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Going Clucking mental? Old birds gather round.....

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 13/05/2014 10:54

A thread for the older ttc'er. Join us in the chicken coop for support, advice or just somewhere to rant.

Here's the old thread for those wanting to do serious lurking:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1978730-Old-birds-wanna-join-the-coop?msgid=47008448#47008448

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 17/06/2014 16:33

I would sebs. You are all making me laugh today Grin

tilly click on choose file which is below the box you post in (on phone anyway), you can then add the pic

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sebsmummy1 · 17/06/2014 16:08

Girls, can I ask you to look at the opk I've just gone and tell me if you would call it a peak stick?

Going Clucking mental? Old birds gather round.....
stubbornstains · 17/06/2014 14:44

Ooh, Athens is really nice! (well, I like it anyway). You'd get a holiday thrown in!

Thanks for looking at my chart Annie- gosh, I'm a bit scared now.....This is the only long cycle I've ever had- were all yours like this? In your opinion, do you think I did ovulate in the end? (hopeful).

I'm seeing the GP on Thurs, so will take a print out.

Tilly73 · 17/06/2014 13:54

I don't fancy the thought of these cups but did get pregnant the last time after raising my hips up for 15 mins after, so don't know whether it made a difference Smile
How do u put pics on here I can't see anything on my phone that let's me ( to show you my tattoo not the position!!!) Shock

AnnieHoo · 17/06/2014 13:51

Ginger sorry I got confused there won't be a waiting list at GCRM, just long until open day. I have heard great things about Serum in Athens and saw a programme about it last month on the telly, the couple on it had quads - 2 sets of identical twins! www.facebook.com/ivfserum

If it was just me I'd be there like a shot. I haven't mentioned it to DH but I just get the feeling that he would say 'enough is enough' if i tried to drag him to Athens. But maybe I should look at it again...

Sebsmummy I'm expecting Peak tomorrow too.

I don't think I'm tipping my hips enough (1 pillow underneath) as when he withdraws he kind of kneels a bit on the mattress and it all runs out and I'm like 'oh no! quick pass me my soft cup!' and he's like 'your wot?'. Haha! Then I shove it up and try and scoop up what's left. I give myself the big O and nod off. I haven't been able to co-ordinate myself enough to do the mixing pre-seed around the rim with my finger thing yet.

TMI alert When i took it out this morning I had a look and there was about 2 x 50p size of what looked like EWCM/Semen mixed up in the cup so must have been left up there and good to know that was pressing against my cervix from midnight-8am... probably make bog all difference!Wink

sebsmummy1 · 17/06/2014 12:28

I'm always so careful not to interrupt proceedings which is ridiculous and totally indicative of TTC sex. Whereas normally if it's a bit uncomfy is say, 'oi, stop, I need to change positions' now I accept it as otherwise the end result could be no baby juice.

Please God can I just get properly duffer so I can go back to having a fun sex life again. Thank you.

Gingerbreadlady1 · 17/06/2014 12:25

I've also heard its good to pop in some conceive plus/pre seed into it before had however I've not done this yet (had 1 good to go but they're was a failure to launch incident). (Or 2).

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sebsmummy1 · 17/06/2014 12:24

Annie I'm using softcups. I keep my hips up and pop it in straight after sex then stay with my hips elevated for 15 mins. I've been getting EWCM for a few days now and showed a high on the CBFM today. If I do ovulate this month (I haven't been charting my temps so I won't know for certain) it should happen in the next few days. Hoping I get a peak tomorrow.

Gingerbreadlady1 · 17/06/2014 12:16

There, not theyre

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Gingerbreadlady1 · 17/06/2014 12:15

Have you looked into serum in Athens, they specialise in older ladies. Feedback is amazing, it's on my short list annie. They're are waiting lists for gcrm too???? How long pls?

tilly hi, glad I'm not currently on the dtd marathon. So had enough of ttc sex!

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AnnieHoo · 17/06/2014 12:12

But you are younger that me so have a MUCH better chance.Smile It's only 15% -17% for over 40's.

AnnieHoo · 17/06/2014 12:08

We're still booked for Spire Edinburgh clinic at beginning of July. It has to be Edinburgh as have family there to stay with. I looked at GCRM too. Can't believe how long the waiting lists are there. Have you checked out forums on fertilityfriends.co.uk but they're a bit depressing.... IVF is not the magic solution... That's why I'm totally going for it this month. God this is so hard!

Tilly73 · 17/06/2014 11:54

Hi everyone hope you are all ok. Nothing much happening with me we've DTD a lot and I have no idea where I am on my cycle yet, so just trying to relax a bit Smile

Gingerbreadlady1 · 17/06/2014 11:48

Hi everyone. annie I've used them after dtd last couple of months, no joy, but they're easy to use so whatever helps. How's your ivf stuff progressing? I'm researching. Gcrm open days fully booked for next 2 months but seriously considering abroad. I called gri, my apt next month is just to get me on waiting list, 12-14 months. Sod that!

smiler, best of luck, would love it if you gave us a wee up date occasionally.

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AnnieHoo · 17/06/2014 10:58

Had a look at your chart Stubborn it is eerily like mine before Clomid. It looks like your body tried to ovulate around day 16/17 and then again around day 27/28. Long cycles are so cruel, it's difficult to know when to DTD because you've already had a positive OPK so you assume it's over. Would be worth showing this to your GP and asking them what they think.

I'm using Softcups this month to try and get a BFP. I'm on CD14, 5th High day waiting for Peak day.

Anyone else trying Softcups? Ginger are you going to? The more I read about it the more convinced I am it works.

Smiler1972 · 16/06/2014 15:27

Thank you gingerbread sorry I've not posted sooner but been a busy week.

I was only trying for three months, second month ended in CP and then thought I'd be out when I didn't ov until cd 40 and me and ex bf split up. I got pregnant from the last time we had sex six/seven days prior to ov! My soap opera life!

I'm now 5w+2 so still early but got 3+ weeks on a digital so CP paranoia now abated. I'm now on blighted ovum paranoia train!

I'm 41 and single, told family and they are fine. Found out loads about my ex so have made a decision to not tell him about the pregnancy I know some of you will hate me for that but I've already had one control freak, violent man in my life and I don't want another.

Hope my story gives you all a bit of hope on ttc!

Tranquilitybaby · 16/06/2014 00:00

Ah thanks. No until 10am tomorrow, I've just submitted mine

stubbornstains · 15/06/2014 20:40

Ah, it popped up at the top of Active Convos and then disappeared again....playing peekaboo Smile. I don't know if it's too late to submit a question, but I'm intrigued to hear the answers...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_q_and_a/2101897-Q-A-about-fertility-claims-with-Sense-About-Science

Tranquilitybaby · 15/06/2014 20:33

How Do I find the Q&A? Intrigued

stubbornstains · 15/06/2014 20:31

OOH! Have you seen the subject of this week's Mumsnet Q&A? Geek out cluckers!

stubbornstains · 15/06/2014 10:22

It's crap, isn't it sebs?

sebsmummy1 · 15/06/2014 10:17

I only mention it as the months I had LOADS I was think YAY!!! only to get BFNs. The month I fell pregnant (January) I had hardly any at all, sadly ended in mc. Then when I fell pregnant again in April I had bloody EWCM just before my period, then found out I was pregnant (not viable) after my period. So my relationship with EWCM is a tense one lol

Now of course when I want to see the stuff it is absent, and instead I have copious white creamy cm. I think my hormones are just screwed up still, every time I wipe I scrutinise the toilet paper and my pants to an inch of their lives. Not the way I want to live!!!

stubbornstains · 15/06/2014 10:10

Oh yes, TCOYF is just a tad obsessed about EWCM...Grin

sebsmummy1 · 15/06/2014 10:04

It's funny as the months I had tons of EWCM I found I didn't fall pregnant, so don't get too caught up on EWCM if you don't produce lots of it and are knocking on a bit, I don't think that's a great predictor of fertility on it's own.

Probably one of the best things you can do to enhance fertility is quit smoking and maintain a healthy weight.

stubbornstains · 15/06/2014 08:24

Hello my lovelies! DP and I have mostly made it up- well, we have really, but he did have to go home last night due to a lot of work on but hey, that doesn't matter, it's not the fertile time of my cycleGrin.

I was fretting about the age statistics (again) and came across this comment on the Taking Charge of Your Fertility forums that put it a bit into perspective:

"I'm a research scientist who uses probability stats in my data analyses. Probability stats like the ones posted above usually reflect population-wide averages; the don't tell you where YOU are chance-wise. For instance, at age 40 the population-wide rate of conception may be 50%, but that includes all the 40-year-olds who don't ovulate, those who use substances, those who don't chart and know nothing about when they are most fertile, etc. In fact, the chance they give you is a mean chance level, meaning it's centrally located in a normal curve of chance rates: 40-year-olds who have hit menopause already have zero chance, whereas 40-year-olds who are still ovulating and produce tons of EWCM and know exactly when ovulation occurs and have all the other characteristics of highly fertile people are going to have a much higher chance! So on average 40-year-olds might have a 50% chance, but that doesn't mean YOU have a 50% chance if you're 40. This isn't to say that you can override nature if your body truly isn't fertile, but doing all the stuff we do to maximize our fertility certainly isn't going to LOWER our chances either. So I say, keep at it! (38 here, and clinging to my optimism.) [f]"

By the way, I had to run a search history on this poster to track this comment that I read yesterday down again, and nowadays she's mostly pondering vaginal vs. Caesarean and where the best place to have her baby might be Grin

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