Eggcellent egg buddies - a thread for all those IVFing in January, February and March - Volume 2

Cwtch congratulations on those two pink lines! I really hope you are enjoying these first days of early pregnancy!

Thanks Shellster and Brooker. Am looking after my DS all week this week because it's half term so will be fairly busy. You are right in that the worry never stops! I feel so lucky to be in this position right now, but having lost my last 3 pregnancies, it's constantly on my mind. You are so right though Brooker that I'm now very grateful not to have my dodgy tubes complicating things.

Sorry that I can't answer your questions Shellster- re. whether IVF can go ahead without ovulation. Am sure somebody will be along soon who can help you out though.

Am so tired I could crawl back into bed right now!

Thanks Shellster and Brooker. Am looking after my DS all week this week because it's half term so will be fairly busy. You are right in that the worry never stops! I feel so lucky to be in this position right now, but having lost my last 3 pregnancies, it's constantly on my mind. You are so right though Brooker that I'm now ver

wish thinking of you today. Hope your cycle can continue.
bad the worry never ends does it? This is a different pregancy though & there can't be any issues with tubes. What have you got on to distract you over the next couple of weeks'?
Welcome shellster

Thanks so much for the welcome Badhariday. Feeling very stressed today because I am meant to start IVF next cycle but after suddenly not ovulating last cycle, seems the same thing has happened this cycle. Can I go ahead with IVF anyway? I worry that my body hasn't gone through the normal process of ovulating and then recruiting antral follicles for the next cycle. Imagine you are feeling very stressed too at the moment if this is the week where things went wrong the last two times. Two weeks and one day must feel forever away.

Hi Shellster - welcome and good luck.

One - I am really sorry this didn't work out for you, but again, I would say 'don't lose hope'. I felt like you last year when I just kept losing my pregnancies and my fertility through the ectopics. When the doctors told me I was first 'sub fertile', then 'infertile', it broke my heart. Lots of people told me 'I should be grateful' for my DS and hinted I should give up. Remember that IVF rarely works first time and that you were on a much lower dose of drugs than some of us.
Donor eggs are definitely a good option and it's quite cheap (about 5k a cycle) if you go abroad. Why don't you wait and see what is said in your review? I would think that the doctors suggest another cycle with a higher Stims dose. But you must give yourself some time to get mentally strong first!

Twinks - wow 15 weeks! Hello to everybody else.

I feel a bit grumpy today. I wish my DP would step up a bit and help me out more with DS. I've been up feeling rotten since 5.45am watching C Beebies when I feel absolutely exhausted. I am hopefully 6 weeks today and feel a bit apprehensive. Lost my last two pregnancies at 6.5 weeks. I feel like too many people know about my BFP tis time in RL and that it's tempting fate. 2 weeks and 1 day to go until the heartbeat scan...

Congratulations cwtch! The first ever experience of two lines must be amazing. Enjoy every second of it. x

One, I may not have got a BFN but I didn't get a BFP from this cycle either

Hi One, I'm new to this thread but I saw you posting over on the infertility board and know of your recent failed IVF. I started an IVF thread and like you, I was the only one to get a BFN of all us women that cycled at the same time, which really makes you feel like it is never going to happen for you. That was my third failed IVF (plus one cancelled cycle)

Maybe it is just me living in denial, but I just can't give up. Can I ask where you heard that the sperm kicks in at day 3 of embryos life? I have never heard that and wonder if this is true? From my research, once the sperm fertilizes the egg, then the egg provides the energy from it's mitochondria to continue developing. I have been taking supplements since my first failed IVF and have seen improvement in quality over the three cycles which gives me hope to continue on.

Am happy to share more info but will let you decide what you want to do and talk to me more if you want rather than posting a novel here. Don't want to sound like I am pushing you and giving you false hope if this isn't what you want. I just know the pain all too well and want to see and end to it for both of us!

One, you're not the only one

Sending you a big hug, one.

Patches and bum bullets gave been taken now.

Cwtch! That's brilliant news. My embie was a day 3 slowie too.

Turq my parents tried for 8 years after me, and had 3 miscarriages (including one set of twins) in that time. No explanation was found. The last mc made my mum very ill (infection and very high fever) so they were recommended to give up. They didn't want a big age gap anyway, as there is 10 years between my mum and her brother, and they never got on at all, so that influenced her thinking.

one I'm sorry you're feeling low. Maybe it is worth having an initial chat with the other clinic before you make any decisions? For the sake of an hour and a couple of hundred quid, it seems worthwhile.

Thanks twink, I'm glad it worked out for you x x

The thing is I've had this feeling since we started ttc, before we even knew there was a problem. I made dh go to the gp and lie and say we had been trying 12 months when actually it had been 2. I was so certain there would be a problem and sadly I was right.
It's not just that I could never see ivf working, I could never see any future babies of my own at all and it's such a feeling of absolute certainty I can't ignore it. I've had these feelings before about things (sadly not the lottery numbers though) and I have been right.

The hfea basically says you just get to try and match ethnicity, build, eye colour but that's about it.

I am certain we won't have a genetic child. Dh was talking about just using a sperm donor with my eggs as our main issue is mfi. He has a high count, average motility but very low normal forms. They said that although most of our eggs fertilised development slowed down at day 3 which is when the sperm kicks in. We used icsi but they said it was hard to find any sperm without weird heads and all the DNA is in the head so you're better to have tail deformities than head ones.
However I don't think I will carry my own child. I can't explain it, it's almost like a premonition. I think it's donor embryos or no baby.

Congrats cwtch.

One, you don't know me but I was an egg buddy last year and I've been lurking. I'm so sorry to read about your failed cycle. I remember how I felt when my first cycle failed, I was utterly, utterly devastated and had the strong feeling that it would never work for me. But I read a lot of stories online and realised a lot of women in that situation felt exactly the same. Maybe it's self preservation or maybe we've just had so many knocks that we can't believe it could happen. It's awful.

It ended up working for me and I'm now 15 weeks pregnant. I sincerely hope it (however you decide 'it' happens) works for you. I know it happened for me when I completely gave up hope and was going through the motions of my frozen cycle whilst preparing for a fresh cycle.

I just wanted to let you know that I understand.

Is anybody starting a FET soon? I have 9 cyclogest pessaries and 15 Everol patches. PM me if you want them or I'll chuck them.

:)

Congratulations cwtch! I'm simultaneous happy for you and sad that I'm the only bfn from the people that cycled at the same time as me.
It just seems an additional sign that this isn't going to ever happen for me. In fact I'm so certain that I have decided not to cycle again unless it is with donor embryos.

I have no idea how this works though - it looks like it is cheaper. Can this be true?! I'm going to phone the clinic tomorrow to discuss it, dh thinks we should have one last try first but I already know it won't work. I was reading that mn thread about people having feelings about things that became true. Lots of women were posting and saying they knew how many children they would have or that they were pregnant immediately or that they knew the pregnancy wouldn't be successful. I guess it's sort of like that for me, I'm so definite it's like it's already happened.
But donor embryos might be a way forwards. I know the baby wouldn't genetically be mine but I would have carried it. I don't think adoption is for us but this could be.

Congratulations cwtch!!! Must be so exciting to see two lines at last :-D

I have no idea what we'll do about sharing stuff on FB should we be lucky enough to have good news to share. I've been so hyper sensitive to announcements and scan photos I feel I've lost all perspective! DH and I have talked about whether we'll tell people about the IVF if it's successful, we definitely will with good friends and family. But I can't imagine sharing that kind of thing on FB. I guess by the time we want to talk about it on FB it'll probably be 20wks+ and maybe the ivf stuff will be receding from the front of our minds. Can but hope, anyway.

Morning, just de-lurking to say congrats to cwtch!

I am surprised how many people just don't talk about their struggles, maybe once the baby is here you don't care how they got here.

If this sticks then I will def talk about when I tell people, it might just bring hope to others struggling, does that make sense?

I am sure I posted on this thread yesterday but now can't find it anywhere! Just wanting to join you guys as a place to vent while I undergo my 4th IVF (plus one cancelled cycle). It's all getting a bit tedious and I can't talk to hubby because then he thinks I am just obsessed and this is the reason it isn't happening (despite his sperm being 100% abnormal!?). So would be nice to have a place to vent and get support.

Currently on CD13 and no sign of ovulation. Have taken drugs this cycle in prep for IVF next cycle but now worried it won't go ahead because this cycle is still abnormal and I have not recovered from last IVF. Desperate for a positive OPK soon.

I know Bugs. I wasn't on Facebook when I found out I was pregnant with our son but I've often thought what i would say if I'm lucky enough to ever get pregnant again.

I think I might just not mention it at all. I still have a friend who has been ttc for ten years and I would hate to hurt her. It must be awful for her, at least I have one. I think they have some adoption news though so hopefully all her dreams are about to come true.

Cwtch - that is brilliant news!! Congratulations! And well done for holding out until OTD. I failed miserably on that score!

Turquoise - I know what you mean about the Secondary Infertility. My best pal has been trying for her second for two years now after a miscarriage. I think she might now try IVF. I would recommend it for her now! She is 38 like me and has a four, nearly 5 year old.

AFM, I have no symptoms other than feeling ridiculously tired and eating like a horse. I keep worrying that I haven't yet gone off coffee but trying to remember that it's still such early days. I would actually like to feel a bit more sick for reassurance! Hope everybody is having good Sundays. It's half term for me - hooray! - so am hoping to spend lots of quality time with my DS. The sun is shining in London today so need to get moving and make the most of it!

It's actually amazing how common secondary infertility is. Out of 27 people who I work with, 11 have only one child. Talking to them over the years, at least 8 of those would have liked more but it never happened and ivf wasn't as common in those days. They felt they were lucky to have one so that was their lot so to speak.