Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

I'm the same... Practicality first. Emotions later. Otherwise I just wouldn't cope.

It is such bullshit. I can't believe first u have to get preg and then not miscarry and then God forbid all the other awful things that happen!
Aw, it's tmrw. I'll be thinking of u lots. I find I go into coping mode and just get on with it. The emotions hit me after. I'm so sorry :( well done for being so brave. Xxx

I feel like a whale too...8 weeks of no exercise and being a little less controlled on the diet front has left me feeling fat and gross. Going to write myself a little get fit, get healthy, get pregnant again plan. D&c tomorrow early morning . I feel ok... Still very numb about it all. I can't believe it happened again. I'm not asking for much... I don't want loads of kids I just want one. Is that too much to ask for??
Hope you get the phone call soon so you can at least relax for a few hours before the worry sets in again.This whole journey is absolute bull shit isn't it?! It shouldn't be this hard.

Oh sunny! Don't worry. Obv that's impossible. Just think postive. Ur on the meds and u had a great scan. Brown is common and ur on asprin.
Lie in the shaded sun, read a magazine and drink lots of water and think postive. Big hug. I think rosa had brown too early on...this journey of TtC and miscarriage is so hard for us isn't it. Ugh. One worry after another.

Seeking no call yet! They said it would be later today so as usual I'm feeling nervous! Although my regurge bloating and generally feeling shit is better! Ithink it was a mixture of nerves and post egg revival. I felt shocking yest! Going to watch what I eat now I'm over the worst or otherwise I'm going to become a whale!

How r u? Did u sleep ok? When is ur d and c again? Re the gender u could tell mr s u don't want to know, that's wot I was going to do but never got results. Only problem if its a girl it could be ur DNa they tested and u can't be 100percent sure. But I agree knowing the gender would break my heart more :( but for some maybe they prefer it I don't know.

Oh Sunny.... I'm so sorry you're on holiday and now you have this worry. I know my journey hasn't ended well but DrS really wasn't too worried about my brown discharge and I genuinely don't think it was an indicator of things to come. Try to take it easy and if you have any further concern try to see a DR over there. I will keep everything crossed that its just a bit of old blood working its way out. I know for us, with our history anything out of the usual is absolutely terrifying!

Trying how are the embies doing?? Hope all are maturing well!!

Yeah I know snoopy. I've been so tired I haven't been able to excercise and I do comfort eat. But I haven't touched alcohol or coffee or coke for 3-6 months and I eat very healthy(minus the odd cake!)

I know snoopy me too. I got preg first month of trying (tWice) now I've ended up needing isci?! Wot the fuck!? I know I've repeated this so many times but I still
Find it shocking. Sorry for the use of the swear word but it was required! It goes to show u don't know wots around the corner and life can change and be so unexpected. Hopefully we will get there and we will forget it all....hope stories keep me going
Night girls x

Oh and trying I'd imagine that all of the meds play havoc with your metabolism so don't worry. I'm starting to develop a little belly from comfort eating and if the newspapers are to be believed I batter shape up fast or I'll probably be sacked

Thank you samway, it's always good to hear success stories, especially twins! And you're right, when we all get there we will eventually forget how much this journey hurts.

seeking when I saw Dr s earlier this month after my third he said to at least wait until Af arrives to give you a little time to recover. DH wanted to get straight back to TTC but he is adamant that wee follow doctors orders to the letter this time so we are waiting. I too really want to be pregnant again but If I'm honest I havent missed all the anxiety that now comes with TTC and bfps. Oh when I think back to when we first tried, first few weeks off of the pill success straight away, it almost makes me cry

Actually I'm not on the bum rogesterone. But I may ask for my
Levels to be monitored if my consultant lets me. But I am
On tds rather than bd so maybe that's enough.

I know don't know the literature around So is mixed. Sunny took 5 months on it and then got preg without trying 2 months down the road! It's so bizzare. But rosa had sucess wuickly after a while of trying so maybe it's right for some
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Samway thanks so much for ur story!!! I'm on Isci and on the same combo as u were! It's exhausting taking all the meds and I feel shit! But it's just given me an extra boost knowing this might work. Congrats on ur two kids how wonderful xxx

Thank you for your happy story Samway! That's amazing!!

My fish was 8.5!! Haven't had it retested so not sure if acu has helped. Not sure I really want to know. I just know I don't want it getting any higher.
I really don't want to wait to try again. I'm one of those who has to just get on with things. I feel like waiting would just be a waste of valuable months but I'll see what he says when I see him.
I also really don't want to know if the baby was a boy or a girl. It would break my heart further thinking of what could have been.

Why does SO seem to take a few cycles to work?? I've mentioned it to dh if we're not lucky by Christmas.

Yep it's super ovulation! Hula is about to start! Yay! Rosa got preg on it so hopefully more good news from it soon.

Im stressing about my weight too. I got my bmi to 24.8 pre ivf, it always hovers around 25. But last 3 weeks I haven't counted calories but I'm eating really healthy (7 of my 5 a day, lots of chicken and organic milk, nuts) (ok I am having one sweet thing a day like icecream or a Choc! But only a small one) but I know I've put on weight coz my trousers were tight tonight....I know I shouldn't worry but I just hope it doesn't add too much to miscariage risk . Also I refuse to weigh myself as I'm scared to see the result and I don't want to stress out and starve muself! My ivf doctor said during ivf it was imp not to be calorie deficient and it could be counter productive.
I think I've become a stress head!

Just peeping in with a happy story - I had very raised NKs, my progesterone was all wrong and a history of autoimmune disease.
I had ICSI at ARGC plus dex, clexane, progesterone suppositories AND bum injections, and aspirin. First cycle my HCG was v v v low but they upped the dex and IIt suddenly rocketed. The result of this has this afternoon drawn on his bedroom wall in laundry marker!
Second cycle they tweaked everything so started the dex sooner, two clexane a day not one big one, more prog, aspirin etc and both embryos implanted this time and I had twins, who have been little pests today too.

It can all seem so overwhelming and unfair but once it's over its like it never happened. Very best wishes and good luck to you all x x x

Oh and he did ring this Friday gone so as you can imagine I was a bit depressed and I just thought 'f* you!'

Sorry trying just saw your post. It more than likely wouldn't come to that anyway. You've got loads of options and like you're doctor said this time you only needed ten

Excuse my ignorance but when I read your posts I always think 'SO' means 'super ovulation'. I know that's probably wrong so what does it stand for?

Well done snoopy. Is ur supervisor still ringing on Friday? U go back when u feel ready!

Thanks hula, that really means a lot. I hope you're doing well on the meds, when do you finish them?

trying I think it's perfectly understandable to be anxious, you'd have to be made of stone not to be.
I still haven't heard anything regarding a referral to a recurrent miscarriage clinic so I will have to chase that up.

seeking sometimes something lighthearted is good. We went to see 'london road'. It was good but pretty depressing.

I feel more nervous about getting a puppy than having a baby haha

I think I'm going to write a plan to start getting my life back on track.

You'll all be very proud of me that I've resisted the pressure to go back to work tomorrow because I don't feel ready. I'm speaking to an OH nurse on Monday.

im excited for ur SO. Have u given ursrlf a number of months u will do. I hope ur lucky quickly! I think 4/5 is usual...

Seeking it is more Money but at least u know that it won't go wrong and it will give u very vital info. I remember worrying about getting the results incase it was a boy or a girl :(

Yeah they said they needed 4 good ones today to transfer on Tuesday. Hence they booked me in today incase they were a bit pants or 3 died. we have 5 out of 6 which are looking good, although not perfect I'm proud of them! She said they wouldn't wait for a day 5 if they had a worry we wouldn't have one. So I should chill out! I'm dreading tmre phone call my heart was ppounding. If this doesn't work im going to be highly stressed :( I hope we have something to freeze incase my DH sperm dissapears! Snoopy u asked about donor-it's not something we would do....

Ahh Trying, i m sure they ll be fine and growing well. If they d had any doubt they d have done the transfer today. My friend had 3 of 5 fertilise and they let them go to day 5 and your chances are much better with blasts so try not to worry (i m sure i m be worrying just the same !).

My last fsh was 10 ! Mr s wasn t bothered but i don t want it any higher....

Will be starting SO next cycle and i m 7 dpo now so should be in just over a week !

I'm feeling weirdly protective over them. Also prob a bit silly! I want them inside me so I can look after them!

Hey guys. My parents took us for dinner to distract us and it's was great and I manged to forget for a few mins but then I started panicking about the embies and stressing that tmrw when they ring they tell me the quality has massively dropped and there's nothin left to transfer! (Am I being silly!??)

Seeking what was ur fsh? Mine was 6.5 but acupuncture helped bring it to 5... it stayed at that now I also find that my periods settle well with Acu so I hope urs do too...Mr Shehata doesn't like u getting preg st away incase u were wondering when to TTC, I find a few months break is good for my mind but everyone is diff.

Hula when does SO start? I'm really excited for u! I hope it happens!

Snoopy hope you ve got thru today ok. Its so hard. Thinking of ur little angels. x

That s a good book and has lots of sensible diet and supplement suggestions.

Good idea re your acupunc, its a pain when your cycles dont settle down, fingers crossed she can work some magic.