TTC After MC: The home of hopeful nipples, ovulation eyes and the most determined Mummawannabees around. Chin up, tits out!

Great news to start the week Penguin!

hippo I'm sorry your tests showed some problems, but hopefully you can get it sorted and get back to ttc soon. tanny I'm glad you imagined the line yesterday and can also get your testing under way now!

sebs before my mc I was getting lots of cramps in the 2ww as well, I was wondering if mine might be endometriosis as I read that can be one of the symptoms.

Sorry you had a row with your DH zahazie, hopefully you can make up tonight. It's difficult not to snap sometimes isn't it when you're under so much emotional stress.

I'm getting really desperate to poas or even for AF to arrive. I hate hate hate the 2ww!

Really heartwarming news penguin, the future is bright

Fab news penguin it's amazing seeing that tiny little bean all comfy inside you isn't it? Xxx

Awwww that's the most FANTASTIC news Penguin. Made up for you darling xxxxx

Hi everyone. Just had my scan (6 wk 3 days) and I am amazed and happy to report that despite my symptoms suddenly dropping off over a week ago, there was our little embryo and a tiny little heartbeat flickering away. I know it's super early days so anything could happen but today I am pregnant.

thanks for your encouragement sebs, english and office!
office, I'll think you're definitely right in saying that part of it is preparing ourselves mentally for disappointment.

Ah Office I'm glad it helped. I read it and just thought it was hugely informative and did answer so many of those questions we all have, particularly during the 2ww. I'll post it again for anyone that didn't see it first time.

www.amandabears.com/faq.html

Dows anyone else get random cramping in the second week of the 2ww? I used to get cramping the day before AF only. But now I seem to get it at 7/8/9 dpo. I know it's not a good sign re. pregnancy unfortunately. Just wonder what causes it so far away from AF?

Morning ladies!
CD11, still 'low' on cbfm. Carly, I had a cycle of highs from cd15-26 last cycle. Never got a peak. I didnt end up ovulating. Hope you get your peak soon, you could just be ovulating late.

Sebs when i got my bfp i had a dip at 9dpo, slight recovery at 10dpo and then a massive shoot up at 11dpo. You're not out yet. fx for you.

Zah hope you sort things out with dp. I think ttc only exacerbates things when you're rowing with dp, I know I am defintely more sensitive at the moment. I've read on dr google that a dip at 5dpo is a because of an increase in eostrogen before progesterone creeps high enough, and 9dpo could be implantation - fx for you too

Morning, gang. Sebs thank you for posting that link at the weekend about ttc and the 2ww and symptom spotting etc, it answered a lot of my "but why" questions. Even if it's just to say, sometimes shit happens and it doesn't mean that you aren't normal, eg annovulatory cycles etc.
Tanny have a "congrats on the BFN because it means you can go forward with testing and treatment REALLY SOON!" card. One of the few times a BFN is welcomed!
Sorry Zahazie but remember it's not over until the bitch shows up. I think we all try to prepare ourselves mentally for the disappointment but it doesn't make it any easier.

Fingers crossed I have come out of the other side of my wtf cycle and wtaf endlessly long period. Celebrated by jumping on dh last night, he was trying to watch Endeavour but luckily I was more interesting We are trying the SMEP plan this month (I say we, actually dh is blissfully unaware of this!) so last night was the first attempt. I will be scheduling another session tomorrow in the build up to what will hopefully be ovulation sometime towards the end of the week or at the weekend. Luckily I'm off work this week so I'll have plenty of energy - poor dh though. He'll just have to lie there and think of England.

Bless you. I think it's just a stressful time and you are probably reacting differently because you have your mind on TTC. I know that there were times over the weekend when I was totally distracted and OH knew exactly what I was thinking about. It will be good to just get the next few days out the way and move on. The 2ww is always the worst time of the month for me.

The row was about everything and nothing at the same time - I felt criticized and I got upset. DP is not good when I get upset and cannot see that I want to be comforted plus he's really bad at saying sorry. The whole thing just escalated....
It's difficult coz if AF arrives, I know that I will be really upset over that.

Zah same here. Big temp drop on 8dpo, recovered by only 0.04 this morning. Not below cover line yet but not far off. No cm at all. If today produces some cm there is hope (I had creamy cm in my underwear at 9dpo on my last BFP cycle). If not then I need to accept this cycle is a bust.

What did you have a massive row over?

sebs, just say that you also had a dip in temperature. Not sure what it's supposed to mean, but I now have had two: 5DPO and 9DPO, so not very good sign (although both are just above the coverline)

Feeling really

All of my pretend symptoms have disappeared, had a huge temperature drop this morning, and I fear that AF is just round the corner. I have been trying to prepare myself for this, but I think I might have a mini meltdown when AF finally does show.

On top of all of that, DP and I had a huge row yesterday, and we're not even speaking now.

Sorry for the me me me post...

Hope you are all having a better Monday than me!

Sorry you have been suffering broody my first period after mc was horrendous too! but keep soiled ring on it will pass (hugs).

tanny glad you got the result you wanted this am.

As for me I am stressing the hell out! Still on low on my cbfm on cd 20!!!! I think I am broke :( x

No line!

I am a complete dwonk.

aaahh sorry for ladies who got AF. (bitch bitch bitch) It really does knock you for 6 and make you not want to carry on, but after a few days, you'll be back to been positive, i promise, the love and hope in your heart is too much to give up on, all that love/hope and dreaming you want to give toa tiny person, so you wont give up.

huge hugs, the pain is all to unbearable.

Tanny, wow - you've been thru so much, hope you get answers soon. huge hugs.

Im CD12 - I got a flashing smiley on my clearblue thing, the test stick that i ejected after is the first positive opk ive ever had. so time to jump on oh tonight! (still need to get my "peak" on the monitor tho before i ovulate yet) x

OH THE JOYS, i hate Mondays. x

Broody I'm sorry you're having such a rubbish time. Sounds like a pretty awful wtf cycle. Hope it eases off soon.

Hope that your squinter is not a real line Tanny You've been through so much already it's definitely time for you to get a proper diagnosis and treatment.

Sebs are you still above the coverline? I had a couple of biggish dips on my BFP cycle although both above the coverline. Hope it turns out to be implantation or an anomaly.

Oh well, I'll be out for a bit...TSH has come back at 5.78 so looks like I'll be a while getting things diagnosed and stabilised. Guessing Hashimotos and possibly the reason for my mcs :(

Tanny, really hope it is just Line Eye. You're so close to diagnosis, i'd hate for you to suffer again.
Broody, hope you're feeling better soon. Your cycles will stabilise themselves. I'm sure the next one will be back to normal. But obviously i hope you get a bfp next cycle!!
Sebs - it could be implantation dip?? Just because you've implanted earlier before doesn't mean you won't implant later this time. Fx your temp rises again tomorrow.

No news here.....twiddles thumbs.

Thank you for the talking to! I've had another look and not even a real evap, so I think it was just a panicy moment

Office, yes, to be this close to some positive ways forward feels massive.

Tanny it sounds like the science says it was probably a case of line eye, so cling onto that, and good luck with getting a definitive solution to your mc issues. It's still a long path but it seems you are agonisingly close to getting there.

Broody - honestly you are nearly there now. I can remember ranting on here as I was so so sick of blood and clots and cramps, it was driving me insane. Directly I got to the end of my first AF (and it lasted 8 days) I passed some clots and it finally stopped, I was back to regular cycles and bleeding again. It sounds like you are so close to normality again, I promise you directly the bleeding stops you will feel better again.

Tanny, I think at 12dpo you would have a pretty good line, not a squinter. I guess it depends on the sensitivity of the test but I always had a squinter around 9/10 dpo but a good line by 12/13dpo. Hope you get the result you want xx

Well I am 8 dpo. Temp nosedived today and nothing happening on crotch watch. I think I'm out, will find out soon at least.

Sorry, I meant to say that APS is a clotting disorder.

No problem with being blunt or nosey. I've now had 5 mcs after 2 healthy pgs. After blood tests, the only anomaly was in an antibody test. I would need to have the test repeated in 3 months to confirm. When I got this result I was already pg again and went to epac. It looked like I was likely to lose it but was prescribed heparin on the basis of one blood test. I mcd a week later, but it felt different, iykwim.

I am due to have a second blood test next week to confirm that I have a autoimmune disorder like antiphosphilid syndrome. This would be the best prognosis for future pgs but not if I am pg now.

The stats for APS are a bit bald. Without treatment there's a 95% chance of mc. This drops to 60% when taking baby aspirin and 25% with heparin and aspirin.

I mc early after a slow start, so would ideally need to be taking heparin and aspirin from ov.

We used condoms before and during ov and then didn't from about a week after.

I am going to my gp tomorrow anyway. I'll do another test in the morning and take it from there. I really want it to be line eye, as I'm so close to an answer and a plan.