of my best friends is pregnant and it's taken me two months to see her. I know that's not right - but it's the sad fall-out of terrible frustration that knaws at me constantly.
I think essentially it's impatience that I'm suffering.
I've only just started period today so I'm especially emotionally raw just now.
I was really convinced that I'd be pregnant and I wanted to surprise my husband tomorrow (on Father's Day) with a positive test.
He puts a brave face on - I never really wanted children until I met him, only met him last spring and we were married by the summer... And he's more broody than I am but he's a kind man and he just supports me - and that also makes me sad that I'm not more brave.

Did I note you were starting treatment? We started treatment in February, although haven't actually seen a consultant yet - so many tests... They're all fine by the way, although this week (seeing as I didn't conceive his month) I've got to have the Fallopian tube x-ray but I'm sure it can't be worse than the dentist. Over pretty quickly.
The first time we actually went to clinic for our first appointment I had an ultrasound - which was great!!! It was wonderful to see everything and I was given a full bill of health (the fallopian exam is just routine).

Anyway - I hope you'll feel good when you start stuff rolling at the clinic - I did, I think a lot of people get pregnant just because of the relief that there IS help out there (just sitting in the waiting room seeing people just like me did help my state of mind!!)
If you're private it'll all go faster than our clinic, NHS and quite slow...

Good luck to you Snowy and it's very likely you'll bag some good luck shortly after you sign up for help - it's really common!!!

OMG, I've just been doing some research ref pregnancy and labour (what else on a Saturday night when ttc lol) and I saw a photo of a placenta. Freaking hell I had no idea it was that big and organ like looking. I mean, I had no idea what I had imagined or was expecting but that definitely wasn't it. The thought of that coming out after birth is more horrifying than the baby coming out something so small

I know how you feel Garden I am on cycle 21 of trying (although the first 6 months was just stopping the pill and letting nature take its course) so I understand how frustrating it is

Pirsy glad you had a nice holiday, your deserve it. Fingers crossed the relaxation will have done the trick

Hi ladies,

On the way back from my lovely holiday and just catching up. Sorry about the AFs Snowy and Garden. Good to hear you are moving forward with the clinic Snowy. My holiday was really good, very relaxing and I think it fell over my FW. If Im not pregnant this month then I am just giving up and waiting for IVF because I think this was def our best shot!

After 5 days of 'knowing' I was pregnant, (dizziness, mild cramps, incredible sense of smell, very vivid dreams, unusually frequent headaches - and that feeling of just KNOWING) my period came 1 day early.

Thanks a lot Mother Nature.

I'm livid. Really, really pissed off. I'm really hacked off with feeling like I can't trust my senses.

After 1 year of trying and now staring down the barrel of treatment, I'm really hacked off.

Have my first appointment with clinic on Thursday TMI, there is one more blood test they need me to do before any consultations, so am going in for it on Thursday and hope to have consultation the following week. If it wasn't for my parents I wouldn't be able to go private, my mum offered me the money to do it and after a lot of thinking about I decided it was too good an offer to not accept

Hi AGnu,
Gosh I feel a bit like that. I'm due period on Monday and have felt a bit queasy for last couple of days and had heartburn after eating for 5 days now, and a bit dizzy...
I did a test actually - couldn't resist as I DO feel strange. But it was negative so I'm in bed now sulking. Too early I guess... I've also been having crampy feelings but not as cramps that come on, grip and go, more that they build gradually to a wider, general ache. And have had random twinges in abdomin and boobs, little stabby pains.
Frustrated. Impatient am I!
Good luck!!

Can I come play too? I'm 7dpo, cycle 1 TTC DC3. I've had weird cramps on & off since I ovulated & very low appetite for a few days. I've been eating mostly as normal but then getting a stomach ache. Just now I had a momentary twinge in my shoulder & had a spilt second panic that I might have an ectopic... I'm really good at catastrophising imagining symptoms!

With both previous DC I had symptoms at 7dpo so I've been jumping at every minor twinge today! So far I've felt dizzy stood up too fast while having an empty stomach, queasy hungry & almost sort of felt like my uterus was stretching or something needed a wee. I need a different hobby!