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Husband doesnt want children... what do i do?

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BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 09:48

Hi All,

I'm a newbie to mumsnet, but didn't know where else to turn. My husband and I have been together for 5 years, married for 2. We are both 25 and bought our first home last summer. I am now ready to start a family and thought he would be too, but after a long (and tearful) discussion over the weekend, he told me that he never wants children. He said that he only ever agreed with me before to entertain me, but truthfully it's not something he ever wanted. I'm not the mumsy type and have never really talked about having kids, so maybe he thought I didn't want them too?

We have the perfect marriage and he couldn't be a better husband, and this is not something I would divorce him over. I just fear that if we do have a baby, he will resent me... or if we don't I will resent him.
I've read a lot of these blogs about this subject, and the majority of people are saying to wait and not pressure him... which is what I am doing. Bu I fear that by doing this, he will forget all about it and we will never have a baby.

I need any advice you can give me, because although I'm not your typical maternal girl, I have this feeling that I have to have a baby and I cant imagine never having one. trying to explain to him what this feeling is like is so hard, but I love him so much and want nothing more then to have a family with him.

please help :'(

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lunar1 · 13/04/2015 11:56

He can change his mind any time. You could spend your fertile years trying to change his mind. And that feeling you have will only get stronger with time.

It is a very real possibility that he could change his mind when your fertile years are gone.

He could just leave and find someone else to give him a child. It can and does happen.

BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:56

hedgehogsdontbite

This is what I think will happen to him. As soon as we were to have one, I know he would be amazing, and I don't want to waste my youth (and fertility) for him to turn around in 10 years and say he wants to start trying.

Again - this is why I started the chat, because I no a lot of guys do change their minds as they get older

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AllHopeGone · 13/04/2015 11:56

Don't compromise. As an early thirties woman struggling with infertility, my advice to you would be to leave. The urge only gets stronger, you will think you can suppress it but you can't. It will lead to a miserable existence. He doesn't want children, you do. It will end in tears.

BaronessEllaSaturday · 13/04/2015 11:55

Some men do change their minds but some don't. Some say they want children then can't face up to the reality and leave. We can't tell you what is going on in your husbands mind only he can but if you decide to stay and wait it out it has to be on the understanding that you may never have children, he may never be ready.

myexcitinglife · 13/04/2015 11:52

I think you're making it more complicated than it is. It seems that you never discussed the topic - and you married him anyway (I know a couple who did that and now they have one child, husband refuses to have a second, wife is bitter because she wants more. But since they never discussed the topic, it's no one's fault).

From what I understand, he said that if you want to have children, he will. So, you have 2 options: find another man or have children with him anyway (since he's agreed, you're not deceiving anyone). It may work out well, it may not. But you can't force him to desperately want to have children.

BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:52

SurlyCue

Thank you for your honesty. I will sit down with him again soon - maybe in a month or so. I don't want to pressure him, and although it might seem like im making excuses for him, maybe I have been pressuring him.

I've seen other forums where women have said something similar about their husbands, and that in time, they do change their minds.

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SurlyCue · 13/04/2015 11:50

Do you think he could be scared of failure?

No-one here can tell you what he is thinking. You have to ask him.

hedgehogsdontbite · 13/04/2015 11:47

There is a chance that he might change his mind as he gets older but I don't think it's wise to gamble on that. As others say, it'll lead to so much resentment.

My DH was adamant that he didn't want children when we met and married. I did want a child with him but was genuinely happy to be with him without a child. We were 35 when out of the blue he said he might have changed his mind. Cue 5 years of desperately TTC. When I passed 40 I knew we'd missed the bus. 2 years later DS was born.

DH was completely floored by the feelings he had for his son. He's said that he wished he could have imagine what being a dad would feel like when he was 25, because he would have had lots of children if he'd known. But he couldn't imagine it. All he could see was dirty nappies, sleepless nights, curtailed freedoms etc.

BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:47

Seriouslyffs

Yes we have a niece that is 8months and he adores her. Do you think he could be scared of failure?

I am never going to divorce him over this, I love him to much and will respect his views if this is his final decision.

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SurlyCue · 13/04/2015 11:46

I think he's just scared of failing as a parent
I fear that the reason he's reluctant to have our own children is because he's scared of failure.

You really need to stop guessing what is going on in his head and actually talk to him, but more importantly you need to LISTEN very carefully to what he is telling you. He told you before marriage "no way" and you chose to believe it was a joke, he is now telling you he never wants children and cant see himself as a father, yet again, you are choosing to believe he means something different. You are setting yourself up for massive heartache if you keep convincing yourself he doesnt really mean it.

Sit down and have a totally honest conversation. Get a definitive answer from him and LISTEN to it. Dont try and pretend he is saying something different that better suits your plans.

Ewuakua · 13/04/2015 11:45

I want to disagree all the calls for divorce. My DP wasn't very keen on the idea of kids, he said maybe could do it when he's 40. Now he's 30 he's quite liking the idea and we're now trying. What helped is actually seeing friends having children and not losing their social life. Can you get him speak to friends who are parents but haven't lost their sense of fun. Get you husband to see that you will be the same couple with or without children. Keep having the conversation with him ane make sure youre both honest! 25 is still young so see what happens but maybe set yourself a deadline for plan b.

BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:42

SurlyCue

I think he's just scared of failing as a parent. I just thought that if I could gently encourage him, he might come round to the idea. He is very loving and would be an amazing dad. We have an 8month old niece who he adores, but I fear that the reason he's reluctant to have our own children is because he's scared of failure.

Thoughts?

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BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:42

SurlyCue

I think he's just scared of failing as a parent. I just thought that if I could gently encourage him, he might come round to the idea. He is very loving and would be an amazing dad. We have an 8month old niece who he adores, but I fear that the reason he's reluctant to have our own children is because he's scared of failure.

Thoughts?

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SurlyCue · 13/04/2015 11:40

I really just wanted advise on how to help encourage him that having kids is the natural thing

I know you did, but for the third time- you cant! It isnt the natural thing. It is a lifestyle choice and no-one is wrong for choosing not to have kids. You would be very wrong to either guilt trip him or use peer pressure to make someone agree to creating a child with you.

Seriouslyffs · 13/04/2015 11:40

I'm the lone voice here I think not advising leave him right now.
Do any of your friends have children yet? If he's not known friends have children yet that's another reason to give him a little longer.

base9 · 13/04/2015 11:40

what man doesn't love their children once they have them?

Oh, OP, it is a rather depressing fact of life that some men do walk away from their children and refuse to see them, try to pressure the mother into an abortion, never pay child support, say they were duped into fatherhood... the list goes on.

And he has told you he does not want children. He is not being horrible to think that way, plenty of people do not want children. We are all wary that he misled you, but you are young and perhaps did not discuss this clearly together. But his wish not to be a parent is every bit as valid as your desire for children. The problem for the two of you is the impossibility of compromise. You either have children or you do not.

BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:38

Seriouslyffs

Sorry if this is confusing lol! new to the whole forum thingy!

Previously whenever having kids has come up, I've always said 'one day' and he would say yes one day, or 'no way' in a joking fashion as most young guys do when talking about children. We have never sat down and had a serious discussion before, so although he has said before 'one day', i've taken that seriously and thought that he would one day come around to the idea.
But during our chat at the weekend, he said that he wanted to be honest, and that he's never really wants to have children, and has never pictured himself as a dad. He said that if I wanted them, then he would have them with me because it's not worth losing me over. But I want him to want to be a dad.

It's hard to explain, because he's not really lied to me, he has said before in a joking way that 'no way' does he want kids, but as it was in a joking way I assumed he was joking because, lets face it, most young guys do say that they don't want kids - but when they get older they change their minds

does that make sense?

I really just wanted advise on how to help encourage him that having kids is the natural thing

thank you

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SurlyCue · 13/04/2015 11:35

Do you know a way I can encourage him that this is the natural thing to do as a couple

No. Because it isnt. It might feel like the natural thing to do for you but it isnt natural for everyone and you dont get to decide that someone else becomes a parent.

I have a feeling, however, that you have set your sights and wont be persuaded otherwise.

TheCraicDealer · 13/04/2015 11:33

Do not stick around thinking, "oh he might change his mind". If he thought there was a possibility that he might change his views he would say, " not now", when he's actually saying, "not ever". He's telling you how he feels, although it's a bit fucking late now.

If you want kids get out now. I know you must have been feeling that you were "sorted"- married, bought your first house, decent jobs, planning a family- but it's time to face up to the fact that he doesn't share that plan. Your mate is talking shit to be frank; all that would do is breed resentment and introduce a child into the world against the will of one of the parents. He might love the kid but always resent it.

SurlyCue · 13/04/2015 11:31

what man doesn't love their children once they have them?

Are you joking? Take a look at the lone parent board or the relationship board and see how many men walk away from their children without a backwards glance.

Do any of you have any advice on how to gently encourage him that this is the right thing?

You cant gently encourage him that its the right thing, because for him it isnt. He doesnt want children. He doesnt want to be a parent. That is a valid decision, you cannot impose your wishes on him. Not on something as important as creating a child. What you need to do is sit down and have a full and frank discussion with him about whether he is certain he doesnt want children and decide whether you can live with that or not.

Seriouslyffs · 13/04/2015 11:30

Yes it might be because he's young.
But you can't count on that.
I'm a bit confused. Has he actually said, no kids no way. Or 'oh do you really want children, well if it's want you want...'
You know him, we don't.

base9 · 13/04/2015 11:28

By the way, you said you are new to this forum, and I have noticed over the years that this is one of the very few issues that produces overwhelming agreement on here. It is simply not possible to compromise on children, and you should not bother trying.

This issue comes up regularly, although important details change (the age of the woman, length of relationship, whether the dp has lied or not about wanting children, or OP has changed her mind, etc). Have a search for other threads if that might help. It never ends well, although sometimes women do resign themselves to never having children, and they never do, and the marriage survives her disappointment and grief.

The worst outcomes seem to be this: couple stays married, she reaches late 30s/early 40s/later, then they split and he goes on to have children with a subsequent partner. And she cannot.

BellaW123 · 13/04/2015 11:22

SurlyCue

It's not that he lied to get me to marry him or anything like that, we've just never really had the discussion before. Probably because i'm not a maternal person or have ever been 'all about babies' - but now I am, i'm worried he will feel like I have lied to him as I have never expressed these feelings before.

Do you know a way I can encourage him that this is the natural thing to do as a couple? as he's only 25 too, do you think this could come with age?

Thank you

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ThinkIveBeenHacked · 13/04/2015 11:20

OP he really hasnt put you first. He didnt want to tell you the truth so he lied to you rather than have an honest discussion and risk the relationship.

SurlyCue · 13/04/2015 11:18

Give him two years, max. If he's still adamant it's never, leave him

Be cautious if you do decide to give him a time scale. A man who would lie to get you to marry him would be more likely to lie to get you to stay with him. He could tell you what you want to hear, offer you a time by which he will have a child with you then fob you off with some excuse or other (work is busy, he wants to travel, not earning enough blah blah) until it is too late for you to have children.