FAO - ShouldknowbyFriday

Hmmm. I may have got the estradiol reading wrong and don't have time to check it. I know though that it was much higher than they wanted but they thought my age was a barrier to too many eggs being fertilised.

Evans, so you have taken Clomid this month! Good! Do ask Dr R for your results and make a note of them so we can compare. I think 7 would be too many follicles at the egg releasing stage as I had on the day of my fsh jab to release the eggs on L 19mm, 2x 12-14 and on R 16mm so the 19mm and 16mm must have fertilised as well as one of the 12-14mm which would have grown by the time it was released 36hrs later. They took an estradiol reading on the same day to check levels and were hoping for a 2000 level. They called me in the evening to say it was if I remember correctly 3750 which was obviously high but the nurse checked with the dr and he said at my age it was unlikely that more than two would fertilise! Hah! Had he said it was too high they would have advised not having timed intercourse. With clomid the first cycle I got 2 ripe follicles and that was the cycle I became preg. After that I mostly had 1 good sized follicle and smaller ones I think. When I saw Paul Serhal for one of the scans and asked him if the clomid didn't work what were my options and he said the injectible because they produce more follicles and they did for me. He said the risk though was a multiple pregnancy which could result in a premature birth and that is why they like to start off with clomid. If you look at the clomid thread you will see all my follicle sizes if you are interested but I didn't have the number of resting follicles that you have. You are off to a good start. I have also had two early miscarriages one in Sept 04 and one in March this year and this cycle was my most hectic as very busy at the office/socially. Have you still kept off the caffeine? I also took Bioforce Milk Thistle tincture to cleanse my liver which I don't know if I have mentioned.

I am really excited about your cycle and am keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Thanks evans, nothing to report, which hopefully is a good sign. Will be away next week to see family (who have no knowledge of latest try)unfortunatley DH has to work away will try to get my hands on a computer to update you all there.

SNBF does make a good point about working during the 2 weeks definitely went faster last time. Evans Would your online manager be sympathetic to last minute appointments? Don't know how active/stressful your job is but mine can be rather confrontational at times and my manager was very flexible.

Oh! Still not time to relax yet, my ob said I could miscarry up to 16wks due to the dead tissue and the Prof said 2 weeks so if he is right I have another week to go and if ob right another 3.

Evans, 3 and 4 follicles is fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!! I had only 2 on each side. What were your blood test results out of interest? I am really hopeful for you. Why do you need 2 weeks off? I know its stressful but 7 follicles is really really good. I understand why he has suggested clomid and then you will have the fsh injection to release the eggs when they feel it is the right time. Can you say to your supervisor that you will have say 4 medical appointments and need to travel to London on those days and that you will work the others? If you take 2weeks off you will have alot of time on your hands and you will probably have your scans and treatments in 4 appts. Am really interested to know your blood results. And why consider a donor egg? If you have that number of follicles and clomid doesn't work, the fsh injections are stronger and if they work for you you will then have your own egg producing a baby. I am really happy to read there were 7 follicles!!!!! Many more than I ever had!!!!!!! Such good news. Just re-read your post. Why can't you do this next week but getting early train from Bristol or coach? You can make it happen. Think about the number of appts I had and acupuncture and reflexology. Boring and tedious but I got there in the end.

IVI? ment to say IVF, brain gone!

Evans, pleased to hear there was no cyst. All the best for next week. As for work, if you broke your leg tomorrow they would manage wouldn't they, but I do understand having worked whilst doing my first IVI its not easy especially when people are relying on you.

SNBF congratulations on the results. On second thoughts I think I've caught a touch of man flu off DH which would explain the shivering and aching limbs which started last night. On a positive note only 7 days to go.

Sleepless, I don't know if it's possible after one week for a normal pregnancy, ie unassisted, but the fact that your fertilised eggs did not have to travel down the fallopian tube and implant themselves, which can take 7-10 days depending on which book you read, maybe the nausea starts earlier with your method as your eggs are implanted full stop. My nausea started quickly on day 29 and I found out on day 28. Also on day 27 I noticed a darkening of various body areas and my sense of smell was heightened. So you may be pregnant! Fingers crossed and do post as soon as you know.

I had my cvs results through yesterday and all is okay. They even test for spina bifida now.

I feel yuk a bit like just before AF arrives but alot more nausesa. Does anyone think its possible to get morning sickness after 1 week? I'm sure it didn't appear to 5 weeks last time but then again i had mild OHSS so felt awful anyway.

Hi Evans, sorry to confuse. When I mean both procedures I meant 2 cvs and 1 reduction. I am just so pleased its over as it wasn't pleasant although I was surprisingly calm about it. The sickness has dramatically reduced and dh has started telling everyone that I am preg with twins and I am getting lots of calls from people to congratulate me. It feels a bit premature as I can still miscarry and when I said 2ww, the Prof said that was a good time frame. Only 11 days to go.

I hope you don't have a cyst on your ovary but if you do the whatever we both took before will sort it out. You also said that makes you/one more fertile. Fingers crossed. Hope you spend a romantic evening in London. Do you need any restaurant recommendations?

Evans good luck with your trip to London. I also had an ovarian cyst appear during my recent treatment, fortunatley they were able to pop it, resulting in a week delay in implantation. Keeping everything crossed for you x

Both procedures done successfully so pleased its all over. I now have a 2ww!

Good luck Sleepless, thinking about you in your 2ww. FIngers and everything else crossed.

Evans, I had that dull ache on my birthday and DH away all of that weekend and the ache put me in such a foul mood which I had to hide from my children and then a few days later I found out I was preg. Try to keep your spirits up. I am thinking about you.

Me: went for nuchal scan. As there are 3 no point in analysing blood as it would be inaccurate. Very detailed scan which took an hour to do. They have nuchal measurements of 1.1mm, 1.0mm and 1.3mm and everything okay except no 3 has a leaking heart valve which is a marker for downs. Nos 1 and 2 have a risk of 1 in 694 based on my age and the fact that bloods are not worth testing and no 3 has a 1 in 10 chance. Saw the Proff after the scan who gave me the stats. He said that any woman carrying triplets has a 5% chance of miscarrying and further into the pregnancy the percentage is reduced. An embryo reduction adds a 4% risk to the 5% as dead tissue is then present which is absorbed into the placenta and I will know after a few weeks if the pregnancy is going to continue. The cvs adds only 1% risk for both babies so the total is 10% chance of miscarrying. I definitely want to reduce whether no 3 has a leaking heart valve or not and I am very happy that he has stated the 1% risk of the cvs as this is going to reassure me knowing that everything is okay. I am going to Kings tomorrow for a 'needle attack' as he called it and have bought my rescue remedy to get through it. I feel much more upbeat as my ob was nervous about so many needles and I wondered if I would have the cvs or not. As I am having it, all being well and the preg continues, I shall be able to enjoy (as much as I can taking into account the mammouth proportions I shall reach) the rest of the preg.

Re: sickness, feeling much better. Have worked out to have a good breakfast and then salad/veg in the evening. Finally it has subsided a little.

Will post tomorrow. Cheer up Evans. Gotta keep going. Oh! Did you watch the IVF programme last night. I started to then fell asleep. I saw that they filmed the ACU entrance and wondered if they showed any of the doctors there?

Transfer went well. First 2 embryos used (4 cell and 3 cell, 1 cell fell off the 3 so here's hoping it wasn't needed!) 3 left in the freezer. Very relieved, DH rather nervous

Sleepless, that's fabulous. I hope the drefrosting goes well too. Keep updating us.

SNBF, thanks bloods okay just hope the defrosting goes as smoothly, will keep you updated. I suppose you could always buy a minibus

Evans, triplets is out of the question. I have 2 pre-schoolers and so 5 would just be so difficult in terms of care and logistics, I mean, what car would I buy??? Couldn't work out PMA so thanks for that. This whole journey is very difficult but you just have to keep going. Thats the deal. I also thought some wine and bd'ing was all it took esp after having 2 so easily and after 18mths I realised the contrary. It was last Nov that I told my ob and his wife that in the coming april it would be 2 years of trying and that is when he told me about the ACU. I had my cons in Dec and then blood tests in Jan and now look at me. It can work!!!!

Sleepless, good luck for Monday, I hope the bloods come back right for transfer on Tuesday. How exciting!