November bus opening doors- all aboard for BFPs!!!

Thank you so much. I'm still in shock.

Sending you all baby dust X

Oh and congrats seafoam

jessica EPO should defo help cm, I've started it and I get loads now but then I'm never dry anyway so perhaps I didnt need it anyway lol.

Googling the saliva kills sperm thing and I just don't buy it. Think logically.....there would have to be A LOT of saliva inside a vagina to reverse the positive affects of cervical mucous so unless you drooled all over the penis and he gave u oral which involved a lot of drool then I really cannot see how it would prevent u ttc. I can totally understand that if u are struggling to conceive then u will obv do anything (or not do something) to increase your chances but if you're not struggling then I think it's wrong to just say saliva kills sperm and that be the end of it.

It's the only way that I can make my dp get close enough to finish the job so obv I'm gonna find info for the 'for' argument rather than the 'against' one but I like to research and make up my own mind about things. It's not like he jizzes as soon as I jump on him after the bj, it still takes some time and I have plenty of cm so it should be enough. I also don't really slobber while giving a bj, I suck it all down so the amount of saliva would be minimal. Anyone agree with me?? It's not like I like doing them but I can't keep up the stamina of going at it for 30 minutes and him still not coming. At least this way it halves the time.

Congratulations seafoam excellent news! And a lucky omen for this bus methinks.

I'm also one who prefers the first half of the cycle. Not actually knowing what is going on annoys me, and I get to poas without stress.

I think I'm gonna try epo or grapefruit juice this month. I've never had much CM and hopefully that'll help. If I try one new thing each month then I can hopefully figure out what works for me and what doesn't.

Orange the docs recommend eod for dtd, and SMEP only adds one extra dtd so I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes tbh. But if my cm experiments don't work this month, I'm probs gonna give it a try next month!

And thank you for the SMEP rundown proof. Sounds pretty similar to what we are currently doing, except we tend to stick to EOD dtd so far. May have to up the ante, as it were

seafoam that's great news! So happy for you

Congratulations seafoam what fantastic news. Happy, healthy 8 months for you.

Congrats seafoam!!!

congratulations seafoam! x

can I join please?

TTC #2, now on cycle 6, I cant really remember how many cycles it took to conceive DS1 as we weren't keeping a track, I hadn't been on the pill for ages as I felt it made me a bit crazy! So if I think when we actively DTD around fertile time, which I casually took as two weeks prior to period, it probably took around 9 months. This time, I have been more aware of my cycle and have been using Ovia, but I think we probably just don't dtd often enough, tiredness being a big thing for me. Also quite fat at the moment which has put me off intimacy. So trying to lose weight get healthy, up the ante DTD wise and conceive DC2!!

my stats- 33, TTC DS2, cycle 6. BPF due 11th November. Good luck everyone!

Can't believe I'm saying this.. but ladies, I'm getting off.

Bfp this morning. Looks like my cycle must have adjusted itself and I caught.

I so so hope you all get yours next month. X

I'm in! Although AF hasn't bothered to show up yet at CD 30. I've had 3 BFN though so I'm hopping on this bus.

Stats:
age 36. ttc #3. cycle 5 (2 months off after a cp). BFP due ???

I'm cd11 or 12 depending when AF started (it was a bit confusing this month) so I'm just approaching my fertile window. I'm only panicking because I'd read that the swimmers were better if they were produced regularly and I don't think that dps are so I figured I'd try starting them going last night. I also asked him if he ever does it himself in between times but he wouldn't give me a serious answer. I'm trying to do everything I can to make this work but he's not doing. He just thinks I'm being funny and overthinking everything. It's just so frustrating.

Aargh rant over sorry. I had a positive opk cd17 last month so there's still time but i need to get his swimmers better!

orange SMEP is basically DTD EOD starting on CD8 whilst using OPKs. When you get a +ve OPK DTD three days in a row. Then skip a day and do one more for luck!

I think we started too early and lost a bit of momentum last month. DH has trouble sleeping anyway and was shattered in week two. We'll see what happens!

Cycle 2 for us too secret. No wonder you struggle to DTD with 3 DCn! I hope you can add to your brood soon.

MrsG I think I prefer the first half... at that point you know you aren't pregnant (I don't like uncertainty!) plus you get to DTD a lot!

Dozy sounds like it's still early days this cycle if you haven't had a +ve OPK yet - there's still time, you haven't missed the boat yet!

Good luck mrsg. Hope it's nothing sinister. My dad has had lots of skin cancer things removed over the years and he's still going strong.

I'm losing my poas addiction. My opks aren't showing a second line yet even just a faint one and I quite enjoyed last month seeing a second line even tho I knew it meant negative. Will try again today and hope for a stronger one. Feeling impatient this month and want to get to the strong positive again so I can get excited.

Haven't even started DTD yet since AF left the building :( tried to last night but I got in a mood with DP so gave up. I don't have a good feeling about this month at all.

Woohoo. Flashing smiley today, so we are off! Dh is out tonight, so I will have to pounce on him tomorrow night instead. :)

I much prefer the second half of the cycle, symptom spotting is so much better than waiting for af to sod off and then waiting again for an eggy to start coming along.

ruby Welcome. Sorry to see you here, but lovely to have you (hope you know what I mean) :)

Any gossip with anyone else?

I have an important hospital appointment tomorrow to get some results on my further biopsy after the removal of a scary mole. I also have a scary presentation at work this morning. Eeek! All that is distracting me quite a bit from ttc. Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing! :)

orange smep is sperm meets egg plan I think...

theproof November will be cycle 2 (October we didn't manage to dtd at all though!) Ttc #4. DC1 and 2 were conceived very easily but dc3 took a couple of years so I'm feeling a bit nervous about trying again. Praying it won't take very long. I don't have age on my side any more!

Seen it in a few places now - what's SMEP please?

Can I still get a ticket here's my stats rubyrubes13 # 31 ttc 1 cycle 4 bfp due 14 November ... Well after been in limbo for 5 days (af 5 days late blame it on folic acid) I got scared off the October's by a witch .. hope everyone's ok sad but thrilled to see some familiar faces xxx

I've just been reading through SMEP - I think that I'll be giving that a go along with the OPKs. No point weeing on stuff if you don't use the information it gives you!

Which cycle are you on secret? Have you got any DCs?

Thanks secretreveleater same to you! X

I might try some grapefruit juice then. Do you have to stop drinking it after ov like epo. I'm a bit scared of taking epo in case for some reason I take it after ov but I think I could do with a little help....we always kinda relied on saliva before

theproof I will also be using opks and conceive plus for the first time. Here's hoping they help.

Welcome stow sorry you've been through losses. Hopefully your stay here will be short.

Thanks @MrsGingerbread let's make it happen in November! X

Good luck everyone!

Welcome to our new passengers!

stow I'm in the same boat with the two mcs. Sorry for your losses.

toots I'm not funny, so it can't be essential, welcome.

Hello to anyone else who is lurking! :)

I'm happily peeing on my opks now, but no smiley yet.