Immune/natural killer cell treatment when TTC or pregnant (aka the 14th pred thread)

Thanks Trying I will...I think I just need time. I will bounce back I am sure and back on it in no time (I hope). DH is ever positive (almost too much unless he is in denial I don't know?!)

Yeah that's my worry...all of them are so consistent I.e very early! Either my immune system is super super strong or our genes just don't work together! Only more tests will tell! For now I am forgetting diet and going to have a couple of drinks! I think I deserve it ;)

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Oh determined I was so hoping it would work for u this time. I'm so so sorry. U must be devastated. But there's so many postive stories on here. I'm sure u will be one too one day, u just have to keep going as we all do. It's such a hard road, but stay determined like ur name says. It will come one day.

I truely so sorry, I hope ur DH doing ok too.

Maybe this was a one off chromosomal error?

Lots of hugs cxx

Ahh hope a little boy! That's amazing and also that everything is going well! I am so pleased! Thanks for the note (even though I didn't see it ;)) really means a lot to have the support.

Unfortunately the miscarriage started yesterday. I knew deep down it was coming so glad it started without sounding grim. Just need it over with so I can get some closure but if I am honest I am pretty heart broken right now. I have done everything to the letter and more, my diet was amazing, the treatments, supplements, the medications, lifestyle, less stress and I got no further along than without it all. I have my appointment next Thursday but just don't know what can be done (am on complex programme). I feel at a loss ;(

Trying I haven't done much reading these past few days (bad headaches) but as soon as I have I will be here with some notes ;) promise xxxx

Determined anything come up in ur book???
I'm trying to cut out cake and biscuits and eat a high protein but also balanced diet. It's not really happening :( feeling guilty I can't control my food intake! I'm good for a few days but just had 2 biscuits and a fondat fancy!

Hey girls!
Determined how r u?? I hope u not been peeing on any more sticks while u been away?? Any spotting or cramping? I hope the bean is staying put for u. When is ur appt with mr s?

Hope that's lovely! How exciting! U will be outnumbered! Glad things r going so well for u!

Rosa-how r u finding the acu? I haven't had a session in a while need to get back into the swing

I'm ok, loosing hope I will ever get preg again naturally. Also feeling a bit bored and irritated at the whole ttc. I don't know wot else I can do. I feel like ive given up desperatley trying as im tired of it all. For now I wait for ovulation this weekend and see what happens in a few weeks time. I'm very undecided about the pred-mr s says the nk may be stopping us getting preg, but so many women seem to struggle getting preg on the pred?! (Even u hope, without nk got preg once u were off the pred!) What to do!!!!! Any advice? I might do this month by the book and then if no luck completly stay of it.

Huge congratulations Sue! A lovely little boy. Well done sticking to gas and air too. You are a super woman! I hope I'm as tough as you when the time comes! I had my 12 week scan on Monday and all is looking good. The harmony test results came back good too. I didn't realise but the test was also able to tell us gender. We are also having a little boy! I am going to be thoroughly outnumbered at home but couldn't be happier. Next scan is in two weeks so will find out about the genetic issue for sure then but the person scanning me said that it looked like everything was ok.
Rosa so glad to hear you went to see Fiona! I am excited to see if it does the trick. I really think she helped me to get pregnant. I took the herbs too but stopped 10dpo.
Determined how are feeling? I wrote a post to you a few days ago but it seems to have disappeared! I just wanted to send you a hug and say not to lose hope. I was 100% that I had miscarried but all was well. I hope you have been able to relax on holiday.
Hope everyone else is doing well too. Thinking of you all, xxx

Massive congrats Sue - you did it!! Its so inspiring and helps us to see it really can happen if you want it bad enough. (bringing a little tear to my eye right now). Enjoy every second and huge congrats again!

Hope everyone else on the board is doing well?

Hugs
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Congrats Sue!! Lovely news and I'm only a few months into this treatment so can only imagine how tenacious and strong you must be .. But how very happy you must now be. I bet you can't quite believe it. It does sounds like you can get there if you're tough enough.. I so hope I am.. I fear I'd not last as long as you did - well I suppose that's one good think about being 39 this year.. I don't have that long.
It's just so nice to know that people who so badly want a child to love can get there... Enjoy every second!!

Hope - thinking of you.. Be great to hear from you too. I went to your accu lady last week and again tomorrow so hoping she can work her magic on me..
Hi everyone else. Hope everyone is feeling positive and smiling more than not x

Thanks for your inspiring story Sue and many congrats on your little one. Amazing you managed to stay determined and overcome such adversity and so deserving to finally have your beautiful bubba in your arms. Really helps to know it can happen. I hope you can relax now and enjoy every precious moment !

Thanks for ur story sue. What a wonderful end to what sounds like a though journey and well done for being so brave! I can't imagine going through all that
Enjoy every second with ur miracle
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hi girls hope all well? Hope have u had ur 12 week appt yet? Sunny did u get the sperm results back? U must be getting ready for ur last SO?

Checking in to see if Sue had posted and you have!! I'm so so pleased for you, especially having seen everything you've gone through here. Am sitting here wiping away a tear (stuck to the sofa with my own, and second, Pred baby) for you. Hurrah for hard drugs and medical miracles :)

Sue!!!!!!

Hello ladies just to let you know we had our little boy at 2.07am after a very painful birth with just gas/air and a tens machine. He weighed in at 7lb 2 and we are both fine. I'm lucky I didn't need any stitches so will be going home later today.
Never give up on your dream as I am another success story that it can happen even after 10 miscarriages and a medical termination at 20 weeks over 5 years. I had everyone telling me to give up including my family and DH so listen to your instincts and keep strong even when you feel like giving up! I truly believe you will all get there whichever route you end up taking xxx

Dildoos - i m on day 4 so just waiting to see what happens now. I m like you in that i feel i can give this another six months and then we need to stop. It can get so all consuming and i m so grateful i have my ds that i don t want to spend all his early years taken up by ttc but also not quite ready yet to accept that he ll be an only child, it s just soooo hard.

Trying - yes i am obviously really sensitive to the pred, not sure where that leaves me for using it from ov. I probably should nt be surprised as breastfeeding even just twice daily stopped my periods for nearly two years.

Determinded - have a great hol. You really deserve a break.

Yeah! Shehata will do it for u I'm sure
Have fun! Hope it's somewhere warmer than here!

My thoughts entirely! And if Pgd is the way it's the way (or sadly if there is no way) but at least we know the score rather than going through all the heart ache emotionally and drugs which I hate.

Thank you...can't wait! Just got to get packing now xx

What a stupid thing to say!!!!!!!!!! At least u would know what the problem was would help psychologically , then u would lnow u had a 50/50 chance. and also in USA they do PGD with ivf for it (I hear rates no better than we have) but still ) What idiots
Yes I did mean determined. Shehata will do them if u push but he said he doesn't do it as routine.
Have a lovely holiday (if u can!) u deserve after everything. Try switch off and recharge

Trying am also reading a book on immunity and diet etc so will let you know if I glean anything!! Xx

Do you mean determined? Yes just before xmas and they declined the test, said only solution for it was to get divorced!!

Also I've done a lot of reading about weight and it def plays a role for overweight and obese. I'm straddling a bmi of 25 so my
Diet is in full force and going well. Something for us to control I suppose?

Dildoos have u seen a rmc nhs? They will do ur karotype just ring them. Mine did mine ow its 500 quid!

Hula-that is nuts. 12 days?! I'm sorry that happened,how disheartening u must be v sensitive to the pred. I hope this cycle behaves!

Dildoos-That's wonderful DH rem! Mine is supportive but leaves all that to me. I hope u feel peace with coming To that descion-I'm hopeful u will get preg this year though (we have only just begun the year) . But if not, I'm sure u will make the right choice together that works for u and enjoy Eachother and ur lovely daughter. It's such a consuming journey we r on. It's affects every single part of our lives in ways others can't imagine.

Dildoos-I can tell u r in overdrive. Looking up everything searching for an answer. It's exhausting. I've done that after each miscarriage. I've read like 100000 journals. Your right this whole situation takes over ur life. It's affected my sex life, my relationship with preg women and my SIL, my work massively, my weight (!), my holidays as I refuse to fly if I'm preg so can only go last minute, my bank account!! It's made me and DH stronger which is maybe the only postive. He's seen sides of me I didn't even know I had and he's loved me and held me through them all. I've cried so much this last 2 years I didn't know it was possible to cry so much. And when I'm sad I feel consumed by grief and don't see a way out and tell myself I'll be childless and run away to New Zealand!!

But.......when I'm more rational, I rem this our journey. And yes it's pants but if we want to we can get there in the end. It will be worth it and will hopefully
Make us more wonderful mummies! (Although a little jaded!)

Thanks Rosa, as part of my follow up and going to get some more tests done/redone. Dr S said to get my thyroid checked annually so it would be good to see where we are at and to see if there has been any diff after all these meds, diets and lifestyle changes!!

Hula am so sorry about the crazy cycle am hoping that you just needed a little 'reset' and now you are back on track.

Dildoos good luck for this cycle it's sad to be there but with the whole deadline/decision thing (with whatever in life not just baby's) it does give you that release iykwim. I haven't been on this journey as long but already feel I have 'lost' myself, my confidence, or have much fun...it's just taken over everything even when we say it won't (it has).

We are going to see what Dr S says when I am back from hols and push to be referred for some more tests (for example I have pcos but never had testerone levels checked), karyotype needs to be done (think its odd coincidence all miscarriages end at same time!!) and I have already spoken with serum about infections testing etc. I know I have had relatively few/short journey compared to many women in this immune/miscarriage journey but feel pretty broken right now! (Am sure I'll be fine once this next bit is over)!

Hope you all have nice weekends planned x

Hula hoping you have a normal cycle this month. Where abouts are you at the moment?
I just try avoid sil as much as possible around AF times I usually cope by focussing on the little ones as they are innocent in all that is said .
I am on day 9 today, trying smep again so last night dp remembered it was day at and stimulated dtd without being told and this meant the world so let's see if continues.
I have made the big decision that if it doesn't happen this year we have to stop trying , no more research, no more pill popping , we will move on as feel so much is on hold. Big decision but felt it needed making. That will be almost 5 years TTC and think for me that's long enough mentally.
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