Short Luteal Phase

Flymo, the B vits seemed to do the same with me, delayed my ov but AF still arrived at same time so just gave me a shorter luteal phase.

I'm just off to buy my pineapple now... x

A pregnancy totally reboots your reproductive system so whatever your cycles were doing on dc1, it may well be completely different now.

I know I conceived my son on cd13 when my ovulation has been around day 18/19/20 now!

hi sanch I've been charting with the glow app and just looked up over my past five cycles, it reckons I have an 8 day luteal phase and a 20 day follicular phase. But I don't think I've actually had a positive opk since beginning to chart my temps... I suppose I might be missing it due to the time of day I get around to testing on any given day in my fertile phase. Am therefore focussing on the temping and seeing what the app does. we are ttc#2 as well (didn't fall as quickly as you with number 1! but am keeping positive and hoping 2ndary infertility hasn't become an issue). 6 days would be quite short, but you'll never know if anything has changed since #1 as you weren't doing all the 'science' then, so I'd just make sure you dtd as much as possible in the week or so that you think you might be fertile...
Oh, and last cycle I took B-vits as self-diagnosed slp BUT a word of warning! my temp rise didn't happen til cd 24 last month, so I had a cycle of 30 days and a 6 day LP... not good! I think it actually delayed ov instead of lengthening my LP, so have knocked on the head this cycle, and am just taking folic acid and vit c.

anyway, ramble over!!

Ok thanks, I guess I'll see over the next couple days if it stays high? Today is CD21. I did have a spike early in my cycle CD10 ish but it went right back down again.

It was probably less than 6 days as I have positive OPK saturday, so ov sunday and AF Friday, 5 days really I guess? I'm hoping it was a one off freak but as that was the first time I've used them I dont know.

I figured I'll temp til Christmas and if LP is still short I'll go in Jan and we'll then have done 10 months. Although my LP can't have been that short to concieve #1, can they change?

You you can - I'm not massively clued up on regular OPKs as I've always used the clear blue digital ones but I believe with the regular OPKs you can miss the surge (i.e if you test in the morning the surge could be in the afternoon/evening) and so you would think you'd not got a positive. However if you've got a definite temp spike then that confirms you've ovulated (past tense). Are your temps reliable? i.e. at exactly the same time every day, literally the first thing you do before you even move a muscle out of bed?

6 days is a super short LP you're right (7/8 days is my norm so I know how disappointing it feels) so I'd say keep tracking accurately for 6 months or so and then maybe try your GP. Mine didn't take me seriously at all even with 10 cycles of data so be prepared for that!

Thanks Mrs, I was kind of aware of that but my cycles are all over the place so just trying to get used to all this charting and testing stuff!

Can you ovulate without a positive OPK? Last month I had a definate positive (wasnt temping) then got AF 6 days later, hence my concern about a super short Luteal phase. I had that temp drop yesterday and a significant rise today so I'm wondering if I ov'd yesterday even though no positive OPK? I did have a slighter darker line than my normal barely there one the day before but it was no where near positive. Guess I'll find out over the next couple days if my temp stays up.

Hi mascara! Been ttc #2 since coming off the pill in March (#1 took one shag first month!) Took 12 weeks to get a proper period, then I've had a couple normal-ish for me (28-35 days) cycles, then last month after starting OPK's I got a shock with AF 6 days after a positive, making the cyle 25 days. Also concerned that since coming off the pill AF is super short and super light. Saw my GP who said it was all nothing to worry about and I was still settling down after stopping the pill. Said I wasnt too old (nearly 34) and to come back in March if still nothing. From looking at this thread and other forums I've been taking selenium, asprin and Vitamin B complex in the hope that might do something!

Its all new to me after falling so quickly with #1!!! And DH thinks I'm a loon!

I could have sworn I had tingly nipples today...but I'm not going down that fruitless road of symptom spotting!

You ovulate 12-36 hours AFTER a positive ovulation test.

I got my positive on Thursday of last week and my temperature rise on Saturday morning, meaning I ovulated sometime between Friday morning and Saturday morning.

Not posted on this thread before, but have lurked a lot as I think I have a short luteal phase.

Mascara, I read on fertility friend that temp can take a dip on day of ovulation before shooting up after, not for everyone, and not often but it does happen. You are lucky if you can that every month as you'd be able to pinpoint ov without necessarily having to wait for the sustained temp rise.

Mine dropped quite a bit today so I'm hoping I might get a +ve OPK later. My first month of temping.

Maybe your uterus just needed an extra cycle to heal after your emc mascara? It must be very frustrating waiting to get that opportunity to try again but hopefully you will be back on track next cycle.

Sorry to hear your feeling fed up Mascara, think the waiting around feeling helpless is the hardest part of it all x

There is so much to read about, I found the following on pineapple if anyones interested

natural-fertility-info.com/bromelain-pineapple-for-implantation.html

Evening primrose up to ovulation only as read it can make you contract which isn't good for a possibly implanting egg.

Grapefruit juice up to ovulation as its supposed to help with cm and then pineapple juice and pineapple core (I just eat pineapple) for luteal phase as its supposed to thicken lining of womb.

Used robitussin last month and noticed more cm. whether due to that or EPO or grapefruit I don't know haha. Made my cm smell of the cough syrup though haha.

Thats good to hear about bananas, I eat quite alot of them anyway (DH has a banana obsession) Wow sunshine, fx for you with all that!!

I'm going to start with the raspberry leaf tea and also try Robitussin this month, and booked in for reflexology on Saturday. What is the grapefruit juice for? Do you take EPO all through your cycle? Thats something else for me to google xx

Hello. Was away from iPad all of Sunday and then yesterday I could get online! Nice to have you back sunshine. Sorry to hear about AF and I've not tried the tea but have also heard it can help. I think evening primrose may have helped me last cycle as had an 11day LP!! My longest yet!

Mascara my fingers are crossed for you. I've heard you can be fertile after a MC more that usual - not sure if that's true.

Mrs good luck. Pessaries suck. My GP offered them to me for painful AF except to go in the other entrance I declined for now.

Nothing new here. Cycle day 7 for me.
AF was so light this month I wore a liner for a lot of it. Still six days in length though which was the usual.

As well as drinking grapefruit juice, taking pregnacare conception tablets and 1000mg EPO daily, I'm also adding an extra 250mg vitamin c tablets. Bring on that BFP!

Hi ladies!
Just wanted to say hello- I'm still hanging around (lurking) but nothing to report at the moment. On CD15, predicted ovulation CD29 so still some way to go. Hope everyone is okay xx