For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

Kitty, the opks were definitely negative, not even a faint line. I did have some sharp stabby pains in my right ovary but I can't remember which day!

I'm a bit crap at drunk sex - makes me feel sick!! although I managed plenty of it back in my wild youth

Good luck with the soy. I'm convinced it has done something for me, I'm just not sure what yet!! I took 3000 epo this cycle and definitely noticed more ewcm than previously. Have stopped now due to the possible early ovulation.

spinning- your new temp makes it interesting! Did you definitely get a negative OPK day before yesterday? I think you could have ovulated yesterday with the dip at cd10 being a pre-ov dip (can happen a few days before ovulation) but we won't know until you get two more high temps (then FF will confirm it) Keep taking your temp after regular sleep and keep shagging!

Frolic Xmas is a great time to get pregnant as generally your pissed and have time off work for some morning sex I fell pregnant around New Year last year, obviously hoping for some Xmas magic this year too!

I am cd5 tomorrow so the plan is 80mg till cd9. I generally ovulate cd11/12 and have a fertility monitor that works on temps so I should be able to tell that ive ovulated.

I'm also taking EPO this cycle till OV so I'm hoping in going to see some good EWCM. I used to get four days but now I only tend to get one day on cd8.

Yay for non ttc dtd new! It's nice to occasionally do it for fun, isn't it?

Where are you in your cycle now? Did you take the soy? I've tried to look back on you posts, apologies if I missed something.

I'm not sure if I'll try it again straight away if I don't get a BFP this cycle. I think we'll scrap ttc for December and enjoy mulled wine and my blackberry brandy instead!

Well DP and I just had some quickie non-TTC sex which was fun . It's been a couple of weeks so directly I showed willing he pounced lol.

I had a migraine that day new and it was the worst one I have had in years. I slept lots and took load of meds to try and make it go away, both of which could explain the spike.
Interestingly well for me at least my migraines have always had a hormonal pattern and I seem to get them immediately after AF or around ovulation. I do wander if the soy is at play here.

Nothing to do but wait and see I suppose. I hate not feeling in control!

Yep that temp around day 9 is definitely making the chart look annovulatory. If you took that away then you can see a good temp shift around cd15. The creamy cm is a good sign, sounds like you have ovulated!

Thanks new. I had ewcm around day 15 and now it's creamy. Tbh I don't get that much, so I'm not very good at telling. The ewcm was noticeable.

I don't think there is that much I can do, just keep temping, dtd-ing and hopefully wait to see a pattern. I think that big spike on day 9ish is a curveball as I was very poorly and took lots of drugs! Opk's today were lighter than the past 7 days.

My 2 previous charts are a bit 'spikey' but with a definite shift iykwim.

Frolic I did look at your chart and I couldn't see a clear shift. What is your cervical mucus like? With mine it's clear when I've ovulated as my cm turns white and becomes creamy.

I'm on day 18 of my cycle. Took soy days 5-8. I am 90% sure I ovulated on Monday. Temp and opk's look positive, but the last few cycles I seem to have had a 'double' surge and may have ov'd later than I thought.
I'm still opk-ing and dtd-ing just in case! It is such hard work - I could do with a blue nose right about now!

I'm on CD 6 second say using soy jusrt started temping yesterday to no harm in trying started off on 160 going up to 200 day 5

Ooh yes some clear indicators would be fantastic!! I hate all this guesswork.
All this talk of charting and temperatures is making me think I'm not doing enough, I think I rely too heavily on the cb opks as I don't really get much ewcm or ov pains. Although the EPO did make a difference last cycle with ewcm....
Sorry I can't help you with reading your charts ladies!
new I am also nervous about screwing with my cycle using soy. I should think we will be ok though, I only took 100mg each day, so surely that little won't do any harm? It probably won't do any good either though!! If AF arrives normally then I might increase to 100mg x 3 then 150mg x 2 on days 4 -8.
Do you think it is worth carrying on with soy though if I'm not being so healthy in other areas? I have a few parties coming up this next month and probably won't be holding back on the drinking, and we haven't been eating very healthily, so wondering if there is any point using the soy to try and improve egg quality?
Where is everyone up to then in the soy cycle? I am 7dpo today and considering POAS on saturday.....

New, that's interesting as someone else on the nov thread said the same today after seeing my temp rise again today. Will ff not confirm that with the negative opk entries? I drink lots of water so maybe they didn't work.

Funnily enough spinning from your chart yesterday I was going to say I think you OVed cd 10.

Haha yep, it would be fab and save all this stress!

Haha, yes that would be great! And then your ears would turn green when an egg implants!

My temp is really high today so maybe I have ov'd, wish our nose would turn blue or something when we ov'd, it would make things so much easier

I used to get exasperated with FF recalculating things all the time. If you put in ewcm after OV it gives you dashed crosshairs, if one temp is out it panics.

I used to just set it to manual and set OV day to the day after my pos opk and then it used to just settle down.

Thanks new, that's reassuring. And no, I don't believe I ov'd on Friday, I'll stick with my date of Sunday and ignore FF! I'm just puzzled as to why it's recalculated it.

Oh and ignore FF shifting the goal posts. I use a temp based monitor to ensure ovulation alongside opks and last cycle it told me I ovulated on cd 10 when I didn't get a pos opk till cd11 and ovulated cd12 with a 14 day LP. It fucked up because one temp didn't register. These things are not foolproof.

Metal I'm sure I've read lots of things about temp drops around 4dpo cause by a post OV oestrogen surge. The temp should recover tomorrow.

Morning ladies, I'll join the weird temp club this month! I'm pretty sure I'm 4dpo today and had a massive temp drop below the coverline this morning, that's never happened before. Admittedly I woke about 1.5 hours before I took my temp to use the loo, but I've done that before and it's never had such an effect.

As a result FF has changed my ov date from Sunday to Friday, but I'm pretty certain that can't be true as I only got a +opk on Saturday morning (Friday morning was borderline). Now I'm worrying that the soy is doing weird things to my body...

Good morning! My temp is still high, so ff has decided this morning that I ovulated Monday on day 15. That's a good 4-6 days earlier than usual, do I guess the soy did something.
let the symptom spotting madness commence

Thank you Kitty, you're a star dp works funny shifts so although I aim to take my temp at 6am, it's often different. Today he was up at 4.30 so I took temp and then use an online bbt adjuster to change it when I wake.