Emergency bus for August! Penis dragons welcome, summer loving continued!

In that case ohlordy, until you are more sure of your cycles, you should follow The SMEP Plan
It isn't just for people who have suffered a loss, lots of women follow it. Have a read and see what you think!

phryn just nearly spat out my tea at welly wanging- thought it was maybe a mumsnet euphemism :)

kitty I'm only on cycle 2 since coming off the pill. My first cycle was 28 days exactly, but it was probably a fluke! I used to be very irregular pre-pill.
I've got dome internet cheapies to try this month snd if not successful may try cbfm next cycle.

Watch those wellies Phryn-you might be a pregnant lady

Mrs E I'm with you in limbo land CD 38 (ish - I'm away and my app is on a tablet without battery) and nothing. A tiny bit of nausea, some orangy CM and cramping but no AF. Not tested yet as I've had a 42 day cycle before also I'm away surrounded by people who don't know we're TTC and I don't want the dissapointment or excitement to feel too public. I'll test on Sun am if no AF. Would really like some definate news either way!

GTG - doing it's a knockout on the kids camp this am and I'm in charge of the welly wanging!

Good luck to all especially those enduring the tww (or longer!)

Just been on FB and laurano commented on the TTC Penis Dragon group yesterday and she is feeling better

spinning I think so. I set my alarm for 6am every morning (about time I get up for work) -turn alarm straight off, grab my thermometer and "place it in" I usually go straight back to sleep (holidays) and when I next wake up, take it out and hold the button down to get the recorded temp.

When you temp vaginally do you still need uninterrupted sleep and to do it before rising?

misty have no idea why the grin is there-though I had put an 'o' for the word onwards Please ignore it!

Misty -dry mouth can be a symptom of a big surge in progesterone-maybe that was all it was? So sorry for the AF:onwards and upwards!

genni -how many CB sticks do you have left? I'd try another one around 4-5pm today if the two lines were very close together in colour. I did and got my solid and a BFP that cycle!
I haven't been on FB in the past few weeks due to a big influx of pregnancy announcements but I'll brave it to send laurano a private message to see if she is alright. I know that last BFN and AF knocked her for six and I hope feels better and is looking forward to another chance.

kurama Jeez sweetie, you are in a bad way. Trip to a nice sympathetic Doctoris in order, regardless of TTC or not. Am sharing my morning and with you

MrsE I use the BabyMad thermometer for Amazon, vaginally. To be honest, any BBT thermometer to 2dp will be fine. So sorry your body is playing games with you. Very frustrating when you don't know what is going on

That diagram fits me perfectly English

ohlordy how long are your cycles normally? Generally, on average most people start on CD10 but you might need to be earlier than that or not bother until later, IYSWIM?

I still am not sure if I really have ovulated yet. My bbt went up to the same temp as day before yesterday, I really need the next two days temps to check but I have two nights out planned! I really haven't had any fertile CM so not sure if the Soy Isoflavones have dried that up or I am yet to ovulate Oh, the dilemmas!

spinning currently waiting for call from doc as its gone from spotting to light flow.... feeling extremely pissed off at mo so hope boss is in a good mood or I will end up taking it out on him! only there till 2 today so hopefully will survive

Good morning ladies. What day do you usually start opk? I'm currently cd7, and itching for my fertile window.

Keeping fingers crossed blue! Sorry to hear yoke still in limbo mrse! U seem so calm, hope u get yourself sorted one way or another?

I'm not due AF until the 14th so I know it's far too early! I'm been really achey yesterday and the roof of my mouth feels swollen and I had loads of blood brushing my teeth last night which apparently can be a symptom??.......so I'm slightly driving myself mental symptom spotting hence the desperation to test! :(

Sunshine, frer say they work 4 days before af is due. When is your af/bfp due?

Kurama, sorry to hear you're still in limbo, how frustrating for you.

Morning lovelies!

Sorry the bitch came Misty!

We're definitely due some BFPs here!!
Hope the mortgage comes through MrsE!
Detective - that is some serious DTD action! I hope it pays off!!

Anyway - found this on Pinterest - probably resonates with most of us!!

Will catch up properly later as im on my phone.

Still crampy today and feeling sick but no AF yet I really do hope she doesnt come early.

Shes due Tuesday if 28 day cycle but last month was only 26 days!

I used the gerantherm thermometer from amazon. You can use it vaginally but I temp orally.

Ahh thanks kurama!! I know I should be holding out it's just soo hard!! I come on here so u ladies can talk some sense into me!

Sorry to hear u had a rough night, FX for u, could they be symptoms? X

Sunshine it's best to wait till at least 12dpo

Misty sorry af got you.
Fx detective.
Well I actually had a tiny bit of bleeding overnight which is unusual but then again I hardly slept and spent most of night tossing and turning my stomach feels weird I feel sick and my back hurts.... Maybe I should phone doc after work and ask for advice
Hope everyone's ok today x

Detective that sounds like a challenge you've had! But well done! FX!

Sorry to hear AF showed up misty, enjoy your hols and relax u never know u may gets lots of DTD on your jollys and get lucky!

Genni I don't seem to get any ewcm and found opks useful this month! Hopefully you get DTD in time when hubby gets home!

Spinning I'm also 9dpo and I'm desperate to POAS! But really want to hold out in case of disappointment. When is the best time to try??

Sorry misty :(

We are definitely due a BFPs - who's it gonna be?!

Thanks for the stats tickle.

Also has anyone seen laurano? I don't think I've missed her posts?