Immune/natural killer cell treatment when TTC or pregnant (aka the 14th pred thread)

I'm so Sorry to hear that determined. Did u get a bfp? Has it gone or is af here?
I think SO can increase chance
Of chemicals (not sure sure of this) and hopefully the good egg and sperm Combo is soon? Hope ur ok xx

thanks trying
yes determined I hope so. I may be back here ttc some time this year. so would be nice if the nkc have calmed a little at least.
I'm sorry to read that some of you are struggling so much. your time will come.

Dildoos I found acupuncture really good as a holistic thing - sometimes after we'd been talking I forgot she was still needing to stick needles in me! Usually we are dealing just with either physical or mental stuff, it was nice to have both looked at.

Cartoon, nice to see you - I have so many colds, noticeably more than before had pred baby- I wonder have our levels somehow "righted" themselves, with unfortunate physical results!

Sorry for typos! Damn phone!!

Dildoos so sorry you are feeling down. Both times I have been seriously depressed on treatment I have been pregnant a few days later so maybe it's your hormones surging?? I think it's the combination of pred, poor sleep and anticipation/anxiety. I was googling steroids and depression only this morning. We are all allowed to feel crap so try and go easy on yourself...it's such hard work - daily!!

Trying-I know what you mean about photos...I try not to fit me it's more like thinks today when Sil updates on 12 week scan, due dates and how good it was and to think I would be 10-11 now that's what I find hard :(

Hula how much/often do you take spirulina? I juice most days and often take it but not sure if I should have it more? Also do you know what your acu does for immune? Mine said there wasn't much you could do. Just more focus on relaxation.

Dildoos acu is good for mentalling too. After my last session I was in a complete down brain fog and came home after and had some much energy and was proactive instead of being miserable!

Cartoon I have no idea but I would think that's a good thing (lower NK cells) I haven't had a cold for years and no success yet! Obvs not a doc but it makes sense to me ;)

So it seems I am having a chemical pregnancy this month. I didn't say anything as was completely in denial!! I literally didn't believe it (see I am mental). We were having a month off after the last one but after the NHS appointment were we were told nothing we were doing made a difference we didn't really care about what we were doing! Feel stupid and broken now. Each preg has ended quicker and quicker so worried my immune system is getting more aggressive!! :(

The fertility one will be good at helping you with your emotions as they have heard it all before and part of their job is to chat to you for a bit before the needles go in! Maybe give the fertility
One a go and see how u feel

Cartoon-nk cells are sup To fight infection! But they are not the only thing that fight if. But u have a little one so prob rundown and therefore all the colds! Congrats by the way

I have read on the website of the acupuncturist I found that it helps for mental health too, would that be a seperate thing or are all issues dealt with as a whole? X

Hi ladies sorry to drop in with such a random question
, especially as i haven't read back . Not sure if many of you recognise me, my pred baby will be one on Wednesday.
since having ds i have had a cold every 2\3 months much more than i would usually have in a year. should my nkc be fighting that off? not really sure how it all works with illness! wondering if mine aren't so active any more....
hope that all makes sense just wondered what your thoughts on it were

Sunny have ur DH had his sperm
Test yet?

I keep getting in a right tizz re how long it's taking to get preg. I can't get my head around there not being a reason. I ovulate as per my
Day 21 levels my fsh is fine and I DTD at the right times. I'm having acu along with supplements and reduced work hours so less stress. And I'm 30 which is hardly old!
I'm worried I've either got
Scarring post ercp or developed unexplained infertility and will need ivf ontop of my Miscarriage problems, Which doesn't bode well. My mind does wander......should try just take one day at a time rather than planning tests and ivf. Maybe I sound like a nutter 5 months not thatttttt long??

No nephew not near by. Ive just rem after my miscarriage me and DH got at least 3 Photos a day for a month or so. I eventually had to tell
Her please stop it's hard for Me! Thoughtless sil.. Anyways must not
Dwell on past! Another thing my acupunturist says to Me!

I go twice a month and it s targeted at specific times in my cycle that she feels need working on. I definetly think it helps. When my periods first came back after my son (at 23 months - breastfeeding was a very effective contraceptive for me!) my luteal phase was 9 days, after 3mns of acu (and still breastfeeding once a day) i was up to 12days and concieved (but miscarried), its now 14days. She is doing specific things now for my immune issue diagnosis too. It definetly can t hurt and is also good for making yourself lie down and relax for half an hour.

Sorry for BFN dildoos. It's worrying and upsetting isn't it. Firstly your not out yet, not until af arrives. Secondly you know u can get preg and it will happen soon. It's normal to feel sad for a few days. Again I get it around testing time. But you just have to keep the faith! We all Do!

I find looking on mumsnet is depressing and worrying but I still
Do it. Step away from all forums except this one!!!

I have acu fortnightly. But this is the longest time it's taken to get preg so it hasn't helped! But I do feel calm and postive and she helps me believe it will happen. My periods are also bang on 28 days now usually 26-29 after other miscarriages.

Hope ur ok, we all in it
Together and will get out of it other side one way or another. Medicine is so Advanced Now anything is possible. Our jounrey may be longer than we want, not the way we want but it will happen for us. Luckily the only sliver lining is recurrent miscarriers to have a good prognosis. Hugs

Thank you hula, I will try again SMEP this coming month, I have yet to try acupuncture but have just googled a lady in my area which helps with fertility so will call her tomorrow and get a session booked. How often do you go?

Thanks sunny, so today can be my last one and tomorrow is a new positive day!

Seriously cannot believe I feel this as it seems worse and really hoping is due to the pred and I am not going to feel like this forever, not usually a depressive type. I don't suppose anyone has felt that depressed on them and there is an alternative medication? X

Oh dildoos, sorry you feel this way. Last thing you needed was a bfn. The early testing is a definte negative to the pred programme, you need to do it to know if you need to stop the pred but its a real bummer to get a bfn and know you re prob out and then still have to wait 3-4 days for af.

I find my mood generally is worst in the few days b4 af so maybe it s some pms plus general after xmas anticlimax ?

Is there something new you can try for next month (eg a supplement, or new bd plan ?) as i find that helps to feel you re doing something different that might swing things in your favour. i m not sure of your full situation or what you are already on but i take q10 for egg quality as well as all dr s suggested vits and since my cytokines were borderline i ve added spirulina as there was a study this reduced cytokines. I m also doing acupuncture.

Both times i ve got pregnant before was when i d felt like i d hit rock bottom the month before and almost given up hope it would happen so maybe next month will be your one (or even better this month - you re not definetly out till af shows).

Hang in there, you ve done it before with your daughter so it s got to be possible again.

Trying- is your nephew local to you? Yes it's awful that we remember happy times with sad times

My DP dealt with me quite well yesterday bless him. I feel really really down in the dumps today and don't know what to do to make myself feel better? POAS and BFN so t hat doesn't help, trailing through mumsnet looking at other peoples BFP's are not helping either even though they deserve it as much as us on our thread am sure but feel cross about it!

Hoping that I will get a BFP not AF, but deep down you know that a first response would've shown BFP by now.

Poo poo poo

Sorry for the down message!

Please someone tell me some positive way to crack forward with next month x

Aw that's sad :(. My nephew age always reminds me miscarriage 2 as happened same day. My sil may be insane but he's so cute. Shame I don't get to see him much.

I just get a little less sleep twds end of my pred weeks. My mood stays same! But it can cause mood changes! Hope ur partner coping with u! Haha.

Not photos butt it's how I remember daughters milestones sometimes .
Ok have to be honest ladies past 2 days I have been horrid! Grumpy! Horrid I am never like this but feel irrational! What's happened to me? Is it the drugs? X

Does anyone else find looking at photos u can't help but think,
That's when we were first ttc
That's when I was preg no 1
That's just after miscarriage 1
That's when I was preg 2
Etc etc
All my photos over the last 2 years remind me of where in my journey I was.
Pants !

Haha! Thanks dildoos! I did ask him myself but I was quite nervous in the appt for some reason and forgot what he said! I'm not sure if its the same or different subset of NK cells. Gosh this is a long journey we r
On!

Determined I totally agree. We have been through so much and it should be our turns soon?!

Yes we very spread out indeed! Lets hope mr s magic works for us all!

Thank you determind That's easy enough.

Trying I am interested but last time went with no questions and he filed my slot with holiday chat it was a tad expensive chat lol, lovely guy. So truly any questions anyone has that I hadn't mentioned please add on at least feel like get monies worth xx

Sunny that's so hard...I find it such a bitter sweet feeling as you are genuinely happy but also want it to be you after all the losses...I always feel it should be my turn now, gone through enough...I hope you are ok today?

Dildoos - my appointment was relatively quick...He asked how i was feeling on the meds, checked nothing odd happening but then not long after all of that i started super ov as my ov was really late. Anyway, I always try and chuck as many questions at him to understand more about what is going on and go in with a list even if it is a follow up or super ov...(try and get my moneys worth

TWW's good luck hope you are not to anxious and fingers crossed and for those in a new cycle!

I live in Sunny Swindon by the way...it seems like we are all spread out pretty far away from Dr S!!

Bless dildoos! Thanks, only ask if ur interested I would want u to use ur precious minutes on that!