For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

Hello all. Can I join too please? I am new to SI, but just thinking about adding it to the huge cocktail of supps I'm already taking in the hope of conceiving DC2. I will have to read back a bit and see what I can learn from you lot. Of course, I'm hopeful AF isn't about to put in another unwelcome visit, but I think all the signs are there...

Will apologise in advance for being a very intermittent poster these days now I have a very active and sleep shy two year old!!

I have read a bit more about taking SIs when you have a regular ovulation and I'm a bit scared that I've screwed everything up for this cycle

Going to start testing with OPKs today. My temperature seems high though - does anyone know whether they raise your BBT?

Blimey, lauraqc, that is one mammoth cycle - and I thought my random 45 day one was bad! Hurray for SIs! I really hope I won't regret taking them. Going to stick to a low dose just in case.

Hi Henry I'm afraid I'm using SI to try and get some regular cycles so can't help with your query about what days to start opk...but what I can say is that after having a mega 212 day cycle my last 2 have been 24 days and 22 days and I've had a solid red crosshair line on FF for the first time yay!

That would be room full of bears, although doomful sounds similarly terrifying...

Room for a little one?!

I have been reading this thread with interest and have just started my first soy cycle. Congrats to everyone with BFPs! And sorry for your CP loopy

Stats: Two DC conceived first and third cycles. MMC in 2013 at 11+4 weeks (also conceived cycle #1). Now been TTC for 12+ months with reluctant DH, lots of stopping and starting, taking breaks, etc - all very, very stressful

I am rising 38 and have fairly regular cycles, LP usually 15/16 days so have decided to take SIs to strengthen my geriatric eggs. Took 100mg on Cd4 and had a very vivid dream about a doomful of bears and a naked vicar with intentions

Now having read how the soy has screwed up some cycles, I am a bit nervous....

Just a quick question: how soon does everyone start weeing on OPKs? I am on CD6 and usually ovulate CD12-17.

Sorry I'm so late on catching up with this thread. It's been a busy few weeks.

Ok, so I actually ov'd late this month Positive OPKs on CD 19 and 20 and ff tentatively put dotted crosshairs (as it always does!! Grrrr!!) at CD22 which is the latest I've ever 'ovulated'. I have no idea at all if this means soy did anything for me. 8DPO right now, and not feeling any different to any other month. I'll post if any news.

Thanks Metal and Quietly I was wondering if I felt the pains more intensely after taking SI...it was my first real time taking them at the right time if you get what I mean! Even if I get af I suppose it's good cos it'll mean a real 'normal' cycle as opposed to the 4ish month gaps I've had in between! Still bit brown sticky tonight with a bit of a pink tinge. Wondering if af will come tomorrow, don't think I'll be able to stop myself testing tomo!!

Laura, I'm due to ovulate any day now and I've been getting a fair bit of cramping and discomfort today which I never usually get during ovulation (though obviously not sure yet that this IS ovulation) but its my first soy cycle so I've no idea about post ov yet.

Jellypi3 I started on the lower dose because I was a bit cautious about what effect it would have on my cycles but so far Im happy to try a higher dose next month. Fingers crossed.

Hey laura, I had really bad ov pains last month after taking soy CD4-8, I usually get some but these were much stronger than usual. So it could be that the soy's causing your spotting, but it could also be implantation. Fx it's the latter!

Hi everyone - checking in and needing to ask a question please - I took SI on days 3-7, I think I ov'd possibly last Saturday (had stabby pains in right ovary and general discomfort in lower tum), and since then I've had a bit of pink spotting on Weds and Thurs this week, along with cramps and then a bit of brown spotting this morning with cramps now. I've got really irregular cycles but seem to have a 10 day LP which means I'd be due around Tues 3rd Feb. In anyone else's experience have you had more spotting or pain compared with cycles where you didn't take SI?

I'm practically beside myself, but haven't tested as I'm thinking it'd be too early yet anyway...

Thanks quietly i will let you know, i'll probably do the same dose you have done :) still got a while before i am due to start, so will update you in a week or two! fingers crossed you ovulate soon!

Hi jellypi!! I got mine from Tesco, but they come in 40mg tabs so you have a choice of starting at 80mg or 120. It's my first month on soy and I started CD 3-7 and did 80, 80, 80, 120, 160. No side effects. I'm still waiting for ovulation though on CD 15 so no idea if they worked or if maybe I didn't take a high enough dose. Next month I'm going to try 120, 120, 120, 160, 200. Let us know how you get on if you decide to try them?

Hi, I'm thinking of starting trying Soy this month. Is Tesco the best place to buy them from? AF is due 7th Feb, so planning on doing day 2-6 (not sure I am ovulating so need all the help I can get!). Is 100mg each day an ok amount to start on?

Took my last dose of soy tonight. Stuck with my plan and did 80, 80, 80, 120, 160. No side effects, but then I guess I did start with a lowish dose. Interested to see what happens next ??

Hi mama. Good luck with the gp. The month we conceived, I took Omega 3, b complex, co enzyme q10, vit c, probiotics and folic acid. I also took epo and guavathingy cough syrup up to ovulation. And soy obviously.
Quite a cocktail! Who knows if any of it worked, but I did like to feel I was trying something.

Sorry the soy hasn't worked for you this month Mamapo. I considered soy earlier on this thread to lengthen my lp but was recommended to try Agnus Castus by someone which I have now been taking for 3 months. The first month my lp was 2 days longer but then since then has gone back to 8 days. I have also added in B complex with 50mg B6 this month following a positive outcome from pp MrsB354. I don't know whether it's done the trick but il report back.
FC for all.

Thanks guys. I'm seeing the GP on Thursday to find out what the next step should be. If I take soy again this cycle I'd need to start on Wednesday and I'm just not sure whether to do it. I guess it's not likely to have significant side-effects but I also wonder whether it's worth having a 'clean slate' when starting to talk to doctors.

Frolic, I'd be interested to know what vitamins you took. I need to replenish my stock of Folic acid and Vit D (that's all I'm on) anyway so I can always take a look.

I'm sorry mama

I don't know much about lp lengthening, but I'm sure I've read about ladies who have had success with b-vitamins. Maybe that would be something to look into if you haven't already. I took a cocktail of vitamins (along with soy to strengthen eggs) the month I got my BFP. I don't know if they made a difference but I'll post a list of you want.

Good luck with whatever you try next. It's a tough business.

Sorry to hear that mamapo. Will you try soy again this cycle? Or anything else instead? Thinking of you and hoping you get your bfp soon.

Soy is a big failure so far. I wanted to extend the length of my 23-24 days cycle, and this month it's 22 days. Not feeling great!

Thanks for warn wishes everyone. The tww ended up being very short - 8 days!

Thanks mamapo! Didn't have any last night, though I did take them not long before bed like frolic suggested, and 80 is quite a low dose too, I think (mine are from Tesco and are 40 each) so hoping that when I up the dose on CD 6 I still don't get any.

How is the distraction going for you? When will you test now? I have everything crossed for you

Thanks frolic - well enough! Went to visit my dear friends and their 3 day old baby yesterday, that was pretty great! Husband and I very envious! They've had a very rough trot (multiple mc, ectopics etc so an IVF baby) and I am wonderfully happy for them.

What dpo did you test, Frolic?

Quietly - everything crossed for you! Others talk about having had side-effects from the soy but I don't think I had any.

CD 3 and just taken 80mg of soy. Fingers crossed this works