For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

Soy isoflavones

Hi all!
We have been trying to conceive for the past 12 months with no luck as of yet. Both myself and my partner have had all relevant tests (all came back fine) eating well and exercising.
My friend who is also TTC mentioned about soy isoflavones and said they increase your estrogen levels therefore you are more likely to conceive.
I have been doing some research on them and I've read not to take them if you already have a regular cycle as it can cause hormone in balance. My cycle is pretty much like clockwork between 30-31 days.
My question is.. has anyone taken the soy isoflavones who already has a regular cycle, and managed to conceive?
Thanks

Hi

I see this thread hasn't been updated in a bit so i hope no one minds me posting on it!

I have been taking SI for the past two cycles, My last cycle was verging on 160 days thanks to PCOS so i thought i'd take 5 days of SI. Not sure if i ovulated however it gave me a proper period around 20 days after starting these SI's. I am now on CD 9 having taken SI again this cycle. No positive OPK yet but hoping it works again this cycle. Anyone else out there taking SI?

Congrats Tolly!! I been reading lots on si and decided to try it this month after 3months ttc.

Taking soy isoflavones on : cd 2-6 ...only day 3 now, so I will see what happens.

I previously tried vitex for 3 months due to irregularities. ..but didn't seem to be ovulating. So I'm trying something different this month. :)

Congrats Tolly!

Tolly thank you and congrats on your BFP

I bought natures aid from Amazon

Hi there
Sorry if this is a silly question, but where are you getting your SI tablets nowadays? Tesco has stopped stocking them. Amazon and H&B only seem to stock 750mg tablets and most of the doses mentioned above seem to be a lot lower (120mg etc). Am I being dense? (probably!)
Thanks very much.

I've just gotten a bfp after 6 months ttc. Took 200mg of soy cd2-6. Ovulated much earlier than usual. Also used pre seed. Fingers crossed it sticks.

Ooh good luck Lollipop keep us updated! I missed that last cycle with soy as we were on hols but waiting for ov now, I'm on CD25 and no sign yet....

Thanks ladies. I've just got my period today ???? so went straight out and bought the soy. Really hoping it works for me. Baby dust to you both x

I agree about not taking soy and a.c. together.
I had no luck with soy but was referred to a fertility specialist so this cycle I have been given letrozole (a slightly more expensive but also marginally better alternative to clomiphene), had an hcg shot, and am now on progesterone pessaries. Will see what happens.

Hi Lollipop only just seen this post sorry! I think agnus castus shouldn't be taken with soy isoflavones but I don't know where I've got that from - it's just something in the back of my mind! Fingers crossed one of them works for u tho!

I couldn't take my soy tablets this month as I was on hols and didn't dare to take the tablets thru the airport!!! Wouldn't have been a great start to the hols to be spending the night being interrogated in a Spanish holding cell!!!!

How's everyone else?

Hi ladies. I'm considering taking SI on my next cycle if I don't get a BFP this cycle, as this is our 8th month of ttc. I'm currently taking Evening Primrose Oil and Agnus Castus. Does anyone know if I should stop taking these with SI? Thanks and good luck to everyone!

Ooh that'd be a good result then aux - keep us posted!

Should read cd2/3 - cd 6/7 above.

Hi laura. I'm still waiting for a positive opk but I'm hoping that the masses of ewcm I've had yesterday and today indicates ov coming. If so the si would have brought my ov forward by seven days and hopefully cause me to actually release an egg,which would be amazing and hopefully leave me with a lengthened lp as well to allow for implantion. Will update when I know more. Fwiw I took cd2/3 (not sure as af arrived overnight) and started below 100 and built up to about 200 (my pills were odd amounts so funny totals). Good luck for you!

Update: af arrived and I'm now on to my next cycle. I've gone for it with the soya tablets this time and took 160mg yesterday which was CD1...my last cycle was 61 days so I want to strengthen and bring forward ov as much as poss!

Any news from anyone else?

Unfortunately FF took away my tentative positive ov from CD 41, but on the plus side I've had a very definite positive opk tonight on CD 47! Whoop! Can't wait to see what happens, and if I've got another soy cycle I think I'll take them earlier maybe CD2-7 and see if there's any difference to bring my cycle length down a bit.

I finally had my positive opk at c21...
I don't think i'll be taking SI next month...

Well, well, well-CD44 today and FF tells me I possibly ov'd on CD41! Not bad at all, very pleased I'm not looking at another 150 day cycle! Doubt I'll have conceived though and we only dtd once around that time...damn! Still, another cycle means another shot at it :) may alter the SI days and amount this next cycle and see if i can't cut the cycle down a bit more!

Here @ cd17 with no hint of a positive OPK...

Hello all, been a while since i have visited but i wanted to tell about my soy adventure as it is inconclusive, i had not ov properly and was having crazy cycles so worth a shot.

I took 140mg on cd 4-8 in Nov, but cycle was 38 days..and no ov so lmo 31st dec.. so took again in early jan.. didn't ov until cd 36.. and sheer chance /desperation poas on a ov ic and got a positive. Dtd a couple of times as didn't know if pre or post ov... and then gave up. Went to Dr , had book tests and shrugged shoulders at body.

Randomly did a test on CD46 or something as wanted to take mepsip and found a test in my drawer. to pass time as was off sick i poas to get rid of this last test. and .. ahem... BFP. Currently 8+3weeks pg..

So not sure if they worked... i was still irregular and the GP was a little concerned about my admitting i took it as it was unclear of the impact of the quality of the eggs unlike climbed. Ended up having a scan to check on the sac etc at 5 weeks as i was bleeding, and midwife asked if i had taken it... give my notes and said she wouldn't advise it.

Sorry about the doom and gloom but wanted to share.

It seems soy messes up quite a lot of cycles. But I think it is similar with lots of other drugs - for example lots of people take prednosolone during luteal phase and it does not mess up their cycle, but it did mess up mine. Soy, the one time I used it, did not mess with my cycle but gave me a pregnancy, later mc though. We are all so different....

Hi all, just an update with no update really! CD40 today with not even a hint of af. Two hpt's done and both negative. Waiting is boring...

@Nomio230: I'm also 37. I also don't always ovulate and when I do, it's quite late: cd18-20. Last month it was cd22. I also have a short luteal phase of 10 days. A short lp at our age can mean low ovarian reserve. I have been diagnosed with that. Have you had your amh-levels checked yet?

@artylady14: on what day do you usually ovulate?

I have been ttc #1 since 3 years now. We are diagnosed with male infertility and low ovarian reserve (low amh). We are currently undergoing our second round of IVF. The fresh transfer resulted in a chemical pregnancy and this cycle I hope to have a frozen embryo transfer.
I use SI to bring my ovulation forward, so I don't have to wait so long every time. Also, I want a strong ovulation since I still have hope for a natural conception.