Christmas is here but it's not the turkey that's getting basted... with symptoms to spot and festive cheer, Prty and the gang are getting BFPS this year!!

Day 3 of period and am fed up of it already, especially the cramps..
Started to take temps again but was thinking that last month when I wasn't charting anything at all I was a lot more relaxed, didn't symptom spot all the time and when af came on Monday was fed up yes but not as bad as last month. Might just have a few months of not charting just making a not of when af starts and stops and see how that goes.

Here's hoping anyway kitten . To help with project dream home am looking to remortgage, try and get a better deal to help with saving for a deposit. If only project TTC was that straightforward

Oh no snowy - I've done that before too but I'm a big believer in things happening for a reason so the dream home you've found now might not be meant for you but your actual dream home will be there when you are in a position to move (and it'll be even more perfect!)

Kitten think i have actually depressed myself with the houses, have found the dream home, everything I want in a house and I'm just not in a position to move for a couple years yet

snowy - keeping calm is really good, I'm going to try that this month. Keep looking at those houses instead
neetie - sorry to hear that. My af was a couple of days early this month too and I took it hard. Look after yourself, it's so rubbish, I hate ttc.

Well more bleeding and more cramping so am guessing this is af not just bleeding from the smear test :(

I am 7 DPO, I don't test unless AF is late by a couple days so still 1 week minimum until testing. So far this cycle I am keeping myself calm and busy so haven't been thinking about it too much which I'm glad about.

Yes I was pleased snowy. I love day dreaming about houses I can't afford too! When is your test date? I'm at the really boring bit - cd4. Can't even crack open the opks for another few days - boring!

Kitten that sounds like a very good acupuncture session, very positive!!

Sorry have been a bit AWOL, between the bug, work and my latest TWW distraction (stalking property pal and day dreaming about houses I can't afford) I have been kept very busy. Turns out property pal stalking is a brilliant way to distract from the TWW

Hi everyone.
So had my acupuncture today. Was really interesting. She said I was yang deficient meaning I need to change a few things and she can work on it. She said she could see no reason why I can't get pregnant- which is good to know - but makes it more frustrating too. They have a really high success rate though and a 44 year old client has just got pregnant and she was told she wouldn't be able to conceive. Gives me a little hope

mmm well tonight I have bleeding but that could be caused by the irritation of her poking around to find my cervix, so won't get too down just yet.

Yes took her a couple of goes to find it

Morning, had my smear test today was fine so now have to wait for results.
She did have trouble finding my cervix though and when she finally found it said it was high and tilted back....af due sometime this week

I definitely had ovulation pains yesterday so I hope we managed enough to catch the egg. Not overly optimistic as last cycle we DTD five times in my fertile week and still didn't get anywhere but I have my fingers crossed for all of us.

Thanks for your kind words hippy and fuzzy. I'm feeling a bit better about going to acupuncture now. I always really struggle after af arrives but I've got to pick myself up.
hippy I've got ff too - it is good - I've not got the paid version though, just the basic free version. It is useful for inputting cycle data though.
Fingers crossed for you both - hope 2ww passes quickly.

Kitten so sorry, I totally missed your post! So sorry about arrival of AF. It's so hard when your hopes are crushed by the arrival of that spot on your knickers!

Deffo go to acupuncture! I really think it's helped me a lot! My acupuncturist is really nice, and as I've said before, it's been great having somebody to talk to about TTC. Also, when I first started to see her, my pulse was 'wild' apparently, I was getting ill all the time, and my temps were all over the place. 5 months in, and my pulse has settled down, she completely got rid of the heart palpitations I was having on a daily basis. I'm not nearly I'll/tired as frequently, plus for the last 3 cycles, I've been getting really sore nipples after ovulation meaning my estrogen is much stronger - a good sign. So although I've not got my BFP (yet), I really feel it's helped regulate me and my cycles, and I am hopeful for the next few cycles. Please don't give up hope. Why don't you see the doctor anyway, I'm not sure which tests you've had done, but you could get the ball rolling at that end, as we know that all takes a while, then while you're waiting for that, go to acupuncture. It may or may not help you get a BFP, but it may well help you cope better, feel better...

Hugs! So sorry! Xx

P.s. Fertility Friend has readjusted my ov date back to the 11th - as I adjusted my last two temps as I remembered I took them after going to the Loo! Hopefully that is my true ov date as our BDing was much more frequent in the lead up to then...

I struggle to temp Prty as I usually need to get up in the night and my charts aren't that good, but some people find it brilliant for them.

Oh MrsKittenPie ttc is a horrible time. I really hope acupuncture does help but if you don't feel the person you see if very knowledgable, don't forget that you can always try elsewhere. Are you able to see the two year mark as the time that you can get some more medical help and focus on it being positive in that sense, or will that not work?

I ovulated earlier than expected as well hippy which is so annoying. If I at least know the right day, then I can make sure I DTD enough in the build up. We just don't have the energy or inclination to endlessly DTD in the hope and need to rely on OPKs and my previous cycles. I use fertility friend as well but it was really out this month - but I suppose that is the problem with unpredictable cycles!

This is my chart for this cycle...

Oh, BTW, I have discovered Fertility Friend. It's definitely the best website/app I've come across so far for accurately analysing your cycles. It's got a chart gallery, stories from people who've got pregnant, TTC, etc... The actual graphics are a bit outdated, but in terms of usefulness, it's great! Maybe we should all join, and then we can analyse each other's cycles, and chat with each other there?! I'm on there as hippybird of course! X

Morning all!

prty I really would recommend temping. It is the best indicator of ovulation as far as I'm concerned, and even though I've not got pregnant since I started about 4-5 months ago, I'm so much more aware of my cycles now. For example, I know that I often, but not always, ovulate on CD10. Also, once you have ovulated, you can look back and see what your chances are, and whether you DTD enough in the lead up. And I don't find it stressful at all. It's quite nice to have something concrete to look at, rather than speculating.

I'm a bit frustrated, as it looks like I may have ovulated earlier than usual. I was thinking perhaps I was having a triphasic cycle, with a later temp shift, indicating pregnancy (ahh, I'm always so hopeful!). But now with the later temp shift, although luckily we did DTD, not quite as much as before CD 10. Oh well, it's the dreaded TWW now. I'm going to be positive, assume we did DTD enough, let myself be hopeful, and open to being pregnant. And I've decided I'm going to go to the doctor for tests if I'm not successful this cycle.

How is everyone today? Anyone testing soon?

Morning everyone.
So it's cd2 here . Thanks for asking after me fuzzy. You may be okay if you managed to dtd last night when you'd had the positive opk as that shows you are going to ovulate soon so the timing could have been perfect.
I was gutted about af arriving. Even after all this time I kid myself that it might be different. Just for even more cruel games it was early. Onto cycle 21 or is it 22? I've lost count - know it's nearing the 2 year mark and I was so depressed last year when I hit the one year mark - ha! Little did I know.
Acupuncture appointment on Monday, I was secretly hoping I wouldn't need it. I was excited about it but now am so fed up I've failed again I'm wondering whether it's even worth bothering with. Sorry for the me post, am just wallowing.