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TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

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Parsley2506 · 24/03/2014 12:38

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

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LaceyLee · 03/04/2014 11:15

Cakes and penguin I have my fingers crossed for both of you that everything will be ok Thanks

Sebs that's terrible and does put things in perspective. I hope her and her family will be ok.

I have got myself all excited by a huge temp rise at 10 dpo. However, I did have a glass or two of wine last night which can raise bbt so i need to get over it. I will poas tmrw, but ultimately I'll be happy if my lp lengthens. It's already one day more than last time so going in right direction. Anyone else planning to poas tmrw?

CakesALot · 03/04/2014 10:28

It's very tempting broody! She certainly needs some training! I wanted to slap that 'aww poor you' look off her face by the end!

broodylicious · 03/04/2014 10:26

cakes that is absolutely appalling of your GP! I started a thread a few weeks back of ridiculously unhelpful things people say when they find out you've mc and it's shocking what some people say. I know most people don't understand the pain emotionally and just don't know what to say so they say something, anything, that they think could be reassuring or kind without understanding how it can be upsetting. A GP should know much better though. You know me, I'd have put a complaint in already!

Penguin13 · 03/04/2014 10:10

Cakes I am Shock at your GP. How about acknowledging your very real fears and offering some comfort or understanding? Really sorry you're spotting and that you had to deal with that GP into the bargain. It may be nothing but I know how scary it must be.

Had a bit of a melt-down this morning. My symptoms are declining in an all too familiar way. Sore boobs, faintness, aversion to even decaf coffee all gone. Trying not to give up hope but feel like history may be repeating itself Sad

CakesALot · 03/04/2014 09:55

Hi ladies,

Sebs, how very very sad. I hope she comes through it all ok.

Broody, glad the epu were reassuring. It does sound scary so you're entitled to a bit of a freak out! But good to know they thought it was a 'normal' thing whatever normal is

I'm still hanging in there at the moment, but I have had some spotting the last day or so so feeling a little uneasy, as I had this last time, although a few weeks further on than I (probably) am now. Fx it's just a breakthrough bleed. Saw the GP yesterday who said it was too early in the pregnancy to refer me to EPU and told me to wait at least 2 more weeks. She also uttered the dreaded line "if you do miscarry again, at least you know you can get pregnant". She wasn't my usual GP and I won't be going back to her, she didnt seem very clued up on MCs and was far too chipper for my liking!

Sal1977 · 03/04/2014 09:38

Sebs that's awful! And probably one of my biggest fears. Give me 5 x 6 weekers over 1 x 5 monther. The poor girl. Sending kind thoughts her and your way.

Nice big temp rise here meaning a lovely textbook day14 ovulation. My god it's painful this month. I find OV pain worse than AF pain sometimes. Does anyone else? In my little mind I like to think its my ovaries machine gunning a couple of massive healthy eggs down the shoot in an attempt to face plant into some swimmers!

I know it only takes one but I feel like it crept up a couple of days early this cycle so we've managed 3 bonks in the 4 days before and on OV day. Will try and crack another one out tonight as I still feel like I'm laying another egg with these sharp pains!!

broodylicious · 03/04/2014 09:15

Just spoke to epu. Lovely nurse spoke to me and was reassuring. She said it is very likely the start of AF because it's been five weeks and that's quite a normal timescale after a natural mc. I have got some cramping so maybe tallies with that theory. She said to keep an eye on the bleeding - it's quite light now, just a little streak in the middle of the pad - and if it's very heavy or I'm in a lot of pain, call back.

Omg I hate this. I'm defo not going to be ttc for a while now, this is just too much. Lord only knows how you ladies who have had more than one of these bastard mc have the strength to carry on is beyond me.

Carly6971 · 03/04/2014 09:12

broody I second everyone else! I would get checked just for peace of mind :)

penguin hello :) how are you and your bean? Hope all is plodding along nicely :)

As for me today's a new day and things seem a little brighter :) DH seems in a better mood and I think it's just a case of going through a rough patch, which is probably made to seem worse with all this with the mc, I think I just need to accept that he isn't one of life's talkers and I know he would do anything to have our baby back just as much as I would , but doesn't feel upset daily about it like I do. He is away for a few days from Sunday and I am on Easter hols so I think a bit of a break and some me time will do us both the world of good :)

healthyhippo · 03/04/2014 08:42

Thanks,
Have GP appointment tomorrow. Will ask for a referral probably. I don't think things have been right since the first miscarriage last September. After that one I was scanned and told it had completed and then passed a huge clot a month later with a massive flood of bleeding bit like broody. Have been scanned this time and told its all fine but still bleeding and I really think something has been missed.

Penguin13 · 03/04/2014 08:35

Hi all been lurking but not posting lately.

Broody that must have been scary to wake up to. I would definitely go back to hospital and get checked out. Hope you are seen quickly.

Sebs what awful news. So sorry for her loss Sad.

Seasides · 03/04/2014 08:32

What a terribly sad story sebs, I hope your mum's right and she recovers emotionally and physically as quickly as anyone could.

I echo the others broody, I'd call the EPU.

carly, I'm so sorry your relationship is rocky as well as all the TTC crap you're dealing with. If you are starting to question the relationship, maybe you should talk to him about some sort of joint counselling? I know it seems a drastic step, but it might be worth a mediator if it's coming to that.

I know it's silly but I had one of those horrible, hyper-realistic dreams last night that I had cancer. I woke up with a strong recognition that it could all be so much worse.

TeaRex · 03/04/2014 07:32

broody I'd get myself checked out too, call the epu this morning and ask them what's best (or your doctors if they're good)
hippo I'd also be getting checked out if I'd been bleeding as long as you.
I hope both you ladies get seen quickly and have your minds put at ease a bit

sebs awful news :( I too hope she's able to get through this as best as a person can :( can't imagine how heart broken she must be

GailLondon · 03/04/2014 07:19

Oh broody I think I honestly would go see someone. I've been having the on off bleeding like you but no big blood clots like that.
You must be so frustrated not knowing what's going on all the time

broodylicious · 03/04/2014 06:58

Btw it's five weeks today since my mc (and incidentally our four year wedding anniversary!)

broodylicious · 03/04/2014 06:57

HELP! I haven't bled for a few days but woke up about half an hour ago, thinking I'd peed myself - got out of bed to see a faint but large blood puddle on sheet/mattress then felt that oh so common gush. Rushed to the loo and have passed blood clots the size of two palms!!! WTAF is going on? Would you be going back to hospital? HmmConfused

BobaFetaCheese · 02/04/2014 23:32

Seb, so sorry for her loss. Awful news.

Carly, my DH hasn't kept track of my pregnancies so was slightly shocked when I reminded him how many times it's been!

Hippo, the only mc I've charted (my7wk one); taking day one of bleeding as CD1, I stopped bleeding CD10 & ov-ed CD22, bfp cd31. No help at all but fingers crossed GP has answers, is it possible at some point the bleeding has become your period?

Otters, my period started as I was getting out of the bath, ready for sex, on the first night of honeymoon.

Carly6971 · 02/04/2014 23:01

Parsley I don't feel I am placing expectations on him, I feel as though he doesn't care. He never wants to talk about it and just gives me one word answers in that 'oh here she goes again' tone if I ever get upset or talk about. I feel so isolated and I just wanna be over this, but instead I now feel like I am loosing my relationship!

Sebs how awful, there Apis always a story sadder than our own isn't there? I really hope your friend comes through the other side and not only her physical but her emotional recovery is as easy as it can be...why do all these bad things happen to good people? I really don't understand xx

sebsmummy1 · 02/04/2014 22:43

I've just had some really horrible news that has had me bawling my eyes out. My Mums ex colleague has just lost her baby and I am so devastated for her.

I used to ferry them about years ago so feel as though I know her if that makes sense and when I found out her and her husband were expecting I was over the moon for them as she has had a difficult time with her family and childhood and deserved some happiness. Unfortunately in the fifth month of her pregnancy she developed pre eclampsia and then eclampsia, she nearly lost her own life, needed a complete blood transfusion and her son was born by c section and obviously very premature.

There were so many photos on Facebook and updates and I genuinely thought he would make it. I found out today he died three days ago after seeing a memorial post regarding his funeral. That poor poor girl, she is still in hospital recovering herself and to now go through this, I am so so upset for her and just cannot believe how totally heart breaking TTC and pregnancy is, let alone then having a healthy baby and all the worry that goes with that.

My Mum thinks she will cope and she is very stoical by nature and a pragmatist. I just wonder if she is operating on autopilot currently and as the feelings of numbness subside the rawness will appear. I pray I am wrong and most normal people aren't as emotional as me.

I guess it's one of those situations that put my 6 week loss into perspective. I know comparisons are futile but I really feel as though I should just STFU and recognise just how fortunate I am.

Parsley2506 · 02/04/2014 22:04

carly maybe he just finds it hard to talk about? I know my DH doesn't really like talking about it, it's not that he doesn't feel the loss or care about what happened, he just prefers to 'get on with it' IYSWIM. I think it's natural that we feel the loss more acutely, and we can't expect our partners to feel it quite the same. As long as he's supporting you and letting you talk and not trying to stop your natural reactions to all the shit that goes on after MC that's the main thing. You can't really tell someone how to grieve or place expectations on them to that effect.

sebs thanks for the sanity check. I might try temping next cycle. I've basically written this one off already. If I am OV now then the egg is going to be a shitter after only 10 days, surely.

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Carly6971 · 02/04/2014 21:54

Does anyone else's husbands act as though their mc/pregnancy never happened? I am really finding it difficult how mine behaves! No matter how much I tell him how angry it makes me he swears he is upset by it and that he listens to me, but if I ever mention it I get off the cuff one word answers which infuriate me...I need to talk about it at times, and I certainly can not forget it. It's getting to the point where I can't stand to be around him! This is so shit I feel like my whole world is crashing down around me this year and that it's just gonna be me and the dog by the end of the year! Arghhhhhh!!

sebsmummy1 · 02/04/2014 20:51

So TITH one completed in the fertile window. I am currently waiting for 15 mins to get up as I hear it does actually have a positive impact with conception.

I'm hoping my CBFM might give me a high tomorrow as all these lows are making me feel uneasy even though my cm is pretty fertile.

I have given myself quite a good talking to these last few days and I think I've made my peace with having an only child. I think if I hadn't tried I would have always felt a bit guilty, but if it doesn't happen for us I can genuinely tell him as he gets older that we tried but unfortunately it didn't work out. Same goes with DPs Mum who is desperate for me to have another. If you give it everything you've got and it doesn't work out what else can you do? Sometimes you can't have everything.

sebsmummy1 · 02/04/2014 20:46

Parsley, in my experience if you're using CBFM in the morning it catches the tail end of your surge, do if it was right you would have got a pos opk last night/evening.

I am sure you can get false positives, I know Penguin got one last month and knew because her temps didn't go up. She then kept testing and surged later in the month and got her BFP.

Problem with the CBFM is that once you get your peak it goes onto automatic pilot, it will give you another peak tomorrow and then a high then stop asking for sticks.

I don't know if you temp but it's a good idea to do so to check you have ovulated. If your temps don't tally I would suggest you keep doing opks in the afternoon/evening. Don't trust your CBFM implicitly, it is fallible.

EnglishGirlAbroad · 02/04/2014 20:44

Parsley... I've decided the cbfm is a massive arse! A money making scam, that takes advantage of vulberable desperate women! Rant over! Obviously hope you do get a positive on both too!!

Parsley2506 · 02/04/2014 20:25

hippo I'd definitely get your EPU/GP to check that out. While there's sadly no such thing as 'normal' when it comes to MC, bleeding over 6 weeks is definitely worth investigating. So sorry you lost your baby Thanks

So, I did an IC OPK when I got in tonight at about 7pm. Not. A. Dickiebird. Not even a squinter. Hmm
I know testing this late in the day is not ideal but I am now even more confused. Maybe my CBFM is just confused/lying to me? I am going to do another IC OPK at work tomorrow lunchtime (which means sneaking my pee pot to the loos!). If my CBFM is telling the truth there should be a big fat second line, right? Right?!?! Confused

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tannyLoo · 02/04/2014 20:09

I echo Office, it sounds horrible and definitely ought get it checked. You can get a scan to check you're all clear.

I hope you get some resolution soon.