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TTC for 10 months and the rest. Ten plussers welcome. Thread 2.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 11:21

We have been so busy chatting I've started a new thread. Welcome all 10+ ladies. Hope we all have some luck on this thread.

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Itsme247 · 29/01/2016 07:47

Hi all,

Just a quick update on the lap and dye yesterday afternoon. I was down for an hour and he's managed to clear both tubes!!

I feel like I've done a million sit ups yesterday my muscles feel so tender but the shoulder pain is the worst. Hopefully it will go soon!

Still found it quite amusing as he handed me my IVF referral papers after telling me I'm in good working order, because DH's motility issues. Love an excersise in box ticking :(

Anyway, at least now it feels like a miracle might happen and takes the pressure off a single chance at IVF. With both of us challenged I felt like we were never going to get anywhere, but now it's only one of us our chances have improved!

MPP81 · 28/01/2016 23:49

Lucie, not long to wait for the nhs cycle now then! Hoping time flies for you!

Sorry for AF Sammy Flowers Hope you enjoy the weekend though.

Can I ask, how much selenium is in the pills, and are they extra or the standard amount? I take seven seas trying for a baby which say they have selenium but should I be taking more than that? No news from me. I'm CD20 but haven't temped or used opks this month so assume I've passed ov but no idea what dpo.

MPP81 · 28/01/2016 23:43

Hi all! Haven't had chance to catch up properly yet but just wanted to say hope you're hanging in there, Banana! I see your points about waiting to poas. I like to think I'd wait, but I imagine I'd pee on anything and everything out of impatience. Fx for you! :)

bananafish81 · 28/01/2016 20:17

On the plus side with selenium your nails will grow ridiculously fast! Both DH and I noticed that when taking selenium, and he also found it completely cleared up small patches of dry skin he had too (which makes sense as medicated dandruff shampoos contain selenium as the active ingredient)

Hope it helps all our linings!

BorisIsBack · 28/01/2016 19:27

I started taking selenium too Sammy the pills I have are also vile. They'd better work :)

loopylou1984 · 28/01/2016 17:24

I was right, af is here.
Not even sure what cycle this is now.

It's my sisters birthday this weekend so at least I can have some drinks with her! Bright side I guess.

I started taking the selenium pills.... They smell vile, actually made me gag! Anything that bad must do some good! Xx

bananafish81 · 28/01/2016 09:38

Makes sense lucie - thrilled to bits you have the NHS cycle so soon. You're gonna have a whole football team of blasts (and a subs bench!) :)

Thanks Boris - OTD @ 12dp5dt isn't till Thu bloody 4th Feb, DH is rationally completely right that we shouldn't test early but obv by the time I get to next Mon (9dp5dt) I am obviously going to be itching to test

I will be seriously conflicted as obv I want to do this together and whatever the outcome I don't really want to do it alone. If I test early and it's BFN then I'll be still hoping I've just tested too early, whereas if I wait and it's BFN - whilst I might not like the result, at least I'll know I can trust it's pretty definitive.

But obv I am desperately hoping it'll be a BFP and I'll be able to find out sooner. I expect to go round the houses on 'do I secretly test early or not' quite a bit!!

Chronic pain really sucks but I realise now how well managed it was now that it's completely uncontrolled, and this week I'm feeling like a barely functional member of society.

Burning through the Netflix binge watching though in an effort to stay off Google!!

lucieloos · 27/01/2016 21:30

Banana, have been wondering how you are doing! Sorry to hear you are in so much pain. Really hope you little Duracell blasto is burrowing in nicely.

My NHS cycle will be starting on the second af after my last treatment. First af should be showing up in the next couple of days. I've tried leaving a longer period of time between cycles before but still end up with the same so I thought I may as well just crack on and go for it. Good to know about the mini IVF success. I will have to check out the low amh board.

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BorisIsBack · 27/01/2016 20:59

Banana I love the name of your blasto. When are you holding out to test? You poor thing having to deal with the pain, I can't imagine how you cope. X

bananafish81 · 27/01/2016 20:24

Hi ladies, hope you’re well

lucie excited for you to have your NHS cycle - how long will that be between stims cycles? Amazing to have the NHS funding as well as the blasts in the bank

Loads of women on my low AMH / high FSH thread on FF have done really well on mild cycles, including at Reprofit :)

Boris sounds like the right decision, all terribly stressful either way - hope you can get yourself prepped and on an even keel ready for next month

big hugs sammy it’s so tough - you’re doing amazingly, and so excited for you to start your FET. Exciting that you still get an NHS go after having gone private!

Trixie the immunes are a tough one - for what it’s worth, I asked my consultant what his take on it was, and he said in his experience the level II tests weren’t always terribly useful or reliable, and he generally treated empirically for implantation failure w/ intralipids, pred, clexane etc. He was very anti IVIG and Humira because they’re cytotoxic, however he isn’t an immunes or recurrent miscarriage specialist like Dr G or Dr Shehata (both of whom are treating friends of mine for various immunes problems), it's so hard to know what's right. I don't think there IS a right or wrong answer tbh with any of these things

mpp hope you’re well?

I’m 4dp5dt, obv 2ww is going at a glacial pace!

The big issue for me is my pain management, as I have chronic pain from a spinal injury (smashed my back up), which is usually controlled with a whacking great dose of morphine strength drugs . Except of course I’m now off all my pain meds (except amitriptyline which does fuck all, and OTC cocodamol which doesn’t even touch the sides) and I’m in agony Sad

Work is not even happening right now as I’m essentially on semi bed rest, which of course is not ideal for keeping me distracted and off Google!

Hoping our little duracell blasto (as we have called our AA embryo!) is making itself comfy, not expecting anything but obv very much hoping…

lucieloos · 27/01/2016 20:11

Boris, sounds like you made the right decision in not going to London. Your next cycle will be here before you know it and at least now you can order the meds from Czech and save yourself some money.

That's amazing news about purdie! Her pregnancy seems to have flown by! Please tell her huge congrats from me too. I love the name as well.

Sammy, sorry you have been feeling down. If it is af then only one more cycle to go until your get your snow baby Smile

I had a chat with my Czech doctor today and I have a back up plan ready for if the NHS round doesn't work now. I am going to give mini IVF a try. So basically low stimms and clomid to try to get a handful of eggs, maybe 2 or 3 but better quality than with higher stimms. I was a little worried about the low level of stimms but he has said that we have nothing to lose apart from the cost of the meds which will only be a few hundred pounds. He said that if the scans don't look good we can cancel then or if we have egg collection and they don't collect anything they don't charge us anything anyway so he is right and I think we are going to do it and look at it as a little experiment. I think I will feel a lot more relaxed doing it as I won't have any expectations. Seeing as we are only getting 2 or 3 eggs now anyway it seems like the way to go. It is a lot cheaper as well and he said they have had some very surprising results with it compared to higher stimms.

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loopylou1984 · 27/01/2016 19:59

Well I made some money selling old furniture so that's helped! I'll be ok, just feel a bit 'wow is me' right now.

I don't think she would mind, she used to use Nancy's name in posts, but yeah report yourself to be on the safe side. Tell her if she gets a chance and would like to pm me a photo id love to see him. Xx

BorisIsBack · 27/01/2016 19:17

Her boy is called [name removed by MNHQ at posters request] (hope that's ok to put it on here, might report this post to MN soon and ask them to delete it) He looks gorgeous.

Sorry you are feeling down today. hormones are crap to us. Hope this evening leave you feeling happier.

loopylou1984 · 27/01/2016 19:00

Boris - well done on making a decision. For what it's worth I think that's the right choice, I think you would have been so stressed if you had had to rush about.

Oh Purdie! Please tell her congratulations from me. I really miss her over on the bumsnet thread. Do you know what she has named him? Hope little Nancy is enjoying being a big sister.

I just feel so sad today, I think af must be onher way. I nearly burst in to tears at work for no real reason today. Xx

BorisIsBack · 27/01/2016 18:50

Oh and sammy and lucie did you hear that 'purdie' had a baby boy the other night? All seem really healthy and happy.

BorisIsBack · 27/01/2016 18:47

Sammy and Trixie keep the faith, it's nerve wracking but you are both doing really sensible things to get your babies. You both have so much knowledge, knowledge is ultimately power.

I decided not to go to London, had a difficult discussion with DH last night about it all. I ended up feeling so glum I thought we should take another cycle and not rush this. He's really busy with work and has lots on his plate. He can't really take in all that I need him to at the moment, but next month should be better and easier. I need his full support.

lucieloos · 27/01/2016 11:02

Oh ok didn't realise it was at the same clinic Sammy! Well at least you get plenty of blasts so you can have several attempts and try different things so that's a positive.

I've checked with a couple of doctors and for my age out of the 4 blasts we have they would expect 1 or possibly 2 to be normal so just goes to show it could take a good few attempts to get to that one. If I transferred them all individually we might not get to the good one until the last go and so would have had 3 failed transfers. I think it's just a numbers game with this thing and you have to stick with it and obviously get lining and stuff at its optimum too. We will get there though.

Trixie, sounds like the test is worth doing to find out what's going on in there and hopefully give you some peace of mind.

Boris, what did you decide to do?

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Trixietwenty16 · 27/01/2016 10:11

Exciting that things are happening with you soon Sammy. I feel the same way, a bit nervous about OHSS but majorly worried about coping with another BFN and plagued with the what if it never works thoughts the last few days. I think we just have to put that to one side though and concentrate on our next cycles, there is every chance that they will work.

ps Lucie, meant to say last night, I'm not sure about the treatment re TH1:TH2, I think it's more to find out about what is going on with my NK cells and I guess the results could affect dose/timings. Still pretty confused but hoping to book in for the test on the 8th and then will see what the results are.

loopylou1984 · 27/01/2016 08:35

Yeah it's the same clinic so they'll know anyway, but yes, after this FET we are still eligible for our full NHS entitlement of one fresh two frozen, so no stress there.

I'm not nervous about the treatment, (although slightly concerned about getting ill again from the hormones), it's the outcome I'm worried about. What if it never works? Xx

lucieloos · 27/01/2016 06:51

All sounds very positive and you have a good few options there! How many attempts do you get on the NHS and are you allowed to tell them about your private treatment without it affecting it?

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loopylou1984 · 27/01/2016 06:27

Yeah that's right, private FET first. Medicated again I think, at least partly, to try and build my lining up a bit more. Xx

lucieloos · 26/01/2016 22:35

Oh that's brilliant Sammy I didn't realise it was so soon. Is the plan to still transfer another frostie and then a fresh round on the NHS if that doesn't work?

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loopylou1984 · 26/01/2016 22:29

Lucie - your NHS consult sounds great, I have mine on the 23rd, so fingers crossed that goes as smoothly!

I'm nearing appointment times now, it's seems a life time ago that we had the blast transferred, but was only 2 months ago!
I have a private nurse consultation on the 3rd (just because I haven't had one in ages!), then we go on holiday. Then NHS consultation on 23rd, about the same time as af will be due (I hope), then off we go. Kinda scared about starting it all again :(. Xx

loopylou1984 · 26/01/2016 18:34

Boris - for a medicated cycle I don't think it matters if it is off the back of a funky cycle. My natural FET didn't work out straight off the back of my abandoned medicated FET as hormones were all over the place, but you're body won't be having a natural reaction to .... Well whatever this was! I hope this makes sense, really struggling to write what I mean! Lol. Xx

Trixietwenty16 · 26/01/2016 18:27

Great that your appointment went well Lucie, all sounds really good!

Could you sleep on it Boris and see how you feel in the morning.