Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

Oh Drttc, I'm sorry you're having such a crap time and you're in pain! This is all sooo unfair!

What a shame that 2 didn't make it Trying but you've got 3 in the freezer and giving it a good go and getting as much sperm frozen too! I have no doubt that you'll get there Hun.

Work was ok, thankfully it's an early finish as the salon I work in is on Ascot high street and as the racing is on its absolute bedlam so we finish at 4.
Won a cheeky little bet as well! So could have been worse.

Hula you're little boy sounds brilliant just the way little boys should be! Hopefully you'll have a brother or sister on board for him soon enough.

hula you're eggs are not too old! You're body is just waiting to catch the perfect one.
I'm a bit like your DS, I'm always looking at bumps and women with newborns. I stare at them and try to work out what made them successful. Crazy I know.

drttc that sounds awful, I'm so sorry. I just hope this is all over for you soon and you can start to recuperate. How are the blood tests looking x

Hope everyone else is as well as they can be. seeking make sure you're looking after yourself, trying have they found out what's causing your DHs levels to drop so quickly?

Well I finally spoke to occupational health and they have decided .... Drumroll .... That I am 'unfit for operational duty' for at least the next five months. I know that is what I wanted and I know it's not forever but it's a bit of a blow to hear that after six years. I think as well that because it's such a macho environment I've heard people say such horrible things about officers in this position and I don't want them to say it about me. They still haven't found anywhere to put me though, bloody budget cuts!

Drtcc how were ur bloods?
Seeking u survie ur first day back?
Sunny hope ur feeling calmer!

Other 2 embies didn't make it! So I have the one on board and 3 in the freezer. Good news is preg rates are same with frozen ones and also 95 percent survie the thaw. So hopefully I have another 3 chances left. Also booked 2 freezing sperm appts for dh ! And hopefully that will give us enough for another 2 cycles I hope.

Hula sorry I missed ur post last night! Ur little one sounds like a little inquisitive one how sweet. That is really hillarious he said that! How embarrassing! Haha. I hope so much one day he gets to ask about ur bump. But for now u sound like a lovely mummy and I'm sure he has a wonderful well rounded life. X

Oh gosh drtcc. What an ordeal. Sounds awful. Glad DH there. Our men are great aren't they-I wouldn't cope without mine..sorry ur in pain. :(

Why is Ttc so hard for some and so easy for others? Doesn't make sense!

Seeking how is work?

No symtpoms! Still not sleeping well with anxiety! So am v tired. Back to work tmrw. I'm just trying to stay postive but not sure what to feel! Its a surreal feeling.

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Hi all!

Thanks so much for thinking of me.

Seeking, you're so sweet. I think I understand why you wouldn't want to be left alone with your thoughts, but can't imagine the strength it would take for you to face the world right now. It's a very strange place to be in... Not wanting to dwell or be miserable, but having a every right to. How are you physically?

Glad you're okay Sunny! Sounds like things are back on track.

Hula, I know what you mean about wanting a plan in place. I'm exactly the same way!

How are you feeling Snoopy?

And Trying? Any symptoms?

We'll I've had a bit of an excruciating time! Been 'cramping' (WORST PAINS EVER) and bleeding since last night. Sometimes falling over in pain & nauseousness. Waiting on my blood tests to come in later. As I was in so much pain they had a look and found that I had a (DON'T READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU'RE FAINT HEARTED) chunk of womb lining stuck at the neck of my womb. They pulled it out & apparently that can cause a lot of pain & you can even go in to shock if it doesn't pass naturally. Currently going in and out of feeling terrible, but assuming it's just me miscarrying. Hoping the bloods come back low & then I'll be in the clear! Hubby is taking care of me like a saint so feeling very loved.

I saw that Freelance.... I actually tweeted her. DrS really is a miracle man

Hi all, no time to read but hope you're all way. Just to let you know I came across this. Grazia journalist treated by Mr S:

www.graziadaily.co.uk/2015/06/lucie-caves-tells-of-her-pregnancy-journey

Morning seeking. I hope ur friend is helpful it's hard for them to know wot to say. I've often been annoyed or upset but I suppose they are just trying to help in a shitty situation.

I'm the same re plan. I always need a back up! Hence mad calling today to get loads of frozen soerm for dh. Then I ahve 3 embies and some spe for another cycle or 2.

Drttc let us know how ur bloods r, hope they are falling quickly xx

Good luck today Drttc, hope the bloods show that things are heading in the right direction for you and you won't need surgery. Thinking of you lovely.

I think I'd rather be at work than at home. Too much time to think at home. None of the girls have said anything so far which is great. Seeing a friend tonight, who I know is only caring but I don't like being babied and she's one of those who goes a bit ott. She'll prob make me cry!

DH have decided that if we have no luck my Christmas we'll give SO a go. I'm hoping that it won't be needed but just want a plan in place.

Trying - just try and banish those lurking doubts otherwise its so easy to become overwhelmed, there s no reason why you haven got good eggs and they have chosen the best sperm and then the best embie so hopefully chromosal issues should be unlikely and you re on immune tx before conception so the best chance of that stopping a mc. I m feeling very hopeful for you.

Yes my DS is nearly 4. He s fascinated by baby bumps (unlike me who tries to ignore them) but mortified me the other day when he asked a lady in the park whose bump wasn t a baby if she had a baby in her tummy...i didn t know what to say !

Seeking - hope you re ok at work but i know what you mean about keeping busy. SO is not that expensive. About 250 for scan and femara was about 12, not sure how much the ovitrelle shot is as haven t got it from the chemist yet. Obv way more if you did IUI but we ll just bd when instructed ! Just want to get on and give it a try to now so ill know whether i respond or not.

Well done for trying work but if u don't feel up for it just come home. I went in too quickly after my thurs and it affected it a lot. I thought I was thougher than I was!
Sleep well girls! Been a crazy week for a lot of us x

Don't worry Trying...it's hard keeping up sometimes.. And there's only a few of us!
Thank god you got it all checked out now rather than waiting... You're right we are due some good news!

I'm ok, back to work tomorrow. I need normality. Sitting at home moping isn't going to help me. I need to stay busy.

Hula - I hope SO works quickly for you and you don't have too many months of it. How much is it?

I know hula. I think when we first tried it took us a month to get preg as I was fertile and he had nornal sperm. It has really puzzled us how we had such quick pregnancies before. Over the last 2 years his sperm has prob gone from totally normal to hardly anything. Infact 2 months ago it was 5 million and now it's like 50 lying around! I can only presume that when we started it was normal.

Am intent on being hopefull that this or one of our frozen ones work. But obviously the worry of a chromosomal issue or miscarrying a few more times and then DH sperm not defrosting is lurking in my mind!

Aw bless ur son. He sounds so cute. How old is he again? 4 i think? U will be doing everything u can and I really hope this works for u.

Time for some good news!

Gosh Trying that s scary how fast it came on with your dh, i guess at least if you can get a good amount of sperm frozen now then you ve got a reasonable back up plan.

I m feeling ok, think its prob a bit of PMS and i hate those 4 days waiting for af when you know you re out, wish i didn t have to test early. Just wonder if i m going to have taken all these drugs for nothing. Also hesistant to put too much on the SO working since my body likes to do the opposite to what it s supposed. But i guess if its meant to be then it will be .......and i ve got to give it my best shot for DS, he s always seeking out other kids company and is so sweet with little ones. I ll be fine once i m on next cycle and i booked my SO scan today so its all set up.

When do you test ?

Seeking and Drttc hope you re both doing ok and Dr keeping fingers crossed you bloods are going in the right direction tomorrow.

Seeking how r u doing? Sorry I thought ur message was from drtcc.

Haha yes true rosa! Imagine 4 kids I can only dream!
No it's not reversible it's just one of those things. Like women who get premature ovarian failure. I'm just so glad it discovered now and not when he had zero sperm so we have had some embies made and also some soerm to freeze. Some men just have none. Must think of the postive

Thanks girls I know this way beyond the realm of TTC on pred!!! Really appreciate ur support x

Dh is ok actually. He just wants a kid and then we can have a contraception free life!

Drtcc how r u?
Hula how r u feeling after ur bfn now? Hope ur feeling postuve for SO

Stick with the positivity if you can Trying .. You really have had do much to deal with BUT you're young and COULD still have 4- maybe more - kids :) x

Trying - sorry you ve had more bad news. It s just so unfair. But thank goodness you did the ivf when you did and with a blast on board and three more in the frezzer you ve got to have a good chance. Do they know why it s happened ? Is it irreversible ? This must be very hard for you both but good you are staying positive, sending the stickiest vibes for that little embie of yours.

That's the spirit Trying!you have every chance of this being your happy ending! Don't think of being anything other than that right now! You need to put all your energy into staying relaxed and postive.
I know it's a massive shock but as you say, you have 3 frozen envies waiting to go if this cycle doesn't work out (but it will!) hugs to you and DH. How is he with the news? X

Right I've pulled myself together! This is going to work out somehow. I'll just have to make it!

Thanks rosa. It basically means we can't ever get preg again naturally.

His blood tests show testiular failure which explains why no pregnancy for a year and why his count is non existent. They only found enough sperm in his sample for my eggs (should be millions) And same again today when he gave a sample to freeze.
We have to freeze as much sperm as we can incase this cycle doesn't work. But even then the frozen sperm ones can get damage in a defrost.
Either way it's devastating news. I just feel like I have so much riding on this working now.

Forget the miscarriages, with no sperm no bfp. I'm so glad I have 3 embies in freezer I just have to pray one of these works out.

Like I needed another ferility issue to deal with.

I know I should be happy I have a great blasto on board but I feel like another complication after another as if the world is saying just give it up now. "U have no chance. U miscarry and ur dH has stopped making sperm"

Sorry for being a downer
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