For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

Fab news poco, congratulations

I hope the distraction is going well mama?

Frolic, I don't think I had any ovulation pain but then I don't think I ever have. I can't go by chin spots either because they are a month-long affliction! Although they did clear up a bit after AF and then get worse... now I'm just talking myself into it.

Need to distract myself for another 4 days. Hum.

Poco I thought you were out! Yay!!!

That's fab poco! Congratulations!!

Oh wow poco brilliant news well done!!!! Inspirational!!!!

First month of Soy after being told PCOS and BFP!!!

Thanks frolic! now we have decided to give it a try, I'm anxious to start. After much reading, I've decided to do days 3-7 at 80-80-80-120-120 and see what happens as I can always up the dose next cycle if needed and then go all out on the 3rd (and last for the time being) cycle depending on how 1 and 2 go. I'm not far from 35 myself so I'm having similar concerns. I have a dd who is almost 12 and OH doesn't have any. I'm anxious that we don't miss out on the chance to have at least one together. Thank you for the advice

Thanks for the welcome mama! Good luck and fx for you!

I have everything crossed for you mama. Yay for high temps.
Did you have any ov symptoms? I didn't get much on the first soy cycle but had lots of pain and chin spots the second.

I POAS at 10/11 dpo and got a strong line quickly on a frer. Probably would have shown up a day if not two before. So I reckon you can go at 10 dpo.
I'm still occasionally POAS at 8+1

Thanks frolic! Doing ok. 6dpo and no symptoms so it's all a bit boring. Temps have stayed nice and high though.

Haven't poas since my bfp last time and I'd quite like to this cycle - how early is ok, do you reckon? AF usually turns up 10-11 dpo.

Welcome Quietly! Best of luck using soy.

Awww quietly, you are sweet!
Don't feel bad about wanting to try other things on cycle 6! I tried soy cycle 3 & 4. 4 was lucky! TTC is tough. I am a control freak, so decided basically to approach it like a project and try something new each month. I'm also approaching 35 and was worried we'd left it late etc, etc. there are so many scare stories once you start googling.

EPO is fine with soy as far as I know. I took it because of not getting lots of ewcm. You need to stop taking it at ovulation because it causes uterine cramps, which aren't good in luetal phase. Not sure abou the other stuff, but I'm sure vitamins should be fine.
Try taking the soy in the evening to avoid headaches. Good luck

Hope all is going well for you mama

Hi all! I've been watching this thread for a while and after a really really crappy ttc month (baby bombed by what feels like every friend I have, suspected anov cycle, breakdown on OHs shoulder) I'm on CD 1 and have decided to give si a try this month. Only on cycle 6, so I feel a bit bad that I'm so upset about ttc already when so many others have been trying longer, but we have 3 months left to 'try' before taking almost a year's break in prep for our wedding next year. I temp and use fertility friend to track and its not 100% sure I ovulate at all as my temps are always quite low and very rocky in my luteal phase despite 3+ hours sleep and taking temp at the same time. Plus, since coming off the pill I have realised that my cycles are getting longer each month, only by a day or two, but consistently every month. Started at 26 days and most recent was 35. Went to the docs today to see if this was 'normal' and just got told to 'keep trying'. Si is my next option to try. Quick question... Does anyone know if it's ok to keep taking epo and seven seas trying for a baby while taking soy?

P.s Frolic, you are my inspiration in this area! I was so pleased to see you get your bfp

So sorry to hear that poco. Are you done for good? That must be very hard, please look after yourself.

Thanks for the cheerleading, frolic!

Sad to say soy did not work for us and this was our last month trying. Sad this rTTC journey is over

Hi ladies, wondering if any of you could help me.

I came off the pill in august, had my withdrawal bleed and then since then NOTHING. Doctor has been suitably useless "well it seems like your ovaries have shut down!" - yeah, thanks for that! (I'm 27) I am being sent for blood tests but I'm not overly hopeful.

DH and I have been trying since September but obviously with no luck. I was wondering if Soy might be useful in getting me 'kick-started' Anyone been similar?

Good luck mama, I'm cheering you on.

Thanks for that frolic! I just temped again and am seeing more of a rise now. I suspect we stopped dtd too early this cycle, but life got in the way. We shall see for next cycle!

Hi all, I have bought some si to try next month which will be our 7th cycle with no bfp :( im currently 1dpo for this month but did not ovulate till cd27 this cycle which I think was due to upping dose of epo and b vits. Won't be doing that again! Im normally ovulate on cd20 and have 30-32 day cycles, would like to bring ovulation forward as it's just so long to wait every month!! Im 31 and ttc #1

On signs = ov signs

mama, I had a really funny cycle in November. Was convinced it was going to be anovulatory due to a slow temp rise. It all worked out in the end though!!
Here is a pic of my chart - it never looked like that before, usually I got an immediate rise. Have you had any other on signs? I had shitloads of chin spots, which is a sure one for me.
I have everything crossed for you.

So weird things afoot this cycle, first using soy. I usually have ovulation confirmed by temp rise on day 15, but this month got peak readings on CBFM on day 12. DTD day 12 and 13. I'm now on day 15 and no rise as yet. So no real idea what is going on. FF had tentatively placed ov at day 13 but cancelled that with today's low temp. But I had ewcm around day 12/13 and nothing now, just sticky/watery cm.

Bah. It would be just my luck to get an anovulatory cycle my first month of trying soy.

Thanks MrsB I really hope all the work pays off soon for you. I have read so many things from people with short LP's and never come across someone who has successfully extended theirs by anything more than one or two days until now.
I'm going to add in the B Vits straight away and reconsider the soy. I have read that you shouldn't take both AC and soy, have you ditched the AC?
What progesterone cream do you use?
Sorry for all the questions! I'm just so excited to have found someone with real success with this.

Hi Goodegg. I used to take Angus catus but it didn't work for me.

I take 200mg of SI cds 3-7, all cycle I take 100mg of B6 and B-complex.

I use one pump of progesterone cream in the morning and one pump in the evening once I have confirmed O, so usually starting at 4dpo.

The B6 and B-complex worked amazingly in regards to my LP. I do take the highest dosage and I know most start lower and up the dosage later in the days used.

Fingers crossed you find something to help you. It's taken about 30 cycles to get the vitamins right.

x

Hello again everyone. I'm following all of your soy experiences with interest.
2nd month of Agnus Castus and I was back at 8 day lp so that first month was just a coincidence.
MrsB354 you seem to have had success with lengthening your lp which is amazing. Can you tell me what amounts and days you have been taking the B vitamins, the soy and the progesterone cream? Fingers crossed this does the trick for you! At this point for me it would be an achievement to get a full 2 weeks wait!
Hoping to see some more soy bfp's for you ladies.

Pocopearl - going to try and hold out until the 16th (14dpo), as long as af doesn't show up before then.

Used to spot around 8/9 dpo so have a LP defect, but taking B6 has helped.

What about you?!

I'm taking progesterone cream so if I get a BFN, I can stop the cream to allow af to show.

Half way through this TWW :) we can do this!!!!

I took one day's worth of soy this month, and had a positive opk the following day! The positive only lasted for a few hours then trailed off. I took it on day 4 of my cycle, as I'm quite old I wanted to increase the egg quality. I'm a bit spooked out. I normally ovulate on day 13, reasonably regular cycles so I'm not sure I should use soy. Any thoughts?