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TTC for 10 months and the rest. Ten plussers welcome. Thread 2.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 11:21

We have been so busy chatting I've started a new thread. Welcome all 10+ ladies. Hope we all have some luck on this thread.

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MPP81 · 15/12/2015 10:25

They mentioned that Lucie, but DP is worried about being able to 'perform' somewhere that feels 'sciency' though I've explained he'll likely have to at some point. Just got his results! I'm amazed at the speed, but it's not the best news. 1.4 million, though they did manage to test motility this time, which came back at 57.1%. He said there were other figures but he didn't have a pen. Outcome is, they would suggest ICSI, but will discuss further with us on Thursday.

Is it expensive to stay in Czech? Do they help you find accommodation etc? Where do you fly from? The whole thing intrigues me!

lucieloos · 15/12/2015 10:11

Hi Star, I should be off to Czech for egg collection mid Jan. We will only stay for 1 or 2 nights.

MPP, your dh can go to the clinic and do the sample there. My DH did that on the first sample and they tested it straight away and rang him before he even got to work with the results. Second time he did it at home and we got it there within the time limit but it was then left on reception desk for ages and tested much later than the World Health Organisation guidelines.

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MPP81 · 15/12/2015 10:00

Thanks Star! Sorry for the baby bomb, though it's positive that you don't feel too bitter? You're definitely a better person than me! That's how I feel re: why would this month be any different, but I keep trying to tell myself it's always worth hoping. Fingers crossed for you.

SA delivered, though only just within the time limit, AND I bloody lost some! Had the pot tilted at the wrong angle and missed the, ummmm, initial eruption. Great. Lady at the desk said it looked ok but any problems and they'll let us know. Confused

star1980 · 15/12/2015 08:24

Good luck for today Sammy, and trixie and mpp for Thursday. Lots of appointments this week... Hope there's good news all round.
Trixie, is your appt the nhs one or private? Hope they shed some light on the biopsy results and you can make a plan.

Lucie, when are you off to Czech? How long will you have to stay?

Nothing to report over here. 7dpo but not expecting this cycle to be any different to the previous 13 or so. Pregnancy announcement at a Christmas do last night - feel genuinely happy for her and not too bitter actually which is saying something. Maybe it's Christmas cheer?!

lucieloos · 15/12/2015 07:19

Ahh good luck to you too MPP crossing my fingers for a good sample. Yes it is a little strange being on bcp, it's only for a couple of weeks though so not too bad.

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MPP81 · 14/12/2015 23:43

Good luck tomorrow Sammy! As Lucie said, hopefully you'll get a plan in place.

I bet it feels weird being on bcp when ttc Lucie. Hoping all is well with you.

Tomorrow morning, we hand in DP's sample for our private SA, ready for consultation on Thursday. Hoping it's at the very least the same as the first one which was less than a month ago, though obviously crossing fingers for an improvement. Hmm

lucieloos · 14/12/2015 21:47

I know what you mean Sammy. I'm always nervous of the most straight forward of appts even though I've been through it all before. You will be ok though. It will be good to talk about things and hopefully come up with a plan.

I've started bcp now ready for my next cycle. I have to start buserelin around New Years and then I'm good to go.

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loopylou1984 · 14/12/2015 21:36

Thank you Lucie. I'm scared. I'm not sure what of, but I am.

Trixie - great news that your biopsy results are ok in theory, look forward to your update on Thursday. Xx

lucieloos · 14/12/2015 15:35

Good luck with your appt tomorrow Sammy.

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loopylou1984 · 12/12/2015 22:27

Just place marking as fell off the thread. Will catch up soon! Sorry for being so rubbish recently. Xx

lucieloos · 11/12/2015 13:57

That's great you have the results trixie. Hopefully your clinic can shed some more light when you go in for your appt.

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MPP81 · 11/12/2015 13:42

Thanks for the welcome Trixie! This is another aspect I know nothing about, so all I can say is I'm hoping the results are what you wanted them to be, and that the timing of when they were taken doesn't make a difference.

Trixietwenty16 · 11/12/2015 10:24

My clinic e-mailed me my biopsy result. I just printed them off at work but for some reason it went to the main printer in reception rather than my individual printer next to me?! Hence mad rush down two flights of stairs to retrieve it - clearly says lab for reproductive medicine and immunology at the top so our receptionist would have known about my struggles! My boss knows cos I thought it would be easier if he understood why I would need time off. I only have three colleagues and would be incredibly surprised to be baby bombed at work. I have started unfollowing anyone who posts a scan pic/pregnancy announcement on FB though.

Remember Lucie that next year is the year!

Welcome MPP81, good to have you with us, though obviously sucks that you are also going through this. I've seen ladies on here report improved SA results after supplements etc.

My biopy result seems to be ok btw. Don't really understand it but the comment says 'Stromal regulatory activity appears adequate. Positive and negative control sections have been evaluated demonstrating appropriate tissue reactivity with the CD57 and FoxP3 monoclanal antibodies'. We're at the clinic next Thursday, the thing that concerns me is that everything I've read seems to talk about the biopsy being taken around a week after ov and mine was taken on CD12.

lucieloos · 10/12/2015 21:22

MPP, I've responded to your message.

Sometimes if you do the cycles too close together then your ovaries don't get as much chance to recover and don't respond as well.

Yes that's exactly why I don't want to tell people in work. Just wish I had a job where I worked from home and didn't have to listen to the daily baby chat.

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MPP81 · 10/12/2015 18:55

Ahhhhhh, I worked in a place like that once. Everybody tells at least one person and everything is an open secret.

I don't really know what to say re: Easter dates. I'm not clued up enough on this part of ttc yet to even offer an opinion. Why would you not respond as well if it was too close?

I have pm'd you DP's SA results as I was a bit worried about hogging the thread, but if you get chance to take a look and want to respond in here instead of pm that's completely good with me. Please don't feel like you have to look though :)

lucieloos · 10/12/2015 16:21

No not really MPP there is nobody that I'm that close to that I would want to tell and I wouldn't trust them to not tell anybody else either as everybody loves to gossip in that place.

I've just been working out dates for my NHS treatment and whatever I do it seems like part of it will fall over Easter. I don't think the NHS does scans or collection etc on bank hols or weekends but I really don't want to wait another month either. I could do it in Feb but worried that might be too close to the Czech one and I might not respond as well. It's all so complicated!!

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MPP81 · 10/12/2015 16:14

That absolutely sucks, Lucie, and it must be horrible to have to deal with that every day. I think it would drive me insane. Is there anyone at work you would feel comfortable telling, just so you could have someone who understands what you're going through if you feel upset or irritated when the topic comes up?

lucieloos · 10/12/2015 12:21

Ok no probs MPP.

Had my appt at the NHS clinic this morning which went ok. They had to put the fan on me whilst taking blood as I came over all hot Blush I had the scan then and they are very secretive lol. She said the womb all looks ok and then looked the left ovary and said hmm err the left ovary looks noooorrrmmaaal and counted to 5 which I presume was 5 follicles then she looked at the right side and didn't say anything at all and then it was over. I said is everything ok and I just got yes it's ok. My left ovary normally has less follicles than my right so I'm just hoping there was at least the same on the right side. Next appt 26th Jan and we will set up the treatment protocol and get the meds. I need to start bcp tomorrow for my treatment in Czech. It's all go.

In other news when I got into work the man I sit opposite had just announced his wife was pregnant with their third child. Everyone was congratulating him and playing the name game! This is the 4th time this has happened to me this year with someone I work quite closely with. 2 of the others are fairly close to due date now. It's so hard going through all this with everybody around me talking babies constantly. I haven't told anybody in the office about our situation and really don't want to.

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MPP81 · 10/12/2015 09:06

That would be great, thanks Lucie! When I get in later, I shall send them over. That's fab it was all so quick for you too! Having a plan seems to help I think. I'm too impatient for all this waiting.

Hi star, and thanks for the welcome! I haven't had the blood tests done yet. When we first went to the very pregnant gp, she was more interested in the pain I was having and sent me for the ultrasounds first but by the time I'd been and the results came back, she was off on maternity leave. The new gp said he wanted an SA and then we would 'decide what to do next' but when the results came back yesterday he just referred us straight off. He didn't say so, but the impression I got was that the results meant he felt referral was necessary regardless, which I found strange as I expected him to suggest a retest in 3 months first. Not that I'm complaining about early referral, with that waiting list!

I know what you mean about the wedding. When we first started planning, we wanted a small one with our close family and friends but we quickly got caught up in the ridiculous 'if we invite him, we have to invite her too' etc, and it's turned out to be rather large, which I now deeply regret. Im probably going to be thinking 'for every x amount of people, we could have had another go at IVF if needed' :( feel guilty saying that

star1980 · 10/12/2015 07:07

Welcome MPP, sorry you've found yourself here. Did your GP do all the fertility blood tests already or will you be having those privately too? I think with that wait time I'd go private straight off too. It's annoying that it's such a lottery - not everyone has the money to go private, it just doesn't seem fair.
We're also planning to get married next year but I really wanted to have a baby first because of my age (35). Not sure what to do now and if we end up having to pay for treatment I'm going to regret spending it on a wedding.

lucieloos · 10/12/2015 07:06

No it didn't take long to organise at all. I had to complete quite a detailed form and then was allocated a doctor who emailed me to discuss my treatment protocol. Then I was given prescriptions to get the meds and I was good to go!

I can help you with the sperm results if you have the details. We have had many of them so unfortunately know too much about it. My dh has low motility and morphology.

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MPP81 · 09/12/2015 23:57

That's fab Lucie! Fingers firmly crossed for you! Did it take long to organise the first time you went?

At CRGW, we're having the initial package with the ultrasound and the SA. I've already had a pelvic ultrasound and a TVUS for some weird pains I had that the doc eventually put down as irritable bowel syndrome and nothing showed up except very slightly polycystic ovaries that apparently were not a concern. DP's SA was just a week ago, but when I explained the results the lady said he may as well have another just to check since it was included in the price, as the comments for motility and morphology came back as 'insufficient sample' though there was an additional comments that said 'motile sperm seen.' Our GP didn't really have a clue, and when we asked for more details he just said 'we don't get asked about this much here' and printed us out a copy of the SA so we're really at a loss as to how bad it actually is. Therefore, having the SA repeated where people actually can give us more info seems like a good idea.

lucieloos · 09/12/2015 18:52

Yes there was no problem at all having the scans done there and meant that I didn't need to spend so long abroad then. I will be back there in Jan for my next attempt!

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MPP81 · 09/12/2015 18:36

Thanks Lucie! I may take you up on that. I'm especially intrigued that you had your scans there for going abroad. I didn't know you could do that! Very handy to know. I'm 33 for about another week so that's our biggest factor for not waiting too. Time is creeping on and going abroad would give us more goes. Smile

lucieloos · 09/12/2015 18:26

Welcome MPP ohh another south walian! I have been to CRGW many a time. We had our initial fertility investigations done there and also all my scans for my treatment abroad. I was in the same position as you in that I was referred for NHS treatment but was told it was likely to be 2 years before I would be able to begin. Given my age (34 at the time) that wasn't an option for us and we looked into going private. We felt the cost of treatment in the uk was too high and whilst we could have afforded a couple of attempts we decided to look into going abroad where it is about 50% cheaper as we knew that would allow us to have a good few more attempts if we needed it. I'm glad we did now as unfortunately we don't appear to be one of the straight forward work first time cases. If there's anything specific you won't to know about CRGW or treatment abroad then give me a shout.

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