So it's John Wayne vs Les Dawson in The Great British Pee Off and Prty's judging... get ready to be basted, lovelies!

Think positive Prty! This thread is long overdue some BFPs, feels like it's been months, and I have a good feeling about you!

mrsflowers - sorry for the bitchy af - hope she buggers off soon

Thanks everyone - I'm so annoyed with it too - bloody app. It changed it from last Sunday when I was basted all the days leading up to and twice on the day to last Thursday (cd19) where we hadn't done any basting since the Sunday because of dh's shifts, I was basted the day after but that would have been too late.
glitter - sorry about the long cycle and the babybomb- I bet that did hurt inside, it will be your turn soon.
Have we got any poas action soon from anyone? We need lots of bfps on here

Hi all.. Ooh sounds interesting prty fx for you!!

Sorry about the date shift kitten how annoying!!

Still no AF for me.. CD55.. I guess this cycles going to be a long one like the last

I met up with the friend who baby bombed me Sunday, I was dreading it! It wasn't as bad as i imagined however she starting telling me the whole story about when she found out she was PG and told her DH and I burst into tears!! She thought I was incredibly 'cute' as I obviously was so happy for her, which I am but just hurt a lot inside too....

Hi all! I'm suffering from the worst AF EVER! Is it just me or do they seem to get worse each time? Seems to be designed that way to make it even more miserable when TTC!

Boo to the change Kitten. Did you manage to get basted before or has it blown it completely out?

FX the sore boob gets sorer and the bad taste sticks Prty!

prty - I imagine everything is a symptom too!
How is everyone today? I'm in a huff as ff has adjusted my ovulation date as my temps just keep going up - I wasn't basted on my new ovulation date so am not impressed at all . I feel cheated it can just be moved like that!

I use Ovia and Glow. I like the way Ovia gives you little daily tips and facts, but I find glow to be more accurate in terms of picking up ovulation. For example Glow gave me an ovulation label the last two months (when I clearly did ovulate, whereas Ovia didn't, and therefore was way out on what it called my "fertile window". It teaches you not to trust the fertile Windows on the app at all. Go by CM and temps and cervical position I would (ooh, that was a bit Yoda!)

Which app do you use? I have got a sheet they included with the opk kits but might switch to an app

Have to post two showing the beginning and end of cycle...

Shary how annoying!! At least you have the referral now. Get down to the docs, pronto!!
Neetie and Prty, hope your basting worked!!
I'm at the tail end of my perid, basically gone, so tonight gonna start the basting as well:-)
Funny thing though with my temps. I know you're all as clueless as me about temping, but my temp has dropped since AF, but not below the coverline. In my book "Taking Charge of your fertility, it says if your temp stays above your coverline for 18 days, you are almost certainly preggers. Today is day 18. I did dip onto coverline on day of Af, but then went up again. Not as high as after ovulation, but higher than AF dip. Weird. I tested yesterday out of confusion with IC, and it was BFN. Anyway, I hope it's OK to have high temps before ovulation, i'll need quite a big temp shift! I'll post a couple of pics in a mo. Let me know if you have any insights... Thanks guys!

Good luck prty. DH off to China soon but managed a quick basting this morning might be a bit early but if the little buggers can swim around for a few days and I ovulate early you never know. Af pretty much done so will test from tomorrow.
Need help with the temping thing though as not sure when best to do it.

MrsF sounds like a great plan. A break may be as good as a holiday.

Thank you all of you for your sympathies with the arrival of the red bitch from hell lol. I was really disappointed this morning, thought we had a real shot with it this month with all the symptoms. Back to feeling upbeat though, it'll happen eventually. (It WILL, dammit!)

Just this minute received a letter from my GP with details of my referral in, via the next door neighbour! It was posted to me on the 30th October! Fuming!!

Well these arrived today so all set for next month they even included a fertility chart just need to figure out how to use it lol

I have those fleeting thoughts too Funny, real moments of doubt and despair actually! But like you say you have to keep going and keep positive. I am actually a massive believer in visualisation and the power of the mind, that's half why I want a break. I am sure I am thinking about it too much...I sometimes feel like it is ruling my life and I am sure it is ultimately having a negative impact. Not sure I will entirely forget about it all but I think stress is a massive factor in this TTC lark, like you said Hippy. For me it less about drinking/eating and more that I really feel like I need some R&R to take my mind away from it all, even if it doesn't work is only slightly. I have been so cautious and tried to do all I can the past few months, fat lot of good it has done me as I am still here in the throws of yet another AF! I think it will be good for DH too, as know it stresses and worries him. Am really hoping that over anniversary we can have some time to just be 'us' again. Then I can be all refreshed to turn into Physco Temper in the New Year! [grins]

Sorry - that was a bit of a brain dump. It's quite here at work today so I am procrastinating online!

We are certainly due a run of bfps soon I'd say. Af arrived today, completely expected. I'm on holiday and packed everything for Af and didn't bother to bring a pregnancy test. I just knew we didn't dtd enough. Not feeling too bad about it (sun, beach etc has made me feel a bit better ). I am having fleeting thoughts that we aren't going to be one of the lucky ones to ever have children but going to stick at it and will nag dp to have a sperm test done as we've got the referral from gp. Envious of those taking a break for Xmas, I want to but I know that in the back of my mind I'd be calculating dates etc so I'm not even going to pretend I'm having a break. Will start temping when I'm back from hols. Hope everyone is OK, feels like there has been a run of negative tests and afs. Roll on some positives for us all!

I will be here! Still going keep BDing but going to try and save my sanity a bit by indulging myself over my anniversary and Xmas! Actually feeling quite good about it today and excited, looking forward to lots of greedy dinners washed down with wine and prosecco!!

FX for you all xxx

Flowers, enjoy your break. I hope you'll drop in here form time to time!

Hi all, so sorry about the arrival of AF Bex and flowers, and the BFN glitter. This has been a rubbish month for us all. Let's hope a bit of festive glitz cheers us all up a bit. At least we've got Strictly, good winter Telly, cosy nights in, soup, chocolate. There is something quite comforting about autumn/winter...

I'm currently on CD 5. If I'm anything like last month, I'm due to ovulate on CD9, so me and hubby better get BD-ing. I'm still at tail end of AF, so haven't BD'd yet, but determined to BD every day in lead up to OV this month, and a couple of days after. Hope hubby is up to the job. I'm going to try and take this month in moderation. Won't cut out drinking entirely, but cut out un-neccessary drinking - ie. G&T on a Monday after exhausting day, etc... Am going to temp, as I really like the clarity it gives, and also going to try and relax and look after myself as much as poss. Pamper month. Ooh, that sounds good. As I'm convinced stress doesn't help with me at all.

BTW, those temping, my temp doesn't tend to drop on day of AF. It did this month, but I've been known to get a drop on 3rd day before. Annoying I know.

Sorry bex - af is a bitch. Big hugs x