Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

Bloody hell scan was waste of time and money as looks like i d already ovulated. Had a small 11mm follicle on each side, one of which looked to be collapsing but he couldn t tell if i d ovulated one or two eggs. Only good thing was lining was good at 9.2mn. Wasn t with dr s so waiting to hear what he says but can t see any point of taking the trigger and can t see him being able to change the dose since we don t know what this one did. Arrggg so annoying !

Trying - so glad you had a good break.

hi seeking, i know its so shitty when the path gets more complex....however, i suspect if you didn't hear from the consultant about the results they are prob ok as if there was an issue u would have hoped that they would have called u back in.......also, i don't know too much but if u or DH are carrying a translocation i think it would mean 50% of embryos would be affected...not 100%....so don't panic yet.....i hope the post comes soon. its just one worry after another!

Glad you had a lovely holiday Trying, sounds like just what I need!! DrS told us to wait until next cycle before we try again. I've chased the results and my consultants pa is sending them out today so, hopefully should have results by the end of the week. Absolutely shitting myself to be honest. The reality of what could be is so scary. Very worst case scenario is 0% chance of normal pregnancy. Which would then involve donor/egg or sperm. DH is completely against donor sperm, where as I'd use donor eggs if need be. Perhaps because if still carry it, I'd have a connection to it.

Snoopy- it's so hard when your body doesn't play ball. I had several months like that and a couple where I didn't ovulate at al ( I was temping).

Drttc, I hope you're pregnant 'friend' isn't in bitch mode again. And I hope you have something to smile about on the day of the wedding.Sound alike you've got a good plan in place though.

Hula- how did it go?

Trying, you seem to have a good plan in place. I really hope you find what you're looking for or get that bit of 'luck' soon. It's got to happen!

Snoopy- I wish we could just forget as well! On babycentre you always see people saying 'don't test until after AF is due!' 'Just forget & relax and then it will happen!'.... But being on treatment makes that impossible!! Not sure what you can do except hope that blip is over with and that your next cycle is back to normal. It does seem to eventually get back to normal for everyone.

Yay Sunny!!! That's so exciting! Well on our way to seeing 3 Pred babies come out of this 2015 lot :)

Didn't notice trying was back! Sounds like a great holiday!

Sorry hula I don't know on the trigger shot question. I would presume if you had already ovulated there'd be no need for it? Would the scan be able to show how many eggs are released afterwards? I know they can sometimes see the corpus luteum.

seeking I'm glad you finally got the results. On the one hand you know you did everything you could for your little one and I would try to take it as a positive that the meds seemed to stop you miscarrying but I understand your worry about the karotyping. That has always been a worry of mine too, but there are ways to deal with it if that were the case.
Also I demand puppy pictures!

drttc it's so frustrating. I've stopped taking the steroids until the ovulation tests start to fade. But now I'm worried there could be some other factor like PCOS. It's exactly what I didn't want, to be constantly weeing on sticks and tracking everything, but I guess needs must. The second ovulation test completely bamboozled the ovia app which changed my most fertile day to yesterday but still thinks my period is starting today.

When can I expect to ovulate if I've had two positive tests?

hi drttc! sounds like a good plan. there is GOOD evidence of the role of fragmentation in miscarriage i don't know why its not so widely down or spoken about. my DH is going to have his done in a few weeks at urology appt as u have to have a certain number of sperm to do it and he didn't have enough but hoping it might have gone up (was only slightly under). however the urology doc didn't think it would be a problem as we made a good number of blastocysts in IVF and usually if its a problem the embryos die off on day 3....but anyways would rather get it checked out!

no def going to ARGC, was going back and forth with what to do. but me and DH think, seeing as we want to do another fresh cycle of ivf anyways we should go. although i found IVF OK, it wasn't v nice and i don't fancy going through millions of ivf cycles and miscarrying each time. it was quite unpleasant but bearable and worth it if it works (and i think it was that hope which made me OK during it) - lack of sleep, bloating side effects of meds, weight gain etc........i think I've got to a stage where i need to throw everything at it and i want that constant monitoring and reassurance after a bfp...the IVF side of it is what was swayed me to go there.....if it doesn't work then i have NO idea what we will do, prob just keep trying frozen cycles until money runs out!!

sorry ur having to stay with her...grrrrr...stay strong and avoid her....fingers crossed for a bfp, u do get them quickly!

Hey Trying! Sounds like the time off is exactly what you needed! Love little breaks where you can just forget... You go back to that younger version of yourself that had all this hope & confidence in the future. Lovely feeling! I'm sure the urologist appointment will go well and you'll keep banking. Are you holding off on ARGC?

Regardless of what happens, I'm waiting on money to come through on a flat sale before I invest in some more testing. Want to test for translocations on both sides, SA, and sperm fragmentation... Atm my ttc plan is to do intralipids before/at ovulation for 3 months & see what happens. I may skip Pred next month if it messes with my cycle though!

Otherwise I'm feeling pretty good! Feel like I've fully bounced back finally. However, we have a wedding this weekend... And we're sharing a cottage with THAT pregnant woman I've told you about. Will be doing my best to stick by my husbands & avoid her & her stupid comments. Oh did I mention 10dpo will be the morning of the wedding? Last time I got BFP at 10dpo.... So yeah. I may be crying sad tears for myself during the wedding ceremony haha!

sorry DRTTC forgot to say hi! i hope the intralipids were ok and that u do get lucky this cycle!!

morning girls.

sunny great news re scan
rosa - great to hear from u and that all is still going well. i hope ur right and its just a numbers game....its hard to keep the faith sometimes!

hula - loads of luck for scan today i hope there are 2 juicy follicles there if not 3!

snoopy - sorry about ur SIL, its really hard. just try limit contact with her if you find it too hard and like swannny said, its not ur baby she's having. urs will come one day. sorry ur period seems messed up. my cycles were never effected with the pred, they always came on time as usual.

seeking -was thinking about ur appt. u must be quite confused. wasn't that you were expecting to hear, this whole jorney sometimes gets more and more complicated doesn't it. i really hope its a one off thing and u don't need ivf with PGD. have u started chasing for it yet? are u still going to ttc or wait till u know results? YAYYYY TO PUPPY!

determined - no af yet?!!! what!! I'm sorry :( what a pain. SO will sort things out for you, but its so frustrating

swlondonnanny - I'm sorry u have trying for so long, it must be so frustrating. but your armed with so much information and i hope next time the tx works. if u do ivf, I'm more than happy to pass on my limited knowledge! but i hope it happens before

i had a lovely holiday was SO hot. my friend doesn't know I'm even TTC and she's single so was nice to not discuss my issues and have girly time and just switch off. i drank too much and had a lot of ice-cream!! i really needed it. don't have too much to add as TTC isn't really actively happening as chances r slim its nice to DTD when we feel like it now!! i have a follow up with my IVF clinic next wed, and we seeing urologist in 3 weeks hoping the tamofien will have helped rise DH sperm count so we can freeze some more. i have to admit i did spend some time yet looking into surrogacy, trying to stay positive it will happen but as we all are, worried it won't ever happen....oh also i have a COLD bleugh!

have good weeks and sorry if i forgot anyone xxx

Thanks Seeking.

I m glad the puppy has helped.

It's definitely a bit of a head f*ck Hula!
But puppy has definitely helped lift my mood.
Hope you're scan shows what you need it to tomorrow, fingers crossed for this cycle!

Seeking - sorry you ve got this added worry and how crap the nhs hadn t reported the results initially, altho at least if you ve already had them done you ll hopefully get an answer soon. I hope its just a rare one-off. Yay for the puppy, sounds just what you need right now.

Yeah Dr i am too curious to not have the scan and hopefully there will still be something to see.

Well that will be the next question once we know. DrS says to keep trying for now. But to be honest...if it came back that there's a translocation I want to go straight down the Ivf route. I thought a chromosome issue would ease my mind but it's opened a completely different can of worms. At least i know the treatment works.

And congrats on the puppy!!! Cuddles galore now :)

Seeking that is some very intense news. I thought the NHS covered IVF for people with translocations though? IVF with PGD testing to make sure the embies are translocation free?

Ah I see! Tough one. Maybe give them a call in the morning to ask advice? Or just keep your fingers crossed for tomorrow... I'd probably be so curious I'd have the scan anyway. But I'm too nosy!

Hi ladies!

Glad your scan went well Sunny and that you're still progressing well Rosa!
Sorry so many of you have screwed up cycles because of pred Hope af or a bfp arrives for you all soon.

AFM- had my appointment withDrS on Thursday, kind of been on a downer since then. Karotyping came back that baby did have a chromosome issue, which is what I wanted to hear, but it was an incredibly rare one. So now he's recommending DH have parental karotype tests done as we could be carriers of a translocation.
Thankfully we did have those tests done on NHS back in March (results never came back). So now I'm chasing them. DrS,luckily also knows my NHS consultant so has chased with her too.
Naturally I've googled the life out of it, absolute horror stories out there. And obviously I'm assuming the worst. Just want to know if DH and I are ok.

We have got the puppy though!! He's gorgeous. Such a good boy. We're in love!

The ones i m using jusy have either a circle or a smiley (so just testing LH), so it says expect ovulation in next 24-48 hrs. We have dtd today so think we re covered in that respect i m just hoping i m not gonna pay £200 and not be able know if managed to have more than one egg. Have a had a natural cycle scan before that was 24 hrs after a pos opk and i had already ovulated....altho they could still see it.

Sorry in reference to the trigger, I reckon you could still get the shot if the follicle hasn't released yet. Do you think you'll need it?

Hey Hula- do you mean a flashing smiley or static smiley? It's static you may still have 30+ hrs before the egg is released so the scan may be okay!

Bugger, spoke to soon ! Just got a smiley on a cb opk, was negative this morning so hope my follicles can hang on till my scan 2morrow. Anyone know if i ll still be told to do the trigger shot ?

I m good thanks Snoopy, day 12 tomorrow and have my scan at lunchtime. Last cycle i triggered on day 11 so expecting i ll be told to trigger fairly soon after the scan so in tww in a few days. No positive on an opk yet which is good as was worried i might ovulate b4 the scan and then the scan would be a waste of money.

Dr - i can really relate about the pred dilema. I was wondering about trying it again and maybe taking a half dose as i ve seen some people being given just 10 or 5mg. But it really screwed my cycle and took about 3nns to get back to normal which at my age i can t really afford to do. So difficult to know whats best.