Any temping experts fancy having a look at my chart?

Great news about your scan pcr so pleased everything looks good.

*news -sorry typo

Any need rose?
Frustrated with my temp. Yesterday's was probably not correct as had been up to go to the loo a couple of hours before temp and had a drink and had had a skinful the night before and was taken 3 hrs after normal. It's appearing (if temping is correct) that we haven't ovulated. Blood test Friday to confirm and should get the results 4 days after. So sick of everything giving contradicting info.

Thanks for the info mrspcr
May look at those pound land ones for next month.
I hear their hpts are good too.
How are you getting on? Have you found out the sex? Any recent scans?

Hi
Any news on af? What days will you be taking your femara? Does being on clomid or femara mess with your emotions?
Just had a look at your chart, your cycles are a bit mad. Such a long one last month and what looks like will be a short one this month. Must be infuriating everything changing so much each month. What a nightmare trying to plan things.

So, I've heard this set of ic opks are duff, lots of mn ladies have been complaining about them (the ones with the green handle with writing on) saying they don't give positives. I'm so cross these are being sold when they don't work. Very frustrating for everyone who has them.

Here is today's chart, when does FF draw the cover line for you? I'm presuming from this chart that I ovulate yesterday. What do you think? FF still has me down to Ov on Monday?

Dtd has been bloody hard work. DP has had enough. We didn't manage to do it yesterday. It's such a crap pressurised environment. I'm gutted we didn't manage to dtd on Ov day but am pleased it's all over for a this month.

Hi Rose
How are you getting on? You must be about 10dpo by now are you? When might you test? Did you manage to dtd on all the right days?
I just had my 1st static smiley face on CB ovulation kit
Very excited!
Although look at my opk
I don't get it with my opk's, I just don't think I have much in the way of hormones so they don't get very dark. Got a blood test this months that will confirm if any of the methods are correct for me, CB ovulation kit, ic opk, temping.

I'm so sorry to hear your ovaries are covered in cysts, this has made me really sad reading about it. I'm so pleased you have magically started ovulating on your own, that is amazing. Such a shame you can't have clomid again but I'd imagine eye sight is more important, or I think it would be for me. I've not heard of femara before, will that be less intense on your eye sight and side effects? So when will you be testing? What kind of test will you use?
I've always thought I'm not shelling out for expensive tests but I've now decided ic's aren't good enough for me. When I had my bfp I had to get it confirmed by a frer and so have decided I will use a frer on 10dpo on each cycle and then I will know either way, I think I was 10dpo when I had my bfp and it was quite clear. I'm a bit crazy and have kept the test in my sock drawer. After a few months of ic opk's not doing anything and the temping suggesting I did in fact ovulate and after a total meltdown last week dp decided we would try these. If they work I'll probably keep buying them. For £30 per month for frer and CB opk I'm happy to pay it for peace of mind. I've done all the cheapest out there and they haven't worked so off we go spending the cash. Will keep you updated

Yes! We have thought about a private clomid cycle if I need it. This month we have our clear blue ov test with the flashing smiley faces, cheap opk's, temping and a blood test so will know for certain if I ovulate. If I don't ovulate we will go for clomid privately, just hoping for some answers this month. The dr said that bloods are the only certain way of knowing if you ovulate but at least we will know if the temping and opk's are correct. Don't think I'd want to be on clomid over Xmas though. I think we will most likely hold off until Jan. im sure I'll change my mind if I don't ovulate this month as will just want to get things going if we can Very proactive month for us this month! Decisions will be made! Although, I say that, this morning I had my 1st flashing smiley face, not sure if you've used them but blank circle means low fertility, flashing smiley face means high fertility and static smiley face means peak fertility and arrived back this evening early from work hoping to dtd and dp is tired and wants to do it later! Argh! I reminded him that this tiredness will most likely be costing us £2k. I'm sure we will manage to dtd a bit later. No rush I suppose. Can't wait to see the flashing smiley face again tomorrow
The frozen all cycle sounds great! Fantastic news about statistics! How long have you been on clomid for? Did they work you up to 150 from 50? Did you ovulate at all with the lower doses? How long haven't you been ovulating for? It's mad how many people just don't ovulate. I can't believe how common it is. All those contraceptives we have all taken for years and never needed to bother and think of all of the chemicals and hormones we have filling our bodies with! I won't be going back onto any form of contraceptive until we have 2 children. That will probably be never...
I'm so pleased you agree about not telling them about mc. Dp thought I was being stupid saying that I didn't want to tell them but after explaining and persuading him for weeks/months he finally agrees. I'm sure it will be for the best saying nothing.

P.s. Our trip there will be over the Easter holidays which fall early next year so at least if the next hospital appointment is a flop then we have a date to look forward to

I'm not surprised that cycle had you excited! I think I would have been too. I. So sorry it was a crap month for you. I think we've all been there with a month where it is almost certain and then the bloody red witch gets us again .
It's a tough decision to make about when you should do it all, I'm sure the dr's will end up making that decision for you with waiting times and drugs etc.
You'll wish you never asked that question about clomid when you read this essay....apologies in advance....
I've never been given anything at all to help ttc, my dr's drive me insane, I was referred to the infertility dept at the hospital where they just keep sending me away saying we need to give it more time. I 1st saw them after at least a year of ttc, I'd been on depo and so had not had af for at least 9 months from what I remember. Then I bled off and on very very strangely (40 days on, 10 days off, 25 days in, 4 days off, 20 days on 20 days off etc etc) that went on for about 6 months then things seemed to stabilise to a kind of normal cycle of between 25-35 days. I think it was when things had stabilised when I 1st went and they said they wanted us to keep trying. I had a hycosy which took months to come through. He said all was fine. He said that I had increased fertility after a hycosy but I hadn't ovulated in years, I asked him if it would help me ovulate and he said no, so clearly no increased fertility when you need a bloody egg to get fertilised in the 1st place. He told me I wasn't ovulating because I was over my 30 bmi. Bollocks is all I have to say to that. So he sent me away. I wasn't much over my bmi at all, perhaps about half a stone. The depo has screwed me up beyond belief. They should put far better warning systems in place for that contraceptive. I went back after another 3 months (I think) and I still wasn't ovulating. He booked me another appointment in another 3 months to put me on clomid if I hadn't ovulated and I had just ovulated out of the blue. Wow! I wasn't going to tell him as wanted assistance then but dp insisted. So then he sent us away for 6 months as he said that now I've just ovulated they need to leave me for a year of trying from now. Basically saying that all of the trying we had been doing before wasn't counted anymore. So we went back after 6 months of ovulating and they said they will put me on the IVF waiting list but not until January. So I have my appointment booked for Jan 18th. I've now convinced dp that we will not be telling them about the miscarriage in August as it was early and most people wouldn't have even known they were pregnant if they hadn't been obsessively testing like us crazy ttc-ers. So no help what so ever. We have had tests, a SA for him and a hycosy for me and a couple of swabs (but no bloods as they were all done when my cycle was mad and so didn't mean anything). I have a blood test this month booked through my gp as the hospital won't speak with me before January, to see if I ovulate. Even though I'm not sure if I've been ovulating since the miscarriage I'm going to tell them I have been as I can't risk them delaying it any further. When we go in Jan I'll be asking about private tries and how many you can have without losing your nhs tries. Depending on the list when we go back (when we saw them last in June (I think) they said it was 3 months for 1st appointment) will decide on what we do ref private treatment. If I can get an appointment quick we will see what we can do here before venturing abroad. But I'm expecting they will come up with some reason why they won't help me so I'm just happy dp is on board with the Czech treatment. DP now has plans of the 1st visit for scans, SA sample to be frozen and scoping the place out and will be a good opportunity for a bit of inter railing which he has always wanted to do. Then I can have bloods and scans here and go there for egg retrieval and transfer there and if I have to will be able to go on my own.

I've learnt a lot about all of this IVF abroad stuff recently. I had read all about it a year ago but hoped it wouldn't come to that. Wish we had just bitten the bullet a year or 2 ago and done it so life hadn't been on hold like it is at the minute.
Is a freeze all cycle just as good with end results?
Can they simulate a cycle for you to have egg retrieval on a particular day? I don't know anything about this side of things. I'm just wondering as that will make it so much easier with work and time off etc.
Best of luck with what ever you decide. I'm looking forward to hearing what you decide to do and how it goes

Still learning these charts and don't know how you've shared your chart like that? I just screen shot them.
Also, that dip at 7dpo last month for you would have had me excited thinking it was an implantation dip. Or would it have needed to be more of a dip if it was implantation?
I mentioned it to dp about you getting time off as a teacher and he doesn't want to do it. I don't blame him, I won't be telling my work either. Even though we are a global company there are very few people employed, I think there are only about 100-150 people in the UK. Also, we can get his part all done over Easter and I can go back as and when needed using holidays and he can join me at the weekend if it coincides. I know it's different for everyone what will work best and I know for us telling fewer people will keep the pressure to a minimum. We haven't told any family about our impending IVF consultation with nhs or our thoughts about going abroad to do it. I don't want the attention about it. The only family member I told was my sil because she was on about going out for a night out and I've run out of excuses, my real reason is I don't want to hear her talk about babies all night and quiz me on what we are doing and so to get her off my back told her and her response was "you'll get pregnant really soon now if you've had a miscarriage" urm, not helpful, and not true, although I have read that often is the case but not when it's taken you 2 years to get to that point before hand and things are all messed up again.
Have you had phone call appointments with your clinic then? Is the 1st appointment to have scans etc? Or will you have done all of that in the UK before going? How long will you go over for? Will they still have people you can call over Xmas if they do the transfer before hand? Do you think you'll be able to have your transfer before Xmas? We discussed this at length yesterday (going abroad) and DP is on the same page now. Hoping like mad we are successful before we start the process but it's unlikely. We are unexplained with our infertility, dp's sample was very good according to the dr. I was all clear too (from hycosy) according to the dr but just don't tend to ovulate much.

Hi, chart attached.

I had been reading all about reprofit but see you can only fly direct from London so was thinking Prague may be easier. Although I'd love it if you keep in touch with your experience as I had a good read through the reprofit website and likes the sound of it all.
Very interesting you could get time off as a teacher. DP is a teacher too so he should be able to come with me. That's a relief. Although I don't know if he will want to ask for it as he is on a temporary contract and we don't want to jeopardise his position. But good to know. I also work for a global company but am terrified about asking any questions about it. My company would most likely find a reason to get rid of me if they knew what I was planning, let alone taking time off. I'm one of only 6 in the uk sales team and so to lose one is a massive thing for the company. I think I'll just take holidays as it removes questions and also more questions in the event of disappointment.

Omg rose that's brilliant! I think I've only ever had 3 like that! Hope it is a success for you before the abroad IVF! Which clinic are you looking into abroad? I've been researching one in Prague as we could fly direct and costs are £1,700 for everything! Amazing prices. We are thinking of having an IVF holiday at Easter where we can have all tests done and dp can have a sample frozen and I can go back on my own as and when necessary (dp will struggle to come back at the right time due to school). We went out with my nieces today 3yo and 6mts, we have had such a lovely time, although now they are gone I'm feeling all sad again that I won't ever get that for myself.

Thanks for the info mrspcr I'll have a look at their website now...