Anyone else starting their 2ww?

You poor thing Anne that sounds nasty. Can you rest this weekend?? Hope you feel better soon.

I'm now about 12dpo I think and Ovia says I can test. Got a v faint line a few days ago but I think it was an evaporation line in truth. I'll test tomorrow I think. AF due on Wednesday. Feeling v crampy, bloated and got swollen boobs so feel like AF is on its way. I'm seeing my consultant on Wednesday night & going to ask him about going on Clomid I think as reckon my ovulation has changed since the MC.

Does anyone have any experience of Clomid? Does it work?

How are you doing now Kate? That's so odd about your OPK, I haven't done it so no experience at all.

I've felt so shite I've even been off work. Don't remember last time that happened. Cystitis done, followed by nasty ear infection and then came on 3 days early. Feeling. Wiped. Out. Also quite worried about how short my cycle's got so quickly and cocking up our honeymoon plans :(

How's everyone else?

Ah that's good Anne pleased you are better and have a nice weekend ahead.

I am so confused about my cycle. Been getting a bit down about it. As you know, I thought I ovulated last Fri and Sat, which would mean I am now 6/7 dpo - I have been getting bad bloating, gas, tiredness, swollen boobs, cramps etc so thought things might be happening. And then today, I did an OPK out of curiosity and it was PEAK which has totally thrown me as it could mean that I didn't ovulate last weekend and I am ovulating now. However I have creamy CM which from what I know isn't fertile so I am VERY confused and getting a bit peed off with it at now. Why can't it be easy eh?

xx

Feeling but better thanks Kate, still quite low but happy to have finished work for the week today and getting my head into a nice weekend away. How are you doing? Can you revise when you can test based on ovulating early this cycle?

And Frantastic? Theaks - are you getting on ok too? x

HI everyone

I am so sorry you have been feeling low Anne - I know it is a tough situation we are all in but I always find that antibiotics make me feel depressed too. How are you feeling now? Has the UTI gone? Poor thing, hope you are feeling better.

How are you Julia, Lily?

xx

Thanks Kate, started antibiotics yesterday and feeling a bit better. God, yours sounds grim! Have you stopped getting it? This is my first time, pretty lucky I think! I told the doctor and pharmacist I'm ttc and they said the meds are totally safe. I was a bit worried but have to trust them.

Feeling pretty grumpy and low today despite feeling better. I'm shattered and life just never seems to calm down does it? I'm sure, for no particularly reason, this isn't our month, and that's fine. I got suckered into thinking it would happen straight away as it does for so many people. I feel bad even saying that as some of you have been through so much already and been trying much longer. But there you go.

It's my birthday in a few days, we have a happy weekend away to look forward, wedding planning's going well. I have a huge amount to be grateful for. But for anything I'd crawl back into bed and sleep for a week, have a good bawl then sleep for another week.

HI everyone.

You poor thing Anne. Are you feeling any better now? Did the doctor call you back?

I have had ALOT of cystitis in my time - been to A&E with it about 3 times and had it recurrently as a kid. It is always agony to wee, like weeing daggers and I get searing pain in my tummy. It has always gone v quickly with anti-biotics, but I imagine you may not want to take those if you are in your TWW?

I would suggest tons and tons of water, hot water bottles and if you can, stay as calm as possible because for me it was always much worse when I was stressed.

Hope you feel better v v soon xx

Hi Julia you read all sorts out there, some people swear they knew straight away, including my Mum!

How's everyone?

Pretty sure I have cystitis. Never had it before but my poor sister is a chronic sufferer and it feels like it. No pain urinating but lower abdominal pain, really bloated, keep wanting to wee even after I've just been, general feeling of low level infection and keep getting clammy and goosebumps. Delightful. Called the doc and waiting for someone to call me back. Weirdly, had the same on Friday night, felt rotten, but it went away and is now back.

Anyone an expert?

Hi Julia - I am not sure what the science is with when you should get symptoms. I think everyone is different. With both my pregnancies (which ended in MCs), I had some small symptoms within about 5 -7 days, and I had very distinctive flutters in my tummy from about 3/4dpo. I think some women can feel symptoms if they are very in tune with their bodies as when the egg is fertilised, and before it implants, it produces hormones which can cause bloating and sore boobs. Also implantation can cause cramping. I am not 100% sure of the science though.

And I know Anne! That would be a Xmas miracle for us, but hoping it works for you and others on this thread!

I am on CD 11. Ovia said I ovulated on Friday or Saturday - so I guess I am 2/3 dpo. My CM is now just watery and was very stringy yesterday so think I have only just ovulated. That is great you are getting such strong symptoms though! When can you test?

I'm very confused. I'm on the 2ww. Is It the case we shouldn't get any symtoms until after implantation as that is when the hormone is released from the brain to tell the body it's pregnant and so the symptoms start? How do we get symtoms so early post ovulation? Oh and I have a load of them, nausea, sore boobs, I'm 8dpo.

Just realised that about anyone getting their bfp this month will be having a xmas baby!

(numbers not my strong point! )

Good job on dtd with your sore back Kate! , how are you feeling? Is creamy CM meant to follow EWCM? I'm CD18 now, you?

I'm 3 dpo I think, based on Ovia and weird left pelvic aching on Thursday and Friday. Boobs are massive again since yesterday. Feeling alright. Quite tired but manic long weekend.

Thanks! I now need all the other stuff... Shoes, hair ideas, nails etc.

Frantastic so sorry for a slow reply. Had a busy weekend and a painful back. I am so pleased you are wanting to try again after your MC. It is the hardest thing but so glad you are over the pain. I have had two MCs and a chemical pregnancy and have no children already, so know how difficult it is to keep trying, but you have to keep hoping...But welcome to this thread!

How do you know you ovulated?? I don't know how to tell.

I am in my fertile window, we have DTD three times now and my CM seems to suggest I am ovulating - it's EWCM and now it is creamy. Does anyone know if that means I have ovulated?

How is everyone else?

Anne your dress sounds utterly gorgeous. Perfect spring / summer dress. How exciting.

x

Ive not been trying for three years following a MC at 5 weeks. The emotion of it scared me. I felt so numb afterwards, but a few months later the grief was unbearable. I was never going to try again. However, this month is not so much trying to get PG, more just seeing what happens. Having said that I have wanted another child for about 15 years. I have two who are 21 and 19 but I had them in my early 20s and it flew by so fast. If it happens, it happens. But I REALLY want it to happen. I know I defo ovulated during the weekend and had a busy time in the bedroom dept so fingers crossed.

That's shocking. Makes you wonder how many people go through that, it's potentially incredibly cynical and aimed to manipulate people who are understandably at their lowest.

Fertility treatment can be the most wonderful thing and transform lives. My DSC were IVF babies and my DP and his ex could never have had children without it. But it's grim thinking there are people working in it, like every industry, who are dodgy. Though I'm sure there are others who just make mistakes too and as we all know, there's apparently sod all rhyme or reason to baby making.

Anyway, as you say, relax and look forward to a fun evening!

Dress is pale pink, full length, sleeveless with crossing straps at the back, bit of a crystally thing on the waist. Simple and relaxed, feels lovely. Exciting!

Ooh beautiful! What is it like?!

The doctor was a private specialist who in the same breath said I should do IVF at their clinic for £14k. At the time it was devastating, so devastating but when I got pregnant, i did start to question it... A lot of my friends are journalists and I have talked to them many times about doing an article about infertility fraud. Don't get me started though!! I need to relax for tonight!

x

9 weeks! Finally got a dress yesterday. I might have been overly relaxed about wedding planning!

You did say about your friend, lovely to hear it happening for people.

Bloody hell, that must have been awful hearing that from a doctor. Was there a specific reason? Well in their faces, you've got pregnant twice and will do again, maybe tonight!

Hope your back is full better soon. Nothing like a good dose of oxytocin for pain relief! But go gently...

Ah bless you thanks!! He better come home with bags of energy!

When is your wedding? I think I have said before that it happened to my friend... wedding coming up, stopping stressing, whoops. Whatever the case, it is great to be relaxed.

I find it hard to relax myself but both times I fell pregnant I was extremely stressed - the first time, I was told by a private clinic that I would never even fall pregnant naturally which sent me into meltdown and four days later I conceived.... and the second time, I had a massive deadline at work and was working 16 hour days for a while, and although with both I miscarried, I did conceive in the first place and my consultant has said MCs aren't caused by stress.

Ooh my back is starting to hurt again... maybe I am stressed!!

xx

Lucky man Kate! Hope you have a lovely night.

We've told ourselves that it's no biggie if this isn't our month as we're so close to wedding/honeymoon now. But I'm not sure if it's a bit like pretending you've stopped trying? I don't know. Anyway, since coming off the pill I'm up for it pretty much constantly so that's a bonus!

Thanks Anne - it is much better now and have eased off the drugs just in case! I did ANOTHER OPK with another tester I have and that was peak too - so it sounds like I am definitely ovulating or have ovulated. My boyfriend is under strict instructions to get home tonight asap to DTD! Looks like we will only have a tiny window this time.

Does anyone know whether early ovulation is a good thing? I suppose it gives me a longer luteal phrase which I think is good? But it seems odd to have come so early.

xx

Congrats on your new home!

They always say that brown blood is old and bright red is new - more like normal af - so definitely sounds like implantation bleeding if it was dark and only light spotting.

Pop your feet up I say, moving is exhausting

It will almost definitely be implantation bleeding - I had that with both pregnancies the day before I was due to come on, and thought I was out until a few days later when AF still hadn't arrived and I tested. Don't worry - it is a great sign!

So how many weeks are you? 4? What CD did you test on?

SO pleased for you.

xx

Kate! I didn't see your message for some reason, sorry. Awful about your back, is it getting any better today? At least the pills should help and, I'm not remotely medical, sure they won't affect fertility. What have you decided about the scan idea?

It does sound like you've ovulated and that it' ahead of schedule. I'm still new to this so hopefully one of the others will have some ideas or experience?

I'm on cd 14 and definitely feeling ovulation things going on.

Hi shopaholic, what lovely news! Thank you for setting up this thread and I'm very happy to hear about your bfp and wish you a happy, healthy, relaxed pregnancy.