The Elderberry Pavlovas are tooling up and making plans to bust out of this joint! Evacuation by helicopter by end of September, no berry left behind!

Thanks merk happy to be enlightened! 13 dpo is what it said initially but 16dpo is what it changed to today.

My day 11 temp I discarded because I had a 24 hour food poisoning and it was over 37. I have unticked to see if it makes a difference.

Tiger I actually agree with FF that O was cd13. It's struggling as your cd11 temp is missing which is crucial. I can give you a long winded explanation if you want it but I won't bore you unless you ask

crazy I will also recommend you get to doctors sooner rather than later. You'd be amazed at how treatment, waiting times etc vary from county to county so go and get the ball rolling. As we were older we went to the doctor after about 6mths but said we'd been trying for a year. We then went quiet and let the nhs do their thing, which was sperm sample, bloods and then nothing really so we went back after an actual year and then we got referred to a fertility doctor who did an internal scan, from that she thought my follicles were small and would expect to see more so suggested a private amh test ( tests your ovarian reserve). That came back with a low result so we were then put on waiting list for a laparoscopy. Did that, didn't get the famed 3 mth diff that can come from having your pipes cleaned. So from then we were put forward for Ivf. That was 2 and a half years after first ttc, 2 years after our first doc appt. that timeline is pretty good compared to a lot of berries so yes, get thee to a doctor!!

Yup I def think barking and hb could go into business! I'd buy from you.

Chart

Tiger I would leave FF on advanced. If you link to your chart I could take a look?

crazycat I'd agree with the others and go to the GP. I first went to mine back in September last year and have only just finished all investigations. The wait for an appointment where I am is generally 3-4 months so it has been really slow.

Hello lovely berries, hope you don't mind me dropping in briefly from the copter (I didn't go near mumsnet until we finally got our bfp so went straight there).

Anyway, I have just under 50 internet cheapie ovulation tests and a dozen ic pregnancy tests, having put in a big order while in a very pessimistic mood. I'm unlikely to use them before they expire (May 2015) and it seems silly for them to go to waste, so I wondered if they'd be useful to anyone here? If so PM me your address and I'll pop them in the post.

Hope to see you all in the copter soon.

Crazy I second Barkings advice on getting to the GP sooner, you will be amazed how long everything takes. DH and I started TTC 3 years ago and have only just finished our first cycle. The who process is pretty lengthy.

Barking I'm glad that you are taking some time off. In hindsight I should have taken time out (although I was nowhere near as far ahead as you) sooner to try and get my head around things. The bear is adorable by the way - perhaps we should go into business!

TTC is a complete mindf@@k!

Happy Sunday all - here's hoping for better weather......

morning berries. was at yet another wedding yesterday, no reception so just caught up this am. thanks for the guideline wild. Mine's 2.8 so am also now going to ask for a re test. i can't believe how much text docs are supposed to read to keep up to date! absurd. No wonder things are missed.

glad you're being looked after so well barking. dh sounds a sweetie.

i started spottong yesterday so af on her way :( why this always seems to coincide with being in a room full of pregant or younger mothers i don't know. maybe i was Pol Pot in a previous life or something.

short post as on phone, which is nearly as bad as yours, happy! happy sunday all

Hi ladies,

thanks for your wonderful welcome. I need to get quicker at these replies! Things move fast here!

tigerdog not tried BBT partly because I am a bit unsure how?!?! but did invest in an advanced clearblue fertility monitor so seriously hoping that will help... Not gone to the GP yet either because I must be honest with them and there were some lifestyle factors - alcohol/diet/weight (I'm on the lower end of the BMI) which I know they will ask me to address first. I am in the process of doing all of these now. I have started being very honest with myself and what my own faults are. That alone has been a bit difficult

gillster I think I will give it 6 months of being perfect before I go and see my GP or maybe 3 months depending how desperate I end up feeling! Good luck with your conditioning and fingers crossed for August

the raindrops totally too late for JSing I am a very obsessed lady - and spent all night dreaming about pregnancy and babies... eek!!!

oh barking I do feel for you. You must put yourself first. Your physical and mental wellbeing through this process is important. Enjoy cake

beaky hahahaha!!!!!! OMG LOVE OITNB!!! I am so sad I watched the entire season in about 3 days after it came out I need a hobby - making babies! Replacing one obsession with another...

I can also confirm, despite the initial scepticism about the reflexology, this was so weird... She asked me to tell her when she touched a part on my foot which is 'tender' so I say there - my ovaries and the again there - it was my womb... not thinking anything of it because it could be a load of old bollocks but, still very weird. Also a 'tender' bit was my bladder so I spent the rest of the day thinking I had a UTI

Happy Sunday all - my advice to all is take some R&R

xx

happy keep em coming!! Hehe! Not sure about the erratic temps although I think it's quite common around af and can also be affected by how hot it is etc. this is my chart so far....answers on a postcard as to when I ovulated please!

Bum guessing sounds like an interesting pass time Happy!

Omfg. 'Im', not bum!!

Cross post Tiger. I've no idea what the settings on FF mean but I've just checked mine and it's set to Advanced. On a side note my temps went completely mad in the first week of this cycle bum guessing it's because the weather was so warm and I was sleeping with the blankets off?

Morning Berries. Glad my 'nits' have caused so much hilarity! Funky and Barking hope you're both doing as well as can be expected. Thinking of you .
Amazing teddy Barking - you are so creative!!
Went to watch The Fault in Our Stars last night. Soooo sad. Stock up on the Kleenex if you're considering it
Pretty sure I OVd yesterday which was cd13 and slightly late for me. FX for a 26 day cycle so it doesn't screw up our chances of an early September start for IVF.
Off out for brunch today and then hopefully a long walk, weather permitting. Have a lovely Sunday all.

barking it's the mind body fertility connection by James Schwartz. I'm feeling very conscious of the emotional side of ttc at the moment. That teddy you made is fab, I bet your friend will love it.

I need some charting advice. This morning ff decided to switch my ovulation day from cd 13 to cd 16. Personally I don't think either are right, I think it's probably cd 14 myself. Oddly if you change the setting from advanced to
Fam then it also changes the dates back. What settings do people use?

Ahh the duggars. My favourite guilty pleasure car crash TV show.
How strange they are.

That's it really. Nothing much to say. Too tired from charity dinner last night. Just popped in to say hi.

Ahh, barking that teddy is the sweetest and you are super-talented. The last time I tried to knit a scarf it ended up looking like it had been moth eaten. I would so love to learn how to do it properly.

rain very frustrating re SA results. Why can't people just do their bloody jobs properly!!

Arr that is soo cute barking! You are very clever and generous to make these for people. Sounds like you had a nice day with dh. No, you will not turn into one of those people because you live on planet earth and you also know, that even though your child might be very special and much longed for, they are still a child and will do silly things. That woman probably would have been that kind of mother whether she'd got diffed straight away or not. There does seem to be an inordinate amount of parents nowadays that always believe their child and think they can do no wrong.

rain good god! what a ridiculous amount of children and miscarriages! We have a religion a bit like that in parts of the area we live in. A friend of mine moved to an area where there is a high concentration of them. V religious, conservative, wear little hankie-like head scarf things, no tv etc but the window cleaner told her try have a lot of sex!!