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For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

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Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 23/10/2014 21:18

I will be starting soy isoflavones tomorrow, cd 3.

This will be my 11th cycle TTC, with two chemical pregnancies/ early miscarriages @ about 5weeks so far this year already.

I've read up quite a lot on SI, and just at the point now where I'm thinking, what the hell, I'll give it a go!

Anybody else TTC with soy isoflavones?

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Boysclothes · 14/11/2014 09:59

www.fertilityfriend.com/m/home.php/498270

Chart here

Boysclothes · 14/11/2014 09:51

I seem to have a long cycle of around 42-49 days then a short cycle of 31/32 and they alternate. I had ovarian surgery and then this started so I'd assumed that I wasn't ovulating the long month and that was because it was the crap ovary's turn. This is just my theory, consultant said the ovary should work fine. However all bets are off this month as it's my first cycle post ectopic, which took three months but did self resolve without surgery.

NewEraNewMindset · 14/11/2014 09:47

That's really interesting boys, were you regular or irregular before?

Ah Metal I'm so sorry Sad. What dose did you take and when?

Boysclothes · 14/11/2014 09:28

Hi girls, I've been reading with interest. Took SI this cycle from 5-9, 120mg for first two days then 160 I think. They didn't arrive til day 5 hence late taking. So this cycle I seemed to be gearing up to ovulate around day 22' EWCM, pos OPKs etc. Then instead of going up my temps went from being a straight line to very strange and zigzaggy, no rise as such but variable. Kept OPKing and then got more EWCM and have finally oved with good temp rise on CD33! V strong OPKs though, much darker than control line. Poor DH has been worn to a nub.

So it def delayed OV for me but hopefully I got a nice egg out of it. 1dpo now so the wait begins! Will take earlier next cycle.

Pikz · 14/11/2014 09:26

Half way through my soy tww. Yawn.

Metalhead · 14/11/2014 09:18

Looks like no soy magic for me, got a BFN at 12dpo today and have zero symptoms. I only poas because my temp was still high this morning but like you new that's probably because I'm ill. Just hoping AF will hurry up and arrive soon now.

NewEraNewMindset · 14/11/2014 08:41

Weeeeeell, my fertility monitor is predicting ovulation tomorrow, BUT it has a nasty habit of saying shit like that and then once in out of my fertile window telling me I ovulated in entirely a different day. If the sticks are positive this afternoon I will believe it!!

Either way my temps are up but I've also got a raging cold which could be confusing the issue.

This possibly goes to show though that even on a low dose, this stuff is potent!

LoopyLa · 14/11/2014 07:32

3dpo...hate the 2ww Angry

N1kkiL · 14/11/2014 07:11

Upped my dose to 200mg last night & no side effects this morning. Gutted my temp didn't save when I took it earlier but never mind! Last ones tonight & hoping to see that temperature jump week after next ??

iniquity · 13/11/2014 18:52

Hi newera I also have a 25/26 day cycle. It is 25.5 days almost to the hour.
I'm also hoping to delay ovulation for a more mature egg.

NewEraNewMindset · 13/11/2014 18:30

*25/26 days long.

NewEraNewMindset · 13/11/2014 18:29

Loopy my cycle pre-miscarriages used to be 26/26 days long, OV day cd12. Then after my second MC they went to 23/24 days long, OB day cd10/11. I started taking 100mg vit b6 and turned my 13 day LP into a 14 day LP, I was so pleased. Took soy this cycle days 5-9 in an attempt to delay OV to get a better quality egg. This may have worked, or everything might have just gone awry.

My temp was up this morn which is making me suspicious. I have a fertility monitor that will tell me exactly when I ovulated based on temps, so give it a few days and I reckon it will either give me a date or tell me I didn't ovulate at all!

If I see a strong pos opk tomorrow I'm going up be pretty excited.

LoopyLa · 13/11/2014 17:57

NewEra have you had any signs you may have ovulated? Does your cycle vary hugely or is it pretty regular?

Fx for tomorrow Flowers

Frolicacid · 13/11/2014 17:57

Thanks new. I'm a bit fed up about things not looking positive.
DH had a cold around my ov, so I know how you feel. Ttc is difficult enough without the added pressure. I hope you get your positive opk soon.

I took the soy in the evenings mrsE. I did have a couple of migranes in the four days that I took them. My migranes are usually hormonal, so it could have been the soy affecting my hormone levels. I'm in a bit of a quandary now as I want to take them again as they bought my ov forward, but I'm scared of the migraines! Maybe a lower dose?

BobsyBoo · 13/11/2014 17:16

Sorry that your not getting your positive OPK NewEra It's so frustrating isn't it. I got my positive on Monday but I'm not sure if I have actually ovulated at all and don't think I will now as boobs are sore so AF on her way Sad I'm wondering if taking the Soy wasn't such a good idea.

NewEraNewMindset · 13/11/2014 15:36

Argh, opk sti not positive and wee was nice and concentrated. So either I missed my surge, my surge is weak or OV is later this cycle. The main reason I meddled at all was to see if I could knock OV back a day or two and hopefully make it stronger, so this could be good news. If the test is completely bare tomorrow aft then I'm going to be Sad

MrsExtraOrdinary · 13/11/2014 10:20

Hi to those trying si. I've not read the entire thread but just wanted to check that those with bad symptoms were taking their dose at night. I took mine before bed on both cycles and I didn't suffer with headaches or nausea at all. Obviously it's not for everyone and it's about finding the right balance for your own body.

Nordicmom · 13/11/2014 10:04

No headache it other side affects that I can notice after the first dose ...

N1kkiL · 13/11/2014 09:05

Sorry to everyone having a bad time with SI; I hope you get some unexpected surprises!

I'm on day 3 of them; still no massive side effects bar a dull headache near the top of my head mid-afternoon. Tonight & tomorrow night I do 200mg though so might hit me then! Had quite a 'heavy' feeling & was quite aware of my uterus yesterday, might just be because I'm thinking about it more. OPK showed not even a faint line. DTD every 3 days atm.

NewEraNewMindset · 13/11/2014 08:52

I'm really sorry to hear that Frolic Sad

Well we were meant to DTD this morn but a combination of my coughing and spluttering and DP having some sort of fit in the shower about water going (and staying!!) in his ear meant that instead he has fucked off to work Angry

I am pissed off but trying my hardest not to be as even when we have timed sex perfectly for OV tons of times, it's made absolutely no difference. I'm hoping for a pos opk later and hoping he comes back home up for a quickie.

Oh the joys of TTC.

Frolicacid · 13/11/2014 08:42

Arrghhh!!! soy not dog! And ttc not trc.

Frolicacid · 13/11/2014 08:41

Sorry to everyone having shitty cycles. The soy seems really hit or miss.
It did make me ov earlier (which is what I wanted) but I suspect it may have given me terrible headaches. I am 12dpo and had a bfn this morning. My temp is also going down, so I think I'm probably out. I think we'll take a trc break now until next year. I might try dog again if my cycles go back to being long.

Good luck everyone!

TinkerBlue · 13/11/2014 08:09

Hi all, hope you don't mind me crashing your thread? I also took soy this cycle. 100g CD4-7, I'm now on CD17 and still haven't ovulated. My ovulation day is always CD15, positive opk day 14 but soy seems to have really messed things up! I gave up the opks and temping this cycle (idiot) as my cycle has been so reliable and I found they made me anxious. But was pretty sure I hadn't oved so took my temp this morning and it is low. Just wanted to share really as I see some of you are in the same boat x

BobsyBoo · 13/11/2014 07:53

Well I don't think I've ov'd this cycle so much for the Soy making ov stronger!

My temp wasn't up it had dipped on one thermometer & was same temp as yesterday on another thermometer. My boobs are sore so don't think I'll ov now. I should be on 2dpo but I'm worried now about what's going on maybe I took too much Soy Sad

NewEraNewMindset · 13/11/2014 07:34

I think I really need to write this cycle off, it's a total disaster. I am full of cold, there is nothing remotely sexy about a sore throat and streaming nose. My opks read something yesterday but nowhere near positive and my temps are up this morning. No sex occurred Sad

Think I might have missed the boat, feel really crap about it.