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Vap0 · 2015-10-14T02:50:58+00:00

Hi Thanks for taking the time to look. Would this suggest I ovulated? My opks say no as they only went about a third as dark as the control line. I definitely didn't miss it with the opks as I checked each time I went for a wee on the important dates. This is my 1st month charting and am struggling a little.

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Vap0 · 19/12/2015 10:54

Good Morning

pcr sounds crap with all the sickness but everywhere you read they say strong symptoms are a good thing. Are there any foods or smells that turn your stomach?

rose good to hear everything is on track, and even better that your work will give you paid time off! I'm in the wrong job with my employers! Good luck with your hycosy, hope everything is all nice and clear and the bit of damage they cause helps your next cycle along. When will your drugs arrive? It's all getting very real now, exciting times!

sunny I can't open your pic (stupid phone, sorry). Not sure what temps should be but if ff says you ovulated on 14th then that's good news as ifs pretty standard, the pains the next day could have been implantation? You never know. I know I implanted the day after ovulation last month.

So, I'm annoyed with myself! Dp and I are away this weekend in 4 different hotels over 4 nights and have left my thermometer in the car so don't know what my temp is doing this month. Did an opk yesterday morning and the faintest of squinter was there. Bloody hormones are all up the pole. And I've now left my opks in the car too. Idiot. Not that I'm expecting anything to happen with them. Did another frer on Thursday morning and the line had faded, still clearly there though but at least it's going. sunny I'm definitely not pregnant still, I had a scan a couple of weeks ago and they said it was a complete mc. No options at the minute unfortunately, epu won't speak to you before 6 weeks or after they tell you you've had a complete mc. Only thing Dr would do is send me for a blood test but I've been so busy and away from home I can't be bothered the time it takes to get a blood test form. Have brought another frer with me too, also in the car, and will use that maybe on sun morning and see what it says. Hoping for a negative. So with no opks and no temps I don't know what's going on this month but with being away with dp we have been Dtd every day, twice yesterday so expect that if anything is happening then we will have hopefully caught it. Will be testing on Xmas day just so I can drink with confidence or have an even merrier Xmas if we are lucky, when will you be testing sunny? Must be a similar time to me? In answer to your question rose about still positive tests, I phoned to cancel my booking apointment and asked them their thoughts, they didn't have much to say other than they will go negative over the next few weeks, and left it at that, no comment as to how many weeks or what to do if they don't. Not very helpful. And what does it mean?.... It means I'm still a little bit pregnant, which in turn means ovulation won't happen, but it still could, if my hcg levels are low enough? So all in all, I have no idea? Ha.

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Sunnydays321 · 18/12/2015 08:15

How are you feeling vapo? Sorry we can't help more with what's happening, have you seen your GP? You say you had a "strong Bfp" on frer, are these as strong as your previous positive? Was it proper bleeding or just spotting? It can take a while for hcg to get out of your system but I wouldn't have thought your lines would still be strong. I don't want to provide false hope but are you sure it was a miscarriage, lots of people do bleed in early pregnancy. Your GP should see you and take serial hcg levels at least to confirm they are going down. Or refer you to early pregnancy clinic. It's also possible to have retained products which can lead to infection so I would get checked out just to put your mind at rest. Hope you are taking things easy and looking after yourself. Xx

Not sure what's going on over here. I'm about 2 weeks into this cycle. Temps really rocky!! My temps in the morning seem to be my highest of the day, surely they are supposed to lowest when I wake up! Anyways FF thinks I OVd on cycle day 14, but I'm sure I didn't! I got some pretty bad pelvic pain on the morning of cycle day 15, but didn't quite feel like OV pain (not the same as last month), and no positive opks yet. I did think it was getting darker 2 days ago but not positive, and lighter again now. Don't think Iv missed OV cos last month I had strong positives for two whole days, and Iv tested twice a day. Here's my chart.

Any temping experts fancy having a look at my chart?

MrsPCR · 17/12/2015 17:53

Vap sorry to hear you're still getting positives. It seems so cruel just waiting to be able to move on. I hope you do get something from your fertility appointment in January.

I'm still really sick every few days and feel sick in the morning but it's so much better than it was and it doesn't bother me so much anymore. Almost used to it now! I think it's here to stay!

Good luck when you get the drugs rosebud. I don't know much about fertility treatment but I have a friend who did private IVF about 15 years ago and she said they were great at giving her every drug under the sun unlike NHS to give her the best chance and they conceived first time.

RoseBud2015 · 17/12/2015 16:26

Vap Sorry to hear you are still getting positive results- what does that mean? Were you expecting them to be negative by now? Sorry for the stupid questions- I have no idea how it all works. Your chart looks like its starting to settle down now though and the EWCM certainly suggests that you will ov soon. Fingers crossed things get back to 'normal' soon for you x What did your temp do this morn?

Provera caused a bleed 4 days after the last (of 5) days of tablets as planned. I have just about stopped now and I'm CD5. Haven't bothered temping so far this cycle cos I have a HyCoSy booked for 23rd Dec so cant do anything until then anyhow- figured it would be better not to know if I am ov'ing and miss it!

I've ordered and paid for my first round of IVF drugs. They are in the post from Czech at the mo. My work (I'm a teacher) have agreed my paid 8 days off work which I'm so relieved about (and a little shocked if I'm completely honest!) They are even paying to have my lessons covered properly while I'm gone which takes all the guilt off of my shoulders. I cannot give them exact dates of when I will be gone until this cycle ends, but they seem fine about that. Things are getting very real now!

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Vap0 · 16/12/2015 22:05

Chart and pathetic opk from today

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Vap0 · 16/12/2015 22:03

Hi All

Apologies for my absence, I've been trying to make sense of it all and failed. I hope everyone is still about!

Welcome jaffa sorry we all disappeared. Your chart is looking pretty blurred so can't see it well at all but ff seems to think you have ovulated and I think it's fairly accurate. I can't see the dates or anything but expect you may have tested by now? Any exciting news?

So, i did a frer on sat am and it was still a massive BFP which really set me back. Had also just dipped a CB stick and thought there was no point continuing with the £2 per day habit if I still have hcg in my system. So have decided not to use them this month. Spotting stopped quite a few days ago now which is great! And had ewcm yesterday and today. Chart isn't doing much yet (attached), it's too early to say what is going on. I also bought some cheap opk's but am realising more and more that I have problems with my hormone levels. Day 21 was far too low on the month I conceived and now 2 failed pregnancies. Non existent opk's even though my body is telling me I'm about to ovulate. Kind of looking forward to seeing ff in a week or so to see what it says. It's all very frustrating this whole situation. I have my fertility dr appointment Jan 18 so hoping they will offer some clomid to help boost ovulation or some progesterone to help support the pregnancy early on, or even better, both! Not actually expecting any help though as my dr is a total arse.

rose how are you getting on with your provera? I should really have thought of speaking with the Czech clinics about just getting some help with either getting pregnant or retaining a pregnancy. I dont know why but I had it in my mind they were an IVF place only. You've given me an idea there. Especially if they give you provera when trying naturally. Are there any symptoms from taking provera? How is the natural ttc going this month?

Dp told me tonight we were not dtd, it's far too late. To be honest I, not interested either but if I get my spike in temp tomorrow morning I'll be really cross. We did dtd last night but I just feel like we need to give it everything we have.

pcr how is your pregnancy going? Any more nausea?

sunny thanks for your kind words

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Jaffacakey · 09/12/2015 15:04

So sorry for your lass Vap0, I have ran across this thread looking at other peoples charts as I have no idea what they mean as this is my first month temping.

Please see attached my chart :)

Sunnydays321 · 06/12/2015 13:36

Oh sorry vap0. I know it's hard but Making a human is so mind bogglingly complicated it's amazing it works as often as it does. When a pregnancy doesn't stick it's usually just that one of the millions of things that has to happen, didn't quite happen right. I know that doesn't make it any easier, and it all the loss of hope of what could have been. but fingers crossed for you next time it's a sticky one!! Hope you are feeling. Well and looking after yourself. Xx

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Vap0 · 06/12/2015 11:05

Hi
Thanks all.
Hpt has gone negative this morning so hope it's all over fairly quickly.
Need to get trying again.
We seem have to worked out how to do this conception lark.
Now I just need to work out how to hold on to the next one.
How is everyone else doing?
Any poas any time soon?

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RoseBud2015 · 06/12/2015 09:03

Thinking of you Vap Hope you're OK x

Sunnydays321 · 03/12/2015 19:33

Oh vap0. How much is there? How many weeks are you? Any pain. Have you spoken to your GP, if you haven't you can speak to 111 tonight (or the out of hours doctor number) in your area and get a referral to EPAC. Lots of people bleed and go onto have normal pregnancies. Look after your self lovely xx

RoseBud2015 · 03/12/2015 17:31

So sorry vap There are no words ......

MrsPCR · 03/12/2015 14:48

Vap0. I'm so sorry to hear this. I do so hope you are wrong! look after yourself

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Vap0 · 03/12/2015 11:31

I'm bleeding
Bright red
It's all over

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RoseBud2015 · 02/12/2015 20:07

Sorry for AF Sunny Onto the next cycle! On the positive side your chart had a lovely clear pattern. Lets hope your next cycle is shorter x

Fingers crossed for your bloods Vap How are you feeling symptom wise?

I got my prescription emailed to me on Tuesday and have been emailing different pharmacies for quotes. The cheapest by far is Reprofit's own pharmacy at £165 inc postage! I was budgeting for closer to £1000 so very, very happy with that. It's low because we will be on such low levels of stimulation drugs.

CD22 for me. Defo no ov this cycle and no sign of it on it's way- my chart looks crappy. So I'm going to start provera tomorrow or Friday and move onto the next cycle. Need to get a HyCoSy booked in for beginning of next cycle. We will then TTC naturally next cycle before IVF starts in January! I love a plan!

MrsPCR · 02/12/2015 18:30

Oh fingers crossed no more scans for me! Nearly 24 weeks now so will only be growth scans.

MrsPCR · 02/12/2015 18:30

Fingers crossed for the results tomorrow Vap! Brown spotting is normally fine as it's old gunk so fingers crossed it stays brown or disappears. A lot of people spot and have perfectly healthy babies at the end.

Sorry to hear AF has arrived Sunny. Fingers crossed your cycles are at least shortening to give you a better shot at fertile window! I used pound land OPK strips. Pack of 5. They were very reliable and could justify £1-2 a month.

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Vap0 · 02/12/2015 11:51

sunny sorry about af but at least there is that positive of being able to enjoy loads of blue cheese, pate, soft boiled eggs and booze over Xmas. Such a long cycle. Can dr's do anything to help bring them down? Best of luck with opk's. P.s. When you're picking them make sure you read reviews as I had a pack of 59 which were duff and really affected my mental state. I settled on the CB ones but at £2 per stick it will be super expensive for such a long cycle so they probably won't be ideal for you.

No news here. Just called dr's in the hope I may get my blood results early, no luck. She said they should be back for tomorrow so will try then and see what they say. Not holding my breath for them giving them to me as they wouldn't without me speaking with the dr last time. Had loads more brown spotting today and yesterday. Not sure what to think. Hpts are looking good though so just hoping I'm a weirdo who just spots in early pregnancy.m the positive side it that it's brown and not red. Just so eager to hear about these results and get booked in for a scan next week.

How are you getting on rose

Are you due another scan at all pcr

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Sunnydays321 · 02/12/2015 08:13

Temp did go back up... But AF has definitely arrived this morning. Along with some lovely cramps! Definitely not spotting. But that's ok, I feel positive. last cycle was 98 and this one is 52, so hopefully going in right direction. And get to eat and drink all the good stuff over Xmas. I think my next chance will not be until after Xmas as I can't see this cycle being "normal" length. Not going to start temping again until I start opks again. That will give me a couple of weeks off. I'm sure my sleep has been more disrupted temping coz I'm subconsciously thinking about temping so every time I wake up in the night (which is a lot, normal for me) I worry about when to temp, how long Iv been asleep etc. just going to enjoy this 2 weeks off. Xx

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Vap0 · 02/12/2015 08:03

Yes! What pcr Said ^

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MrsPCR · 01/12/2015 18:29

Be hopeful! Implantation dip! Fingers crossed it's back up tomorrow!

Sunnydays321 · 01/12/2015 06:46

Hi. Rose I completely missed your post about your prescription. That sounds a bit overwhelming, sourcing own drugs etc. I have seen (when Iv been nosing) on the infertility board, and the berries thread people talk about cheapest pharmacies to source Ivf drugs, might be worth an ask on those threads. Exciting!

My temp dipped right down to cover line today. Either late implantation or short literal phase and AF is on her way, felt really pms yesterday and cramping so think I might be out. Just got to wait and see what next couple of days bring. X

Sunnydays321 · 30/11/2015 19:54

Fingers crossed vapo for your blood results. That's horrible that your boss is being like that, don't let it get to you. X

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Vap0 · 30/11/2015 18:54

Hi rose do they give you a prescription for the drugs? How do you source them yourself? Sounds very scary but at the same time exciting! When will you start taking the drugs?

Is the temp still up sunny?

I've just had my blood taken and expect results on Friday. Hoping like mad they are 1200+. Had a mega stressful time back to work today after my sick week last week. My boss is a total dick and has given me a massively hard time for being off and quizzing me about my illness which of course I'm not telling him about which irritated him more. Argh! Hoping the stress of today hasn't had a bad effect on things! Spottinghas eased off today, still a little this morning but none now. You'll think I'm mad but now I'm scared the spotting has stopped as that's what happens before mc 1. I think this is just going to be stressful until I see that heartbeat.

Thanks for all of the well wishes ladies! Will be back in touch with the blood results on Friday! Everything crossed!

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RoseBud2015 · 30/11/2015 18:16

Vap Any news on those bloods? Thinking of you!

I have just received my protocol via email from Reprofit and I think it is the mini IVF protocol with low stimulation drugs to avoid OHSS.
I haven't received my prescription yet but have been told it will follow shortly so now everything is becoming very real and I'm freaking out a little bit! I feel completely out of my depth. Next step is to source my own drugs!