Fab Forty-Plus! Where are the BFPs...

Sorry to hear AF got gift grizzer...

jass might have missed it but why are you going gluten/diary/wine free?general health kick or something specific? I have to say I couldn't be doing without a glass of wine -one of life's great pleasures! (* disclaimer - I would obviously be very happy to forgo such pleasure for a pregnancy that led to a baby)

jbrd how are you doing? Not worrying too much I hope?.

Any news morien??????

Good luck with this cycle mumlah may this one be your lucky one.

Welcome basia - May your stay be short!

Sorry, fat thumbs & small phone!
..... Next month I meant to say.
jass why are you cutting these things out? I've wondered if dairy is an issue for me. I don't think the odd glass of wine does any harm, don't deprive yourself too much or you'll resent it x

Well, AF showed right on time! I knew it in my heart but have to say all the build up felt nothing like. I'm going to make a note of the symptoms I had so I know not to get my hopes up next k

feeling damp (watery discharge) is also pregnancy symptom, grizzer! (Just teasing :-)))))
do that test, of course, gives the peace of mind atleast if not bfp.

I am waiting for ov. am also gluten-free and milk free, and sugar free. It is OK but I can not be red-wine-free at the same time....have to figure out how to be low carb and not crave wine.....any tips?

Aaahhhh green don't do this to me!! I'm sitting here, watching part 2 of the 'births, deaths & marriages' where I cried all through part 1 (not crying yet) thinking, 'is that AF twinge? I'm sure it's AF, might not be AF, am I feeling damp, might be bleeding, no I'm not bleeding....' & on it goes!!!! Will be testing in the morning & then AF will arrive for sure x

Grizzer with both my pregnancies I had twinging in my right side of my groin - a bit like ovulation pain. Was the first sign I was up the duff....

Just saying .......

Thanks Jass, what a lovely way to describe our peeing on sticks!! Still no spotting but weird feelings in abdomen. I think it means I may not get AF tomorrow but it will come in the next day or so. Last night had discomfort in right groin area, very similar to ovulation. I've dismissed this for the last few months as me only just noticing it because I'm becoming more aware of when I ovulate but now I've decided I never noticed it before because I've never had it before. When AF shows I'm going to get proactive and book a private appointment for a scan & the dye thingy. I might still test tomorrow so that I can stop wondering even though I already know the answer. Thank you all for putting up with pre AF monthly hope madness followed by the gloom of reality!!

Hello Ladies, I found you ! Nothing exciting to report. Seem to be having a long cycle this month, didn't ovulate till cd22. So I just want to get it over with and start a brand new cycle. Poor dh isn't going to know whats hit him, I am determined this month! Good luck ladies for this month too!

Basia welcome and good luck, Sands, congratulations and have an easy pregnancy!

grizzer, opk will not tell you a thing even if it had a line. It may have a line from luteinizing hormone at the end of the cycle, probably not a strong one, but a line is possible. OPKs do pick up hcg though, so if you had a line you could see whether hpt has one too. With opk totally clean i would wait a couple of days for hpt as well, in case it is just too early to test.
i use opks to see where the line is going, but only after hpt has confirmed it is really a hcg line. But i also know that at the end of the cycle my opk-s are totally clean, no LH hormones visible. Not everybody is like that. The opk will aleays be positive for pregnant women, as it do not differentiate between LH and hcg hormones. They are similar, like identical flowers, but one has a stem as well and the other not. so, opk picks up the flower (both of them), but hpt only the stem - see why hpt is positive only with hcg, but opk with the two different hormones?

Oops meant to say 'congratulations' but dd is trying to hide a torch under my legs & I accidentally pressed send!!

Jbrd I have a 31 day cycle. Tomorrow is day 30. Ov was 26th or 27th jan so I'm so about 14dpo. I'll test tomorrow. Feel some twinges which still don't feel like normal AF but probably is.
Work got a bit busier so I didn't obsess too much. Speaking of planning a holiday though - has anyone been to Disneyland Paris? Thinking of taking dd for a few days in July.
Welcome Basia this thread will keep you sane throughout TTC (I know I don't sound sane at the moment but I normally am!!) hope you're journey is short.
sand how pg are you? C

Ladies, help me get a control of myself! I'm 2 days from af. I now have no cramps although I do have the odd sensation but doesn't feel like af. No spotting & I usually spot for a few days beforehand (& try and tell myself it's implantation but it never is!).
It's ridiculous when I still have 2 days to go as all of these things have plenty of time to rear their ugly heads but I'm really getting my hopes up, to the point where I can't concentrate on anything at work & all I want to do is go to bed and wake up on Wednesday!
I used an opk this morning, which is a bit stupid really because I have no idea what I'm looking for. I had no second line. Is that good or bad? I have some vague memory of doing this before and having slight second line when af was due.
With dd I didn't have a positive test until I was a week late so I'm trying to hold out until at least Wednesday.
I've just had a very small coffee and am now beating myself up over it!!
I know I am setting myself up for the biggest fall but I just can't help it. I've convinced myself I'm pregnant and every twinge in my abdomen is doing nothing to convince me otherwise.
Oh, & I've just seen one magpie so now I'm definitely doomed!!! lol.
IamcalmIamcalmIamcalm.
Is it Wednesday yet?

Good luck to all you ladies .I hope you all get pregnant and have lovely babies!. When DP and I got together we both had grown up families and accepted we would never have a child of our own. We were totally shocked when I found out I was pregnant. Maybe it happened because we were not thinking about it and just enjoying practising! Good luck Tadpole and congratulations Willitbe. My friend of 42 is trying so will tell her to get on here!

I'm 41, and will begin TTC #4 this month.
My youngest child is two.
May I join your club? :)

hi greenlizard I had a look at your chart. Without any of the other information, I would have taken a guess at O on CD 16/17 with the sudden increase in temp on CD17 and continuing after that; and then on CD25 would have expected AF to appear. This doesn't at all tie in with the other readings so I'm not sure how helpful that opinion is!

I definitely think you should keep the appt with NHS. Waiting times are so long you should stake your place in the queue; two opinions are always more valuable than one. And another way of looking at it is that you pay taxes - so effectively already have paid (sort of!) I think what I am saying is, please go to the clinic

Found you! A shiny new thread for new BFP's (that stick please!)

Congratulations to the recently pregnant jbrd and wilitbe – rooting for you both and have everything crossed. Continued good luck to those who are trundling through their pregnancies. Morien – I can't believe you are due. I await with bated breath for her arrival . How are you doing Mozz? You have had a rough old ride so far but it sounds so positive – hope you have a more relaxed pregnancy going forward.

Calibee – tell us about the job – sound great and perhaps just what you need to make you feel a bit more settled especially when DH is away and out of contact. My hat is off to you both – it must be hard to be separate but how lovely when he comes home Agree that it would be perfect for an immediate conception

hopeful glad you are still lurking! You don't have to give it all up over night – a slow approach might be what is best for you? Symptoms spotting is such a time consuming habit isn't it – I wish I could just spend the 2WW thing of other things and then POAS at the end (only once) and be done with it.

I am on my second cycle of since the MC and it has gone awry! I was hoping that that after having a natural MC it would see my cycles get back normal quite quickly. I ovulated day 20 after my MC but this month has been all over the place. I have had +ve OPK's since CD9! . I went on a trip to Mexico around CD23 so with the time difference my temps were up (along with my hopes of having ovulated) but crashed back down when I got back to the UK. Now FF thinks I ovulated CD29 but personally think that it is more likely to be CD31 (if at all). My ridiculous chart is here if anyone wants a look at it and offer opinion/advice .I had three days of -ve OPK's but today I got another strong positive -WTF!? . So I also did a HPT (thank god for IC!) and got a super faint line – my heart nearly stopped but on closer inspection look it looked like an evap line so did two more and they were obvious bfn .

I have been waiting for my test results from Professor Regans office before seeing her again. The scan showed nothing untoward that would affect my chances of MC – debate about my right ovary again. I also have an appointment with the NHS recurrent miscarriage clinic but am not sure if I should go there whilst seeing Prof. Regan? I don't want to use an appointment someone else could have but equally if I manage to get up the duff again I would like to be on their books for regular scans/care etc. What do you think?

I have the house to myself today and plan to do some cooking (chicken and leek pie for dinner tonight with a cherry crumble for desert) and just general pottering about. The weather outside is vile so I am happy to be inside nice and warm.

ps. Grizzer glad DD is feeling better and I hope AF stays away!

Thankyou so much notso and Irish and Grizzer . AF arrived just a couple of hours after the temp drop reading. Grizzer you're right, the tease makes it so much harder to bear.

hopeful i would say it was REALLY difficult to stop thinking about it, even if you gave up sex at O time I'm sure there would still be all sorts of twinges and niggles that would appear as symptoms to worry about!!

Decided my 'thing to try' this month will be a switch to organic milk. Will continue with my vit B6, C & E and folic acid. I just read that dark chocolate was good for TTC and I don't have any objections to trying that either! My luteal phase was only 9 days this month . Has anyone tried Wild Yam? I thought I might try this or eventually get myself some Agnus Castus. You can tell, I'm panicking again... It's my "1 year TTC" anniversary. Not something to celebrate.

Oh hopeful!!! Me knew youse was lurking! But thank you so much for posting! And those symptoms. I hate most that after my mc I now have pg symptoms every month. Minus the sore boobs. So when that happens, I'll probably go madder than usual!

Thanks Irish I love the prospect of knowing I don't have to give up soon but on the other hand, this whole ttc thing has taken over my life! At least we went ahead and got the house. Now I'm torn about looking for a new job because I wouldn't want to lose out on maternity leave and pay! Which over here is 12 months!

Grizzer fingers crossed. If I ovulated on Wednesday, as I thought due to the symptoms, I'm now officially in the 2ww. And you know what that means!

Morien BABY! BABY! BABY! OMG! This is crazy exciting!

Happy Sunday!

Ah hopeful we are all the same. I've had early AF cramps which seem to have stopped today. I have told myself not to think about it because I have had exactly the same thing for the last few months. cramps + no cramps = AF but still I think 'ooh no cramps, AF isn't coming!' It's our natural hopefulness that makes all of us feel hopeless when AF shows her ugly face!!
Your symptoms sound positive so don't give up hope.
I always find the first week of the tww goes really quickly & the 2nd one takes a life time.
cali congrats on the job. That definitely means you'll get pg soon!!
Jolly sorry you think you're out too. It's so much worse when we get a little sign to tease us.
So good to read about the pregnancies though, it gives us all hope. morien looking forward to hearing your news very soon.

Well, I'm spending the day snuggled up on the sofa with dd who has thrown up all her breakfast this morning! She seems to have made a complete recovery but we're enjoying watching DVDs & doing nothing while the wind howls around us.
Happy Sunday everyone xx

shhh....still lurking in the shadows! Hanging around in case Morien's wee babe surfaces soon (very excited! can't wait!)

I don't know why my mumsnet name is "hopefulgum, it should be hopelesscasegum* because I am in 2ww again (9dpo) and experience bloody symptoms! I have tried my darndest to fight off any niggling suspicions but it just isn't working.

I've had the damned things month after month, so I should know better, however this time, I haven't had sore breasts from ovulation onwards (which I always do). This time tender boobs didn't surface til 7 dpo. I have also had a funny taste in my mouth in the late afternoon which leads to nausea unless I eat (so, so reminiscent of when I was preg). Also two nights in a row I have super vivid dreams about a baby.

I think if I am going to give up ttc I will have to give up sex around ovulation time because I still symptom spot and wonder.

Like I said...hopeless case

Cali, would love to hear more about your job.

irish, so pleased all is well!

Slinking back to the shadows.....

pregnant are (at least, add where i miss some):

Morien (40weeks)
Irish (29 weeks)
Mozarella (24?)
Willitbe (about 10?)
JBrd (6 weeks)

Please add the others, if we have some

Good morning !
notsoold hope you're managing to get some sleep,good to hear that J is doing well.
willitbe how are you feeling? I had another scan at hospital last week,I'm being monitored quite closely due to my "advanced maternal age"!!! All looked normal for 29 weeks and LO is growing well. I've been given an appointment to come in for induction on my due date, it makes it all seem very real. (I'll be 46 by then too!)
Morien due today!! I hope everything goes well for you,we will be waiting for your announcement! x
JBrd how are things with you?
Jolly and Grizzer sorry you feel it's not your month.
Tadpole ,for more inspiration, my cousin and his wife have just announced they're expecting, both mid forties,natural conception!
Hi Diege, Jass, gum (if you're lurking!) and everyone else