TTC 10 Months Plus, Supporting Eachother & Staying Positive :) new thread!!

Oh Vic I feel your pain with google and boredom...you should try night where I work! Tbh I havn't massively looked into waiting lists etc for our area because fertility treatment is not something I personally believe should be available on the NHS (please don't kill me - I don't blame anyone for taking it!!) and so dh and I have agreed we will prob go private if/when it comes to it. All I can say on the cost front is if you start saving now you'll either have a chunk to put towards extra cycles if you need it or a nice nest egg to buy your baby loads of nice things if you get lucky on the NHS postcode lottery!! It is shit that it's a lottery though...it should be the same for everyone. I think when I looked it was more like £5000-£6000 but it was only a quick nose. Surely there is more than one clinic near you?

Dh counselling is falling WAY outside NICE guidelines at the moment so understand how frustrating it is to be on the crap end of it.

Thanks for being great guys. I'm so glad I have you to turn to when feeling rubbish. I know I'm not the only person here who is going through all this crap, we are all in the same horrible boat. I just hope this boat stays afloat! And of course, reaches land at the end of this journey! Its just a bit of a rough sea at the moment.

Hugs to you all x

Afternoon Ladies,

Holly Google isnt very helpful with making any one feel better, maybe going private might be quicker.

Vicky I wish I could make you feel better and that I could tell you everything is going to be alright. Its incredibly hard but try and focus on the positives...you and you dh have each other, you have family and friends who love you, there is still a chance to get pregnant with ivf etc and there are a lot of positive stories about people that ivf has helped.
Its not over yet hun honestly, take it one day at a time and we are all here for you xxx

CD 13 today and im trying very hard not to get my hopes up that my bodies trying its best to ovulate. even though I have various ovulation symptoms

I hope everyone is doing ok, im stuck at work and can not wait to finish.

I've just found this website where you can find clinics and get info. link

apparently my clinic has no ivf waiting list....I don't believe that as they told me they are busy and understaffed! but at least it gives other info. like it says NHS will fund 4iui cycles, but ivf is patient dependent. I'm hoping that means as we are young and healthy well get more than one go but who knows!

Vic put in your postcode and see what clinics come up and see if they differ on number of goes.

Vic I know its hard but try and stay calm. while you are waiting for m33r here is my experience since referral so far...
we had call with 2nd SA results from Dr on 6th March. should told us it could take 4weeks to hear about referral. we got a call about 3 weeks later and were booked in for first app with snr nurse on 1st April. I was booked in for first ultrasound on 8th April. had to have another on 14th as I wasn't close enough to ovulating. if they had had an app I could have booked hsg for 3rd April but they were full. I couldn't book in for next cycle as we were on hol so I am currently waiting for AF (due today or tomorrow) to phone and book hsg for around 12th June. I've been told it will be an 8wk wait to see consultant after that.

no one has mentioned dhs results really, and they haven't mentioned what the ivf waiting list is like or how many goes we get. that sort of thing will be what is discussed at consultant appointment I assume.

word of warning though. when I got the call for the first app I was offered 3clinics in my county. its worth researching all the clinics to see which one is best/if any give you more goes. then you can be prepared when you get the call. you could ask Dr about it but from my experience they know very little beyond the referral. I hope that helps a little.

jesse glad you us went OK. and glad you had a nicer nurse than I did first time around!

I don't think its fair that there is a postcode lottery for treatment. It should be one thing country wide. I've spent 13 years working for the NHS in my city but now I'm just going to resent it. NICE guidelines say 3 tries, all Trusts should give 3 tries. NICE guidelines should be NICE laws.

Vic I am so sorry that you are struggling. I cannot comment on your individual trust, as each varies. But yes it may be one, 2 or 3 rounds of IVF/ICSI.
I think the best advice anyone could give you is to take each day at a time and each appointment at a time. Trying to think of this as a whole is soul destroying, and stressful and life seems so unfair.
My close family member who has been through all of this (2 DC) states that she always had her eyes on the prize. She had 4 rounds before her first gorgeous baby came along, but she felt determined not to give up hope. She had 2 nhs in her trust, then had to move privately and she "found the money".
Usually, once all the investigations that they deem necessary are out of the way, you get put on the ivf waiting list for your area. Mine is currently 2 years from when you get put on (but that is particularly bad). My family member only had to wait 8weeks from when she was put on x
Overall, huge variability, but like I said, take one appointment at a time
X

Good luck with your lap m33r.

Can I ask you more about fertility treatment please? When you get referred what happens and in what order? How long do things take? M33r, do you definitely know you are having ivf? What criteria did you have to have? How many cycles can you get on the nhs? From much Googling and it seems that my nhs centre only gives you one free cycle. I'm cacking myself. Looked up private and they do a special 'package deal' for £8,999 not including drugs! NOT including drugs! Oh my god! There is no way we can do that! So that's it. One shot at ivf and if it doesn't work, a lifetime of childlessness! I feel as if I'm falling slowly and painfully apart at the seams! I feel like hiding away from the world and I don't know how I'm even going through the motions of living at the moment. I'm due to go out for dinner with mates tonight. Mates that don't know. How am I meant to laugh and joke and enjoy myself when I'm dying inside. I'm thinking of canceling.

I'm ok when I'm at work, but I'm off work today as I've hurt my hand gardening at the weekend. Have the doctors this afternoon about my hand. Hopfully I can go back to work tomorrow so I don't have to sit in front of the tv googling infertility. Got our 'proper' GP appointment Friday with dh. Calling it D day. Hope I don't break down there. Need to keep my head. Must stay strong!

It's a funny one - hoping there is something wrong that can be 'fixed' but at the same time not wanting ther to be anything wrong jesse Hope you get some answers/reassurance from the results.

Good luck with the lap m33r

Having seen the GP on Tuesday last week to get the fc referral done, received a form to complete with letter saying apt should be 12 weeks from when they receive the form back. Will post tomorrow. I am considering a private internal scan as I am convinced my extremely light AF post mc#2 are the issue. I have freaked myself out consulting dr google and not sure if I can face a 12 week wait - I will be over 40 by then....

Thank you m33r. Massive luck for the laparoscopy. Keep us posted and have a few treats planned for after xxx

Dildo cam update.
I went alone to this appointment at a private fertility clinic as it was for blood test (AMH) and internal Ultrasound scan.
The scan seemed to go well, she talked me through the whole thing. Uterus size and lining normal, and it is tippin forward (most people's do), no fibroids or polyps. Both ovaries were seen, normal size with follicles ripening at the rate they should. Right ovary "dominant" ie bigger and probably ovulate more from that size (apparently normal). She could not see the corpus luteum ( where my last egg was ovulated from) but not sure if this is bad.

I cried with the nurse. She was so lovely. At the part when she advised our combined results would be posted to us by a week tomorrow (mr Jesse doing sample there on Thursday), I told her how scared I was by the whole process and she held my hand and told me to let them do the worrying. Amazing.

In the meantime I am still spotting. So annoying. I am convinced there must be something wrong but need to wait until consultant appointment.
Must be more positive!

Oh blue must be so hard :-(

Hope this afternoon was ok Jesse let us know how you get on

we have booked a joint appointment for next mon to discuss dh sa with gp and get my blood results. AF due any day now oh joy!!! Hope everyone had a great weekend xx

Afternoon Ladies,

Sorry ive been quiet I am still reading every day just feeling a bit blah at the moment.

Jesse Good luck with today im sure you will be okay!!

May Why is it so hard for them to get blood it doesnt sound good they couldnt find my finger pulse once maybe im dead and that why i cant get pg lol fx for the results.

CD 12 here massive migraine and water cm, Ovulation? or am I getting my hopes up even though ive been told im not ovulating grrrr.

Good luck jesse.

Just back from another traumatic blood test. This time I ended up at the hospital as I'm so difficult to get blood from!

Still that's day 1 and 21 and chlamydia tests sorted now so fingers crossed the results are at least conclusive one way or another. ..I don't know how many more times I can go through this!

I do how that the thread being so quiet is a reflection of everyone being so positive and relaxed.

X

Morning ladies,
Jesse you will be fine, fx and let us know how you get on xxxx

Have my internal scan and AMH blood test this afternoon. Feeling quite scared.

Thanks for all of your answers to my question. Interesting to see whether or not you've told close family members about the next step, quite relieved I'm not the only one keeping things quiet.

Also, sorry to break the majority opinion but my DH has a moderate to low sex drive but has had good sperm analysis. Although he probably does masturbate every other day which he finds as a 'release to stress' but feels under pressure to perform for me! I can't win.

Oh well, can't wait for AF to bugger off ready for the next round,bring it on!!!!

Blueberry - I want you to read the last paragraph of your last post when you are holding your first baby. You will get there, it just might take some time.
Can you tell I have had a wine?
Feeling sentimental.....

Afternoon Ladies,

Non I didnt tell any one but my brother and my best friend until last week when I told my mum, I couldnt handle the when are you going to give me grandchildren conversations every week. but its also nice to get a mum hug when I need one. Although now shes being quite obsessive and has decided to make sure I have every crystal/stone that might help with fertility bless her.

Jesse ouch thats a lot of money but worth it, im going to try the nhs first and see how they do.

Lil My dp goes through phases with his sex drive sometimes he wont leave me alone and other times he doesnt want anything but were usually fx pretty good at dtd a few times a week normally more now we ttc

Af has finally buggered off for me but feeling a bit lost this month, concentrating on trying to loose weight incase the gynae tell me im to fat to help which I expect they will been trying for a baby for so long now to be told im not ovulating makes me feel like I shouldnt be bothering to obsess.

I am so physically and mentally tired at the moment im barely functioning just wish that sometimes things went right.