For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

Loopy I agree it looks good but I've just had too many false positives from those things to say it's definitely a BFP.

I have never had a false positive from a FRER. Clearblue digi with conception indicator is also sensitive pre AF. It's the standard digi that's not particularly sensitive.

I'm excited for you

I can see something loopy. But I think new is right to advise caution and a frer test as I have been caught out by evap lines on ic's in the past. Did the line come up quickly? If so, it's probably a positive. Fx for you

Hmm NewEra good to know, it's the first time I've used ICs (although a friend sent me these as she had some leftover & she's 24 wks pg now).

Don't know when I'll be late tho as period varies between 26-31 days, I'm cd29 at the mo. If I don't have another crappy night like last night, I'll test tomorrow on my precious FRER! but knowing me I'll test this evening because I can't help myself

I am not going to call it as those cheap tests have caught me out so many times.
Maybe wait until your late and pee on a branded test, then post it I here obviously

Gah! I'm 13dpo today & POAS just for the hell of it as I was convinced I'm out and I think I have a very faint line?!? I'm full of cold at the moment & have been up at least 3 times going to the loo & drinking water for my throat so the pee wouldn't have been concentrated. It's also so dark in the mornings that it's hard to see for certain

What do you think, am I imagining things?! always possible

GoodEgg I used to think first day of spotting was first day of AF.

NewEra I didn't know that about spotting being a sign of low progesterone, I've spotted before AF for as long as I can remember.

Thanks Frolic yeah it sure is just wish I could get off this emotional roller coaster now!

I'd best not read Toni Welcher then as that would really upset me as I'm 38 & already worrying my age is the problem. I have a book call Trying to get pregnant (and succeeding) by Marisa Peers, it's about using positive thinking to get pregnant it has some interesting stories in of people getting pregnant against the odds and also people getting pregnant in their 40's. My problem with the book is getting myself in a positive frame of mind, I can do it sometimes but other times I feel so down & think I'll never have another baby so not great positive thinking!

Fx for you new. Sorry you are feeling shitty bobsy. This ttc lark is so frustrating.

I'm on cd6 and have taken 100mg soy every night once cd3. I've not had a migraine again, so that's an improvement on last time. Will see how I feel tomorrow and if all is fine will take 150 for the last dose.

Have spent all weekend reading Toni weschler. Very informative, but the constant references to ladies over 35 being 'geriatric' has left me feeling a bit crap.

Yep, CD1 is first day of full flow. Spotting before AF can be an indication of low Progesterone but I know for some people it's just normal.

I'm not sure how auto correct has got 'Abernathy' from 'been'?!? I should really start previewing my posts!!!

Afternoon all. I also get about 4 days of spotting before full flow of AF and have Abernathy counting this as AF and so CD1. I get the impression from comments here that's not the right thing. Should be counting CD1 as the first full day I AF? If so that would give me an earlier ov and much better length LP which would be great but gives me a different worry about the spotting which can be good for implantation??

Oh that's a real shame girls

I am 8dpo, still getting creamy cm which is hopeful but had the same up until 8dpo last month and Bfn. Not going to test as it only depresses me so AF should arrive in exactly one weeks time.

On 12dpo & day 4 of spotting! Feeling very fed up, I know it's the start of AF so why am I stupid enough to get my hopes up for implantation! There was a lot more this morning when I wiped my body is doing exactly the same as it would before AF. AF should arrive tomorrow or Tuesday 22 cycles down & 2nd cycle of Soy so obviously not working for me, although I may give it one more attempt, if anything with soy at least I get a line on a +OPK whereas before taking soy I never got the hint of a second line on them.

Every cycle I get days of stupid spotting before AF shows her ugly head so annoying!!

No AF, no BFP - I'm really convinced I'm out this month, it's all very frustrating

I'm keen for AF to arrive so I can get on with the soy for the second month. And maybe start temping too...

I have tried soy for the first time this cycle. I generally have long cycles of varying lengths from 35 to 90 days. I'm not temping or doing OPK so not really sure if I have ovulated at all. I'm currently on CD 32.

I'm not sure if the following is attributed to the soy but I had spotting on CD25 and CD27, very minimal and only when I wiped. Yesterday on CD30 I had more spotting, slightly more than previous but again only when I wiped and nothing since. I did a FRER yesterday (before I was spottig) and was a BFN. I have symptoms of tender bound, occasional nausea and lots of creamy CM (hence the pg test). No idea what's going on, I have never spotted prior to AF arriving but because of my cycles I don't really know when AF will arrive.

It's so frustrating being in limbo. DH and I have DTD pretty much every other day since CD8 with the exception of this week.

I think I have resigned myself that I'm out this month and that the spotting is the start of AF (she had better hurry up if she is coming!!). I guess if AF arrives it confirms that the soy has shortened m cycle considerably which is progress.

Has anyone else experienced unusual Spotting whilst on soy and what were the outcomes? Positive or negative?

I was deRly hoping this month would be our month, I've had 2 MC in the last 5 months and my due date is approaching . . .

Oh loopy I hope it isn't AF. You can get light bleeding around the time you would expect your period so don't lose hope just yet.

Great news camry

I am 7dpo today, nothing to suggest implantation although I'm in a terrible mood and DP is convinced it's hormones and it means something!!

Thanks for your best wishes folks, hope it works for all of us. I think if you don't have regular cycles etc then the small wins just feel amazing. Like I actually think we could get pregnant now and it's not going to be an endless process of waiting. And tmi but I've been checking my cervix for the last 4 months and thought I could feel changes but really didn't understand what hard meant unti now, it's rock hard! What has my life become that this makes me so happy?!

That's great camry fx!

loopyla fx for you also. I hope the cat is right!!

Great Camry must be a relief!

I'll know for certain by the end of the day - I had a browny smear when I wiped this morning so could be AF. Trying not to think it could be late implantation (I'm 11 dpo today) but I'm also very bloaty - which was the first sign of pregnancy when I conceived dc#1! plus my cat tried to snog me this morning

If it's implantation then no point poas-ing til tomorrow morning anyway as it won't show up on an HPT so soon.

Hi all, been lurking and just wanted to share my soy experience because I'm over the moon this morning - ff crosshairs say I ovulated in Thursday. Not ovulated by myself in 5 months. Took provera to bring on period after a 100+ day cycle. Period came 5 days after last provera pill then took soy cd3-7. Can't believe it actually worked ?? now I get to do my first 2ww. Yay!

Oh Loopy how disappointing!! Fingers crossed you get that second line when you test next.

We are definitely due some BFPs on here now. I won a tenner on a scratch card today so I think this is going to be my lucky cycle.

Hi all,

I commented a little while back on here but havent visited since. I have just had a browse through all of your messages, congratulations to all the girls with the BFP's - really pleased for you all. And to those of you who havent had great news just yet, I have my fx for you all and wish you lots of luck.

I started with SI last night as I finally had AF come to visit. I generally have 90+ day cycles and have just started treating this with acupuncture. I had 1 session of acupuncture last week on day 49, day 56 arrived with AF which I am very happy about. I wanted to try SI also because of all these lovely success stories but was told I needed to wait for my CD1. So I took 100mg last night and will do tonight, tomorrow I will take 150mg and 200mg for CD 4 & 5. I didnt ovulate in my last 56 day cycle so I am hoping SI will encourage me to ovulate and in correct time frames while the acupuncture brings my cycle lengths down.

I have a 9 year old DD from a previous relationship. OH has no chilldren but we have discovered he has a low sperm count, however he does have very good quality sperm so we will probably be a little longer than your 'normal' couple but here's to SI andall of our BFPs! :)

NewEra no second line in the daylight (this is the problem with poas-ing first thing, the light is crap!). Think I'm kidding myself so will test on Sunday - not hopeful though, I've been so mardy this week it has to be pmt!