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The craziness that is TTC after stopping the pill. On this thread we have 100 day cycles, do weeks of opks and send ovia into a fit with our ever changing fertile windows! Welcome.

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Sunnydays321 · 29/01/2016 07:12

Hi ladies,

This is the 2nd thread following on from

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2452018-Waiting-to-try-and-cycle-a-mess-from-the-pill

For everyone who is entering the madness that is Ttc after stopping the pill. Maybe to start the thread we could all post our stats, so we remember where everyone is at and don't have to check the old thread. X

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Cookie22 · 31/01/2016 11:30

Morning everyone! Another flashing smiley for me! Had tiny bit of ewcm yesterday too so I think I'll hopefully hit my peak soon! New girl I'm using IC OPKs too to confirm the fade up/fade out. I totally know what you mean tho, CB can be a bit misleading as you can't pin point exactly when the egg pops as it doesn't allow you to retest after your static! I'm sure the 8 tablets of Agnus will be absolutely fine in the low dose New Girl. I have the 1000mg and have only been taking 1 a day, though it says on the packet to take 1-2 per day!

Hopefully ov comes soon for you Yvonne. The wait is horrible isn't it! How long was your last cycle?

Planet, i know what you mean about the false start symptoms! When I had my 56 day cycle I kept thinking AF was on her way & also felt like I was on constant 'red alert' at my work lol! Kept running to the loo to check it didn't randomly appear. Though I do still feel like this as my cycle is still fairly unpredictable! Once I get into day 30/31 it could pop up anytime!

Shan- loving your positivity! Today is the last day of this long, post Xmas blues month then it's Bfps all the way! Who's all in the tww? Sunny have you felt anything yet? Xx

Yvonne1986 · 31/01/2016 10:43

Cd 25 today no sign of OV still looks like another long cycle for me Sad

Thinking of increasing my Agnus cactus I take 1000mg 1 per day so maybe I should be taking 2?! X

Yvonne1986 · 31/01/2016 10:42

Cd 25 today no sign of OV still looks like another long cycle for me Sad

Thinking of increasing my Agnus cactus I take 1000mg 1 per day so maybe I should be taking 2?! X

eggsinthefridge · 31/01/2016 10:28

I always have false starts planeteer. That's why I always seem to pee through so many IC's and opks! I promised myself no unnecessary testing, but I can't seem to keep that promise.

shankate182 · 31/01/2016 10:14

OK girls February is our month for our BFP
Baby dust to everyone 💜
AF is killing me here atm heavy heavy heavy it is :( roll on like 3 more days and then TTC cause if I miss ov this month I'm stopping 😅

Planeteer · 31/01/2016 00:09

Evening all, hope your Saturdays have been lovely. Cd 66 for me at the moment, and have had a couple of days of spotting and cramps, so assumed AF was on her way. Nothing today though and am now even more confused! Anyone else had 'false starts' with AF on long cycles?

NewGirl2015 · 30/01/2016 23:31

Such a good idea bobo I am definitely copying that!

Cookie i'm using the CB ones as well, but going to use the cheapies as well this month as I don't think I ov'd within 48 hours of my peak. CB are great because they are clear but once you get that static there is no fade in/out which you get with the cheapies, which I think killed me into a false sense of security that that was it, Ov was definitely on its way! Glad to hear you're getting in fine with 100mg B6.

Just started taking my Angus cactus today, but I've inadvertently bought a really low dosage so having to take about 8 tablets Hmm haha!! Ordered some 400mg ones from Amazon.
What dose does everyone take?
I've read to take 800mg 2 X per day which is what I was going to do
xx

Sunflower1985 · 30/01/2016 19:52

Thanks Sunny and Newgirl

Bled 1 day after stopping pill. Normal length and perfect 27 day cycle. Smuggy smugness. This one is 29 days so far.
From what I'm reading it's not unusual for cycle lengths to increase. Hmm

Good luck everyone. Sending positive thoughts.

cockermum85 · 30/01/2016 19:19

CNChapmanxx you're advice to relax is spot on. We're only just starting our journey TTC but I feel like I've spent the past 4 months preparing for it, trying to figure out my cycle. I'm frustrated and angry that it's not regular.

DH and I fell out the other light because he has to work away a bit in Feb March and April, and I just know it'll not work with my cycle. He can't plan dates to work with my cycle because it's quite irregular (or seems to be) does anyone have a crystal ball I can borrow?

Cookie22 · 30/01/2016 17:58

You're so organised Bobo, what a great idea! Yea the CB ones are quite dear! I think I was about £15 for the original box with 10 sticks. I managed to get refills off eBay this month tho a lot cheaper and use the same digital holder from my original set, so it wasn't too expensive Smile xx

BoBo90 · 30/01/2016 17:06

Newgirl- yeh I stick them all in with the times written next to them. It used to be my wedding planning book and now it's my secret pissy stick book Grin cycle 1 has taken up a whole page already!

That's great cookie! Fx for a static smiley tomorrow Smile I really want to try the smiley face ones but better wait until my cycles are a bit more predictable or I will end up spending a fortune!

The craziness that is TTC after stopping the pill. On this thread we have 100 day cycles, do weeks of opks and send ovia into a fit with our ever changing fertile windows! Welcome.
Cookie22 · 30/01/2016 16:50

Ps new girl, my Agnus says that too! I just take it until I ov then stop! I also take the full 100mg of b6 and have had no side effects whatsoever! Also loving the idea of sticking the OPKs into an old notebook new girl. Would just need to make sure I don't pick up the wrong notebook to take to work tho haha Blush xx

Cookie22 · 30/01/2016 16:48

Hi everyone! Bobo your OPKs look great. It looks like your peak could come very soon! I've been doing my CB digis most of the week and have finally seen my wee smiley friend today! He's flashing so I've not hit my peak, but it's reassuring that my fertile window is finally here and a full week earlier than my ov last month! So maybe the b6 has actually helped a little. For once ovia is actually correct too as it predicted my fertile window would start today. I'm chuffed! Xx

NewGirl2015 · 30/01/2016 16:43

Great OPK's bobo! Hope Ov comes soon for you.
Nosey question, can I see you've taped your OPK's into a notebook there? If so that's such a great idea!! I don't know why I haven't thought to do this, I just chuck mine in the bin and then try to remember how it compares to the previous month!

BoBo90 · 30/01/2016 15:52

Sorry to hear Af definitely appeared newgirl fx crossed next month will be your month!

So I did a frer and Opk this morning - bfn (no surprise there) and quite dark line on Opk! Not positive yet but I took another at 1pm and good line again. Guess I will have to keep testing and wait for a positive and hopefully this time my ovary will have the decency to release an actual egg!

The craziness that is TTC after stopping the pill. On this thread we have 100 day cycles, do weeks of opks and send ovia into a fit with our ever changing fertile windows! Welcome.
lawyeredout82 · 30/01/2016 15:42

Sunny - yep I've taken about 6 pregnancy tests (all bfn) as I read that bleeding after sex was common in early pregnancy! Shouldn't have got my hopes up for such a smooth transition after the pill!!

Ive got the clearblue ovulation monitor and have no idea when to start it this "cycle" given that I haven't really had a period - just that one bleed that literally only lasted an hour. Any suggestions ladies? Xx

cockermum85 · 30/01/2016 14:58

Hey everyone, Sam here,

I stopped taking Microgynon in sept 15.
Cycle 1 - 28 days
Cycle 2 - 29 days
Cycle 3 - 56 days

We're just starting our journey into TTC and am 7 days into this cycle. I was charting and OPKs during cycle one and two and thought it all looked normal. Then I thought I wouldn't bother for my last cycle and it went on forever! It's crazy because technically we've not ever really TTC but I'm obsessing now. I wish I could take a patience supplement! 😂

NewGirl2015 · 30/01/2016 13:36

Hi sunny, thanks for the info. That makes sense, I've literally only just bought it so just wanted to know what the best thing to do was.

The witch AF is definitely here now!! My temps are still pretty high which is a bit confusing. Was feeling so down on Thursday/Friday when my spotting started, but got to snap myself out of it now. New cycle, new opportunity!
Going to concentrate on being as healthy as possible this month. I've downloaded the drink aware app to encourage me to cut down on the wine and going to get back into exercise which Ovia keeps telling me is important for fertility throughout the cycle (thanks for the hint Ovia!).
I've put on nearly 2 stone since getting married 8 months ago Blush, I'm not overweight but I'm sure it will all help, plus I just feel like a big fat slug at the mo!!

Welcome sunflower, how long have you been off the pill?

Shan it looks like we are in sync, we will have the boring wait for ovulation now!

Sunnydays321 · 30/01/2016 12:10

Ps newgirl... I hope that didnt freak you out if you have been taking it all month, the risk is hypothetical and very small.... It's just they have to say that as a warning! Same as everything cos it's not ethical to test on pregnant women :) x

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Sunnydays321 · 30/01/2016 12:07

Newgirl, the research I read said not to take after ovulation as it can increase risk of miscarriage.. That's why it's got the "not to take if TTC" warning, because it affects hormone balance. You should take it from cd1 until OV and then stop.

Welcome sunflower. This thread will be a good place for you. How quickly did your cycles return when you have stopped pill in the past? Some peoples cycles go back to normal immediately, some conceive 1st time they ovulate before 1st period and some can wait up to a year for 1st period post pil.... It affects us all differently so there is a huge range! 1st time I stopped pill it took 300 days to get my 1st period, and this time it took 100 days, and nearly 7 months later it's till really irregular. Hope things settle quickly for you. You will get some good hand holding here in the mean time. I did a cheapie pregnancy test once a fortnight until my 1st AF just in case, didn't want to be one of those people who rock up to the midwife at 12 weeks pregnant cod I didn't know! Lol. X

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Sunflower1985 · 30/01/2016 09:45

Humph.
Ttc#2. Off pill since Dec15.
According to Ovia expected either AF or BFP yesterday - got neither. BFN and cramps and dreading a lengthening cycle after the first one was good.
It's such a mind fuck - wanting and not wanting AF.

NewGirl2015 · 30/01/2016 09:44

Sunny I'm not sure if it made a difference, as I'm not sure if I ovulated on CD22 or 24. So I'm either 11 or 13DPO, no full period yet but 2 days of spotting now, which would have started on CD10 or 12 - my average lutenal has been 11 days. If I ov'd on the earlier date then it has helped.

Quick question for you all re Angus cactus...my pack says do not take if trying to conceive?! Does everyone's say that?
Those of you using it, how many mg are you taking?

Sunnydays321 · 30/01/2016 09:37

Sorry about AF Shan. But onwards and upwards to next month.. I know what you mean about the pill settling periods, the period pain iv had since coming off the pill is unreal! I can even feel my uterus contracting, paracetamol, codeine and ibruprofen didn't cut it last month... That was why I'd gone on pill originally (I was passing out at school from pain, and waking up in the night crying!!) but I'd forgotten about all of that till I stopped again!

Newgirl, you're not out yet, keeping fingers crossed for you. I might try b6 as my luteal phase has only been 9 days since stopping pill. Have you found its made a difference yet?

Bobo, I got a little bit of ewcm the day before period last month, not sure why.

Welcome lawyer, sounds like you were lucky with sensible post pill cycles last time you stopped pill and a quick pregnancy.. Fingers crossed the same happens this time for you! Have you taken a test yet? If your opks were positive on 13th you would have been due AF on 27th (if you have 14 day luteal phase). Sometimes though you can have a positive opk but not ovulate, your LH rises, your body tries to ovulate and doesn't manage, and you ovulate at a later date. Also some people (me included) can have days and days of positive opks and you usually ovulate after the last one, so you could have ovulated days after that positive opk.

X

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shankate182 · 30/01/2016 09:12

Af is seriously heavy !! It's made to think how the pill calmed them down to Bearly anything at all and then without it its bam like a murder scene 😅😅 God hope it doesn't last to long I'm drained with it :( hurry on and get over you witch so I can start baby maken attempt 2 😅

NewGirl2015 · 30/01/2016 08:23

Hi again everyone!
A proper recap from me

Ok the pill for over 10 years, combined for most (few different ones) of that but most recently mini pill cerazette.

Stopped taking pill Aug 15
TTC#1
Cycles since then 31, 38, 30, 29,
Currently CD 35, negative test and spotting yesterday so pretty sure AF is on her way.
Been trying for 2 cycles
Started taking 50mg vit B6 for short lutenal phase halfway through my cycle, not sure if it's had any effect as I'm not sure about Ov date this month.
Bought some Angus cactus yesterday so going to start taking this, and up my vit B6 to 100mg, alongside my prenatal vitamin.

Good luck and baby dust to everyone xx