Immune/natural killer cell treatment when TTC or pregnant (aka the 14th pred thread)

Sorry sunny. U have 2 days to test. I hope u see a line I really do!

Well Sounds like a lot of us r struggling right now, but I'm sure in time To Come we will rem these days and we will get there in the end. We must all keep the faith! I find u all a lovely group of supportive women and think u would make the most wonderful mommies! (And mommies to
More than one if u have one already hula and dildoos!)

I find it reassuring that we all have similar thoughts feelings and experiences. I've started wondering that my search for ivf might tempt fate and mean I end up having it?! But that can't be true of us all!

I'm insane!

No deffo not I had a complete break down, tears galore just before i found out i was preg in Nov - i was convinced the meds were working against me. I even started to look at how surrogacy worked!

xxx

Ok so u were looking Up ivf at month 5 too. Not just me that's insane
I'm glad ur contacting serum and doing proactive things. I think having control in whatever way we can makes us feel Better.....

I will see how I get on over the weekend and try and hold my nerve! but i do feel slightly sick (anxious not nausea at all).

Yes the CB digis...I used to use them when I started out and got massive paranoia never going up to 3+ i guess then i knew.

Not at all 1st about 3/4 months then 2 months (then saw Dr s for testing etc). Then i think 5 months then now.

Ahh that's great news Dildoos!! am so glad you found someone in the know and with that track record!

Determind yes I too have some many questions for her regarding her thoughts, but she did say she knew quite abit and researched herself, she also said she has treated people with bleeding in pregnancy and the cases she has done have continued to term

Aw bless u. I can understand those waits for a scan used to make
Me feel sick. It's so awful I don't know how I'll do again! Fills
Me with fear. Do whatever feels comfortable for u and u will know eventually and I hope it's good news. What if u got
One of those clear blue digitalis? So it's Goes 1-2 and then 2-3 weeks. (My preg which was going well till week 9 was a few days late into the 2-3 week one but did get there) .

I know quenby in Coventry uses cyclogest pre bfp....

Do u mind me Asking how long it took u to Get preg each time? (Current obsession)

No no scan yet...I was tempted last night when I had the one sided pain but that has calmed down since this morning. I am going to sound like a big baby now but I am almost too scared to go (pathetic I know).

I am a complex one re: cyclogest...started without when started this all, but luteal phase too short so starting supplementing with it (didn't do much) then did it from ov as was on SO, but this month I wasn't on anything (just aspirin) so started from BFP.

I do panic I left it a bit late but figured I have been on this treatment for around 5 months so hopefully my immune numbers are better than they were!!?!?

Awww hope you are feeling better asap!!

Trying - also to add. I am exactly the same looking into options. It makes me feel better by having control when I have absolutely none...I made enquiries to serum and ZW this week for further tests to be done and that we be my back up! I also started looking into IVF etc just before my 3rd miscarriage because was struggling to get a sniff of a BFP. I think it is always good to have a plan or know what is out there (whether it be tests or comp therapies, supplements, diets, to IVFs).

Hey Hula - don't suppose you have been taking any supplements that may be encouraging it - heard things like evening primrose oil and stuff like that can often increase it???? Do you have anything like Pcos as that can often happen multi times through a cycle?

Have u got a scan determined? No spotting can only be a good thing??
Ps are u taking cyclogest after a bfp? Or before? I really hope it's hanging in there...

Yeah I haven't had a cold in absolutely ages. It's my first in about a year.

Lots been going on...Sorry to hear you got AF dildoos and Rosa and sorry you are poorly trying :( but as Dildoos says it could be a good thing (immunes down). I haven't had a cold for maybe 2 years...I used to get them weekly before!

Dildoos - great about acu. I am keen to know what their thoughts were about NK cells and treatment as I haven't really gone into that much detail with mine! Did they shed any other info? and how acu can help with it?

Rosa - I am very much an option C girl myself (all or nothing). I'd chuck the kitchen sink a it if I could. The accu helps with relaxing as well as things like headaches which I get on SO! My accu lady is preg (41) and due on maternity leave so not sure what I will do after next week!

Also temping remember if you take cyclogest it could raise your temps a bit...I always wait to see a definite rise before I take pred or cyclogest (as the 1st couple of months I massively got it wrong and ended up having the latest ovulation ever!). Am so rubbish at taking it though...always take it at different times so never accurate.

Love the mantra sunny! Good luck for 'T' day - have my fingers crossed for you!

So anxiety has kicked in big time. Had no more spotting (yet) but have been pretty crampy and achy (mild) in my lower back though and still had loads of pains/twinges on the left side. Its horrible. I really wish I knew what was going on.

Did another FRER this morning and the line is deffo there, but not massively darkened (DH and were staring at it for ages like mentallists) and its not as dark as the control either. I shouldn't have consulted DR Google really! (people posting pics or super dark tests at 16/18/20dpo etc)

bye for now,

The stress head! :)

xxx

Ps u said 6 months since ur
Last one in ur post. Sorry missed that x

Thanks hula. I know I sound totally ott. I'm panicking all the time at the
Moment! I think I had a lovely Xmas and new year and stopped worrying about it all, and then suddenly I'm back to real world and first week back at work. And panic sets in! Plus sil preg updates not helpful!
But yes hopefully it's just another few months. When u hear reason from someone else I think "god calm down u silly girl what's wrong with u". Then on my one hour
Long drives into work my mind takes me to awfully scary places!

Ecwm always confused me! I usually get it day 11ish and ends day 15, but it's hard to be sure when DTD begins! I think it's hard to be sure when and where it is so dont worry, go with ur opk too. It takes time for cycles to recover post miscarriage maybe urs r just adjusting-when was urs? Sorry I can't rem...hope ur doing ok on the pred

Hi Ladies, i ve had a busy few days so not been able to get online.

Dildoos - sorry af come but good that you feel ok about and great you ve found a good acupuncturist. Hope u have a good appt with dr s.

Rosa - i d say get cracking with acu if you re going to do it. I ve done alot of acu and usually they say they need 3mns for it to change stuff (and i have personally found that the case too). So if you get started and also want to do SO you ll hopefully be encouraging the best enviro too.

Sunny - everything crossed for testing day.

Determined and hope - hope you re both ok.

Trying - i really would try not to worry too much about nothing having happened for 6 mns. (That s the case for me since last mc and when i mentioned about ivf to dr s he dismissed it and said he def didnt think that would be necessary !) All that said its def good to have a plan and starting with dh sperm makes good sense. The month we went to see an ivf doc to look at starting that was the month i concieved my son so fingers crossed u don t need any of it.

AFM - i had a mini panic when i got some stretchy CM on day 6 (sorry tmi !) as since my mc in april my ov day has moved from day 14-15 or sometimes later to last cycle day 11 so i was thinking it would be even earlier and since i m 39 and my amh is low and my last fsh was 9.0 i started to panic that this is a sign my ovaries are shutting up shop ..., however no positive opk yet and no further stretchy stuff so hoping it was a one off and i ve got a few more days for the egg to mature b4 it pops (i usually get 3-4 days clear stretchy cm b4 pos opk).

Rosa I can't believe we are fertility twins
I vote c! What's a load of cash compared to what ifs?

To be fair would go without many things to scratch together cash
Erm things I mean wine, haircuts, walk instead of drive 50 miles you know the normal!

Good luck for this month x

Sunny u r right. A lot of us in this position? So weird. I cannot understand it. Its not the pred and aspirin as Im not taking them for
Last 3.

I'm Sure I'm out Too. 7 is my lucky number and I ovulate
Next in DH bday - maybe good luck on 2 counts.

I like rosa had 3 preg in a year (and had 3 Months off after no 2) so actually 3 in 9 months Of ttc. Now in month 6 nothing! Ugh.

You're most fertile in the two or three days before your temperature hits its high point. A few experts think you may have an additional 12- to 24-hour window of fertility after you first notice the temperature creep up, but most say that at that point, it's too late to make a baby.

Just copied that! I think that's what u were saying anyway!

A rise in body temperature. Following ovulation, your temperature can increase by 0.4 to 1.0 degrees. You won't feel the shift, but you can detect it by using a basal body temperature (BBT) thermometer. This temperature spike indicates that you've ovulated, because releasing an egg stimulates the production of the hormone progesterone, which raises body temperature.

Ok that's good to know his opinion. I was taking to another forum Member and mr s suggested a HSG to her after 10months ttc (not sure on her age). So maybe 6
Months isn't anything for u to get worried about. If ur not sure about so wait? I think it's a bit of a commitment so u need to be ready too? Maybe sunny can help u on that one!

I actually don't chart temps coz I know I would get Obsessed!!! But I've seen on forums people say u get a drop the day after ovulation to confirm u have. (or is it a rise?) but ifs def something the day after you ovulaye. But please don't quote me on that-but will be easy to find online.

Ive asked my Gp for a day 21 blood before. he was quite happy to give it to me. To be honest if ur having reg cycles u prob are ovulating but I liked to see the number to make self myself feel better.

Thanks Trying. I'm ok but not much better than that. Doing my best as we all are.
Exactly what temp changes indicate ov then? I thought just raising mid cycle?
Mr S wasn't particularly concerned if not conceived yet and think only gave me SO stuff as I was anxious.