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Forty and over trying for a first baby - join us here

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JessieMcJessie · 25/11/2015 11:38

A year ago today I started this thread

Any 40+ladies out there TTC #1?

and, 1000 posts later, it has filled up with the shared experiences of various fantastic women who find ourselves hoping to start a family after the age of 40. And listen out Daily Mail - not one of us deliberately "delayed motherhood" to concentrate on our careers or frivolous pursuits. By and large we just didn't meet the right person (or decide to go it alone) till we were quite long in the tooth.

Trying for a first at this age has its own special challenges. The old thread contains its fair share of sad tales of early miscarriage and disapointing test results. However it is also a great place for success stories and positive thinking and it has been a lifeline for me over the past year.

Although those who already have a child or children and are trying for more in their forties are welcome to join (and we absolutely understand the real pain of secondary infertility), part of the value of this thread is the opportunity to share experience amongst those of us for whom failure will mean no children at all, rather than a smaller family than we'd like. It's also a place where we all share a sense of total uncharted territory where pregnancy and childbrirth are concerned!

There are a number of stalwarts who have been with me from almost day one and I hope you'll join this new thread too, but we all hope to graduate eventually to the pregnancy boards so new joiners are very important! If your fortieth is looming it's fine to join a bit before.

A newish poster asked last week if people could post their "stats" and I think that's a good idea. So I'll kick it off (feel free to include whatever info you feel like giving):

Jessie McJessie 42, TTC since October 2014 (13 months) having only met my DH at the tender age of 38. 2 chemical pregnancies, one blocked tube, low AMH, one failed IUI, 1 failed IVF and about to start our second IVF. Just moved back to London after 6 years in Hong Kong.

So, off we go. We have a special skill at scouring the media for stories of celebs having babies over 40. And there's no such thing as TMI Grin.

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Loueeza · 25/03/2016 02:02

Oh, and congrats to Daisy too, of course.

Annie, that's incredible news!!!

Loueeza · 25/03/2016 02:01

Hi Totalnamechanger - nice to have you here! We're a friendly bunch and always seems to be quite a bit going on!

And... wow!!! I turn my back for a few days and there are twins and BFPs galore!!

Congrats to Kwik and Annie!! My goodness, you two have done so well! :-)

Nothing really happening with me. We 'tried our bestest' this month, and I'm currently at about 8dpo. Feeling the first stirrings of AF today, so my heart's beginning to sink already, but you never know.

totalnamechanger · 24/03/2016 22:32

Annie I've had to abandon my other thread (Fab 40 etc) as it's got too busy and I'm too busy to keep up but I've just seen this and have always found you inspiring- keeping absolutely everything crossed for you!

Gosh it's exciting on this thread atm. Twins and everything. All the best to all of you.

AnnieHoo · 24/03/2016 21:32

Oh FMU ! Forgot what that meant. No it was this afternoon. X

AnnieHoo · 24/03/2016 21:27

Err its day32 here no idea what dpo as didn't temp but think af due 26th. This is using a FRER.

Kwick709 · 24/03/2016 18:59

Anniehoo !!!!!!!!!! More details please!!!!! Was this with FMU? What dpo are you? Defo a line there!!!!! CONGRATS!!!!

Daisyboo cyclogest can go up either offrice.... i have now reverted to non- fanjo one and theer was just too much up there (using crinone too)!

ChewyGiraffe · 24/03/2016 16:59

Wowsers Annie - it definitely looks that way! Congratulations, I'm over the moon for you! x

AnnieHoo · 24/03/2016 15:53

Omg. Think I'm preggers!

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ChewyGiraffe · 24/03/2016 07:41

Just popping in to say wow, what lovely news on here!

Kwick - massive congratulations on your BFP, I'm thrilled for you! Two eggs, one embryo, one very pregnant lady! How encouraging that you've proved it really does only take one good 'un! I think you've had a few IUI, was this your first IVF? Truly marvellous!

Sparrow - hope your treatment is all progressing beautifully to plan for you in Athens?

Daisy - wonderful to read that your twins are both doing well, hearbeats and each of them measuring to date - that's great news surely.
All credit to you for coping with the bleeding. I had a sub-chorionic haematoma at 9 weeks pg with DD (naturally conceived) and oh my goodness the blood, it was terrifying! But like you I was scanned, they could see where the bleed had come from and all was well. Bleeding tailed off into brown spotting, then stopped. It sounds so lame to say try not to worry, but please don't (the result of mine is about to eat her breakfast).

Jessie - my goodness, 17 weeks already! It's lovely to hear that all is progressing perfectly on course - it dares to encourage me (and I suspect many others too) that happy endings are possible.
Do you have a nice bump already? You'll be having your 20 week scan soon - do you have any thoughts on finding out the sex too?
On movements, I felt some uncommonly early with DD (16 weeks I think) whilst she could still scoot about in there, but once bigger she hid behind my (high anterior) placenta which muffled her punches and kicks and gave me bags of worry. Do hope yours will behave better! You've probably seen these campaigns already, but just in case not, there's some useful info at www.kickscount.org.uk/ and www.countthekicks.org/about/. I found an old fashioned notebook was best way to keep calm!

Best of luck Annie, City and everyone else in 2ww x

Daisyboo1203 · 24/03/2016 06:42

Kwick, where were you applying the cyclogest before?!?
If it is the same as my progesterone is it like a soft tablet that goes up.
And yes, you need a pad for the 'fall out'.
I also have progesterone injections for top up.
Jessie, I am 9 weeks today!

AnnieHoo · 23/03/2016 21:24

Oh right! I had fanny bullets morning only.

Kwick709 · 23/03/2016 20:04

Anniehoo how can I lie down - I am at work Hmm It is hard enough to apply! So have adopted new approach - lets see how that goes: up the fanjo - will alternate throughout the day between crinone and cyclogest and will wear a sanitary pad....

AnnieHoo · 23/03/2016 18:54

Did you lie down for 5 mins after? I was told to do that. Don't always have 5 mins to linger around though! Yes panty liners are the answer!

Kwick709 · 23/03/2016 18:43

So applied cyclogest and it leaked - through knickers, and trousers to chair - very embarassing... Think will apply to fanjo next time so panty liner can "catch".... Blush

AnnieHoo · 23/03/2016 16:40

Congratulations kwick!! Smile
Wow lovely posts - so lovely to see twins!!

Nothing to report here, tested negative so far but could still be too early.

How are you getting on city my cycle buddy?

JessieMcJessie · 22/03/2016 22:05

Woo hoo Kwick! How exciting. I had cyclone at pessaries for my IUI and both IVFs- bit messy but no side effects for me.

Good luck!

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Kwick709 · 22/03/2016 21:52

Lovely updates jessie and daisyboo :)

I am very pleased to confirm that 11 HPTs and 1 beta-hcg blood test later I am pregnant!!! I am going back to clinic again tomorrow to pick up more meds - apparently progesterone is on the low side again so I am gong to start cyclogest (any info on this?).

JessieMcJessie · 22/03/2016 13:58

Wow Daisy! How many weeks along are you now then? I think that in general if a hb is seen at 8 weeks then miscarriage risk diminishes quite substantially. Though perhaps the rules are different for twins.

Glad you're not suffering too much with sickness. I haven't either and wonder if all those IVF drugs prepare the body for pregnancy better than in a natural conception.

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Daisyboo1203 · 22/03/2016 13:31

Hi Jessie!
All ok here!
I had more bleeding at 7 weeks and an A&E ultrasound was a bit crap not showing much, perhaps 2 sacs still. They said I could have a proper EPU scan the next day or wait til my appointment the next week. I was fed up with hospital waits to opted to wait a week.

I was very nervous about the scan, thinking there may not be anything there.
They found 2 sacs and 2 heart beats. Everything measuring what it should,
Obviously still early days so still taking it a day at a time.
I have gotten used to the idea of 2 babies, reading a lot of ladies experience online has given me an idea of the reality. Although I am still cautious as I know a lot can happen at this stage.
I have had no more red bleeding, but am still getting brown spotting. I am just hoping it is the end of the hematoma and/or more common with twins/IVF.
The scan looks like I have a lot of bubbles in there!!!
Glad to hear you are doing well, Jessie. I can totally understand your feeling with movement etc. This doesn't feel real for me yet and I don't think it will until the signs you mentioned.
I am knackered though, going to bed very early at the moment. Luckily only a few days sickness, Saturday was bad but very mild since.

Wishing everyone well on here. Xxx

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JessieMcJessie · 22/03/2016 12:58

Hi all. I wandered over looking for news of Daisy - are you out there?

Thanks for the story choccie.

Not much to report from me - am 17 weeks tomorrow and all checks fine so far. I am slowly getting into the mentality of someone who is going to have a baby rather than someone who is precariously pregnant, but I will feel better once I start to feel movement and have some sort of regular signs that all is OK in there. That should be in the next few weeks I understand.

We've finally moved into our new house and although I've been trying not to lift boxes it has a lot more stairs than I am used to and I am pretty knackered. There is an empty room earmarked as "for the baby" but it still feels far too early to decorate it.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you all and hoping for good news from this thread soon.

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magnificatAnimaMea · 21/03/2016 00:58

Chocciechip - just one important thing about NIPT (which includes Harmony, and others) - I totally agree they're extremely useful for all sorts of things - but they're not 100% conclusive. They are about 99% conclusive at best (and less for some things being looked at). They're not diagnostic tests, they're screening tests, and they can (and do) have errors. In some cases those errors can be significant. Different NIPTs have different error rates.

However, that's a much higher rate of successful screening than a lot of the other methods, and Harmony (and the others) are all valuable tests. What you do once you have the results from those tests is, if relevant, diagnose using amniocentesis.

Loueeza · 19/03/2016 03:54

Thanks so much for your encouraging words, chocciechip.

I haven't lost hope yet. Although I do worry that if it's going to happen at our age it usually does quite quickly or you have miscarriages first (not that I would wish that on myself but it at least it would show that I can conceive).

I've been trying for about 18 months with 1 IVF (as it was free on the NHS) and... absolutely nothing. Not a dickie bird.

So hopefully there IS still hope for me. Depends what mood I'm in as to whether I believe there is or not.

chocciechip · 18/03/2016 18:05

Kitten I understand those fears. I was very fearful about chromosomal problems. Did you know that there's a test you can get done now for Downs and other disorders that is 100% conclusive and (I think) can be done at about 6weeks? It's a blood test that identifies baby DNA in the mothers blood. So it is totally non invasive and reduces risks of MC. I think it is still only available privately, and unfortunately very expensive. DH and I were torn over it. Our fear was leaving DD with a burden in her life. In the end we didn't do it because I knew I personally wouldn't be able to act on it. However, it offers women the option of very very early termination, if that's what they decide is best for them. And because it is 100% conclusive it means a relatively worry free pregnancy. Google Harmony test. Easy for me to say, but don't let those worries stop you hoping.

Kwick709 · 18/03/2016 17:05

chocciechip what a lovely uplifting story - thank you so much for sharing.

Kitten3 · 18/03/2016 10:11

Chocciechip, that's a lovely story. Congratulations to you! You have given me a bit of hope that this 3rd pregnancy within a year may be successful unlike the 2 miscarriages I had earlier.

I am not getting my hopes up, I am also realistic about the quality of my eggs given my age (43), and keep telling myself that miscarriages quite often relate to the embryo not forming correctly and that there are chromosomal abnormalities.

My OH overheard a radio show the other day where there was discussion on the increased risk of Down's Syndrome with advancing age in women, that led to me stressing about having to consider other factors even if I was successful. I would love a baby either way, my concern would be for the child when I was no longer around.

Anyway, sorry for the digression, I think we all need to hear the lovely stories and continue to wish everyone lots of luck and hope.

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